There’s this boxing/MMA gym that is charging 250 a month to join. The headman seems to know his stance and says that Military, PMCs, and former champion formers train their. I would love to join, but 250 A MONTH!!..that’s rent in some places. I’m thinking of haggling with him to drop it down. You guys think he’s full of shit?
for 250/month, I better be training with Fedor, Anderson Silva, or GSP.
My brother is currently at BJ’s academy and BJ actually comes to teach once in awhile and works out with them. In addition there are a few guys who fight locally that train with him. He pays a hundred a month for that.
If the guy’s name is Greg Jackson, Pat Militech, Randy Couture (though I do know that they don’t even charge that much at his gym) Rob Kaman, Mark Deligrotti, or so on then maybe. But the short answer without having any knowledge of this gyms background, in my opinion, would be no. Do they have a website?
I’ve seen rates rising steadily for BJJ and MMA gyms, paralleling the rise in popularity of the sport, which is making it a little ridiculous in some cases. Frickin gis are getting more and more expensive as well.
thats like the price at fucking legends so im gonna go with no.
depends what you get
how many classes
how many classes YOU’LL go to
What you actually WANT to do
Who’s training you
Level of training partners
how much money you even want to spend
That’s way too much.
Only way that could be justified is if they had a full weight room and you had unlimited access to it. Even then it’d probably be too much money.
Guy is probably just trying to make a buck hoping people will sign up. I doubt he lasts very long at that price.
I was talking with a Puerto Rican guy at a terrible strip club in Paterson not too long ago, and he told me that Lou Costello’s (legendary boxing) gym cost $250 a month.
I couldn’t believe it, and thought he was bullshitting me, but he swore up and down that it was worth it.
I’m sure it is, but yes, that’s a tremendous amount of money.
I pay about $100 for my Gojuryu place, and a friend of mine who used to take MMA classes at a reputable place paid about $125. That’s as far as I would go.
In a word…Yes
I pay 80$ a month w/ access to a pretty weak gym(I’ve got a different gym I actually go to), I haven’t got the greatest training partners but the instruction is good, and I train with some of the teams in town occasionally.
Rickson’s in LA charges $200 for just BJJ - Rickson doesn’t even teach there. Jean Jacuqes Machado’s in Pasadena is about that.
In LA, most BJJ places charge at least $140 or so for just BJJ. Eddie Bravo’s is the “cheapest” at $105.
Of course, everything in L.A. is more expensive.
Pat Militech charges $105 a month for everything. But that’s in Bettendorf, Iowa.
Of course, if you’re a pro, you’ll pay a lot of training - 10% of purse in many cases. Team Quest (used to, anyway) takes 30% for management and training. American Top Team takes 20% for management and training. I’d be shocked of Xtreme Couture were taking anything less than 10% for just training, especially with Yoko Couture running shit.
Training is an expensive hobby for some. Until you talk to some golfers. Ask them about green fees and club memberships.
Talk to some guys who go out drinking. Ask what they spend on a Friday or Saturday night out.
You’ll realize that the cost of training might be worth it.
I intend to get a few fights in just to get it out of my system. After that, I’ll be back to my $40 a month gym membership.
But right now, I don’t trip over the fees. I’m far from made of money, but I’m a scrooge otherwise. It’ll even out in the end.
Hell, I’ll give you guys the website for the place and you can watch videos of the place. I really want to join, the gym is shared with a rock climbing building.
200 a month at millenia no contract (150 with a 1yr contract)… I could get it for 100 cause i went there b4 they moved to a new gym.
but thats for unlimited classes and unlimited gym access and the gym is a full gym, i mean kettlebells, rings, dumbbells, squat rack, like 20 thai bags, the whole shit. You wouldn’t need another gym membership and you can train anytime.
they have morning classes, afternoon classes, evening classes.
Gi, No gi, Muay thai, wrestling, boxing. MMA sparring. And you’re training with some top notch guys.
Don’t train in LA that shit is ridiculous. LOL. i trained at chute boxe la when it existed and got a deal just cause the coach liked me, but i also gave them ALL my wins from an MMA fight. Eddie Bravo’s is “cheap” but that is JUST jiujitsu, if you want to train everything at legends its like 300-400 a month or some outrageous shit.
If you really think about what CA-Law said is right. I honestly can say I never thought of it that way.
Training until you are sponsored and fighting as a pro is nothing more than a hobby. You may have professional aspirations but thats what it is.
And frankly, other hobbies from golf, to bodybuilding, to drinking, to smoking weed… Are all more expensive than 250/ month. So relatively its pretty cheap.
You may have upfront fees such as, headgear, shin guard, gloves, maybe shorts, and some underarmor. But that shit (if you buy high quality shit) can last you fuck…2-3years. If not the rest of your life lol. You can always go super expensive but determine what you REALLY need and just get that intially then save up for the rest. Maybe skip a month or two of supplements.
if fighting is that important to you the price shouldn’t even matter.
What you want to do is make sure you’re getting some high quality instruction and its a place that produces high quality fighters.
back in the day if you went to train at the militech camp you knew you had a high chance of coming out a champ. When you’re surrounded by champions thats what you aspire to because thats the standard you set for yourself.
so imo find the BEST place to train, not just the cheapest.
No offense to them, but if you’re looking to do MMA that does not appear like the place to train. The MT looks mediocre, the boxing didn’t seem impressive, but of course that doesn’t say anything about the coaching which could be top notch.
Imo, ask them if you can just take a month. See how you like it, and if its not worth it then fuck 'em and take it as a lesson learned and skate.
and thats my opinion.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
especially with Yoko Couture running shit.
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Hahahahaha
Agree with the rest of the post, I figure 80 a month is 20 a week. That’s not hard to come up with. I train there for about 10 hours of actual instruction a week(the rest is my own time) so I’m basically paying 2$ an hour.
Or if you don’t want to follow my math, Training is not that expensive.
250/30 days = pretty cheap
For that quality of facility I would say a big resounding NO. It does not look like very hi-Qual training and not very professional either if the guy has a myspace page that is barely put together. I think he is just trying to fleece some cash.
You’re in north carolina? There has to be something better at a decent price. It is true that if you love it then price shouldn’t be an issue but you should not also be paying through the anus to train with some guy that no one knows whos buddy was a PMC and whos student won a regional “championship” in TKD or something. No one is going to charge 250 and say that nobody cool ever came from there. They’ll just make it up.
Maybe this MPIRE boxing club is of the same quality but at a better price.
If it’s in a good location it might be better to learn your basics there for $50 as opposed to learning the same thing for 250. Look around a price compare. the "angels gym sounds like BS to me and doesn’t represent itself well enough to be worth 250.
Also, look around at local uni’s and colleges to see if you can train with the wrestling team just for fun. I bet the price would range from free to cheap for you to just work in and learn.I know the wrestling team here always wants people to just come and train with them for the extra training partners. then if you show promise they might want you to compete for the uni and pay you.
Look around and don’t drink any hard core kool-aid. People that insist that their training space is hella bad ass usually are incorrect. People who just say “try it for yourself” have training spaces that speak for themselves.
-chris
I have been looking as well, and the cheapest, but perhaps not the best around the Chicago suburbs is Top Notch Fitness in Elmhurst, its about 800 a year, not in monthly payments but either up front or 2 instalments, which isn’t too bad. I also went to a gym where I was told 150 a month, I asked the guy if the weight room was open 24/7, of course, it wasn’t. I just can’t understand paying that much.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
There’s this boxing/MMA gym that is charging 250 a month to join. The headman seems to know his stance and says that Military, PMCs, and former champion formers train their. I would love to join, but 250 A MONTH!!..that’s rent in some places. I’m thinking of haggling with him to drop it down. You guys think he’s full of shit?[/quote]
RIP-OFF. Rickson Gracie charges less, for crying out loud. He sounds like a scamming douche who doesn’t care at all about his students. Here’s the fee schedule for MTA (Muay Thai Academy) in Los Angeles. Less than half that price:
i pay 50$ a month and have the chance to go to 2 hours of training 6 nights a week. we have a decent place, mats and muay thai bags, and a small team of 14- 20 people that come in and out. it works for me, at the pricew youve listed im sure your training facility is AMAZING, just make sure your getting good instructors and enough one on one time.
[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
No offense to them, but if you’re looking to do MMA that does not appear like the place to train. The MT looks mediocre, the boxing didn’t seem impressive, but of course that doesn’t say anything about the coaching which could be top notch.
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I concur. For 250$ I would expect an instructor with either an amazing record or students with impressive records. Him telling you he has produced champions is not enough, you should be able to independently confirm this. I trained with Jake Shields at Fairtex for a year (130$ which was expensive for SF), and you could easily google his name and see what he has accomplished. Simple research on any of the instructors there would lead you to their record and records of students they trained.
A place like Renzos in NY is 250$ which is CRAZY. But you have a long list of students coming out of that gym and their accomplishments. Is it worth 250 to train there? Depends on your resources, but you can at least see it is a quality school if overpriced.
For 250$, we should be able to easily find the instructors pedigree and his students accomplishments. Can you do that?
[quote]Avocado wrote:
For that quality of facility I would say a big resounding NO. It does not look like very hi-Qual training and not very professional either if the guy has a myspace page that is barely put together. I think he is just trying to fleece some cash.
You’re in north carolina? There has to be something better at a decent price. It is true that if you love it then price shouldn’t be an issue but you should not also be paying through the anus to train with some guy that no one knows whos buddy was a PMC and whos student won a regional “championship” in TKD or something. No one is going to charge 250 and say that nobody cool ever came from there. They’ll just make it up.
Maybe this MPIRE boxing club is of the same quality but at a better price.
If it’s in a good location it might be better to learn your basics there for $50 as opposed to learning the same thing for 250. Look around a price compare. the "angels gym sounds like BS to me and doesn’t represent itself well enough to be worth 250.
Also, look around at local uni’s and colleges to see if you can train with the wrestling team just for fun. I bet the price would range from free to cheap for you to just work in and learn.I know the wrestling team here always wants people to just come and train with them for the extra training partners. then if you show promise they might want you to compete for the uni and pay you.
Look around and don’t drink any hard core kool-aid. People that insist that their training space is hella bad ass usually are incorrect. People who just say “try it for yourself” have training spaces that speak for themselves.
-chris[/quote]
LOL that’s exactly the first boxing gym I went to. I didn’t go because I had to deal with work and class. That’s where I plan on training in June though. I’ve been inside that building. There’s a McDonalds up the street too.
I’m not advertising McDonalds, I just found it funny that Avocado found this gym in my state and he live in Cananda.
Thanks for the replies. And if anyone trains in Fayetteville, NC. Let me know.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Pat Militech charges $105 a month for everything. But that’s in Bettendorf, Iowa.[/quote]
I’m at a MFS gym in St.Louis and it’s about $130 for everything so that sounds about right. Matt Hughes just opened a gym not too far from me and even they are less than that, AND they have a full weight facility included, not to mention one of the nicest training facilities in the country.
I dunno if I can think of any serious martial artists I know who have the kind of day job income to pay that. If people can afford $250 a month to box, I’m curious as to what kind of crowd you’ll find. It might be like joining Bally’s.
^Dude matt hughes’ gym is SICK
Most boxing gyms are in the ghetto (the good ones at least) so I’m surprised they cost that much.
But I’m sure you can still find some for cheap if you’re by a city that has a hood around.