23yrs, 1st Cycle RECOMM

Hello everyone on T-Nation

H: 172cm BW: 70.5kg BF% 13-15

I’ve decided to make the big leap to taking my first cycle and I truly want the best advice, precautions, and good practice to keep so I am not running myself into a wall. My credentials of having 6 years of training under my belt, been training 1-2RIR every set, Upper3x and Lower2x, track calories thru my fitness pal, 3000-3500 cals a day, 200-250g of protein.here’s what I’ve been researching to do:

PLAN A: WK1-10 Test E 500mg a week (Mon-Thurs)

16 weeks12.5mg of aromasin EOD

PCT if needed as well but will have on hand. Heard running Clomid 50mg for Weeks13-14 then 25mg WK15-16 is good

Plan B: Wk1-8 Test Prop

(TEMPTING but not necessary) Plan C:

Test E 250/300mg per week 8-10 weeks along with Mast or proviron

Anavar only on training days (5)

(need guidance on this specific cycle for future )

I’m also wanting to use Glutathione for liver support milk thistle and if anyone could help me and if i’ve missed anything else it would be extremely helpful. thank you so much in advance to future help and advice. looking forward hearing back from the experts and all

What is your end goal? Do you plan on competing at any point?

Yeah I’m planning to at one point. But want to be able to get back to having kids at some stage

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So you’ve stared another thread and didn’t even respond to the first one??
Your too young dude. Your not fully developed. Train hard and get more food in for the next few years and then think about gear.

yeah i wasn’t able to delete or know how to move my post to this forum category.

i understand your piece of advice and take it wholeheartedly. but im also very keen to start this journey now rather than later. so if you could provide me your 0.02c would be appreciated.

I did provide my 2c. At your age you should not be messing with your hormones. It is something that may follow you the rest of your life.

That being said, if your going to proceed your first cycle would be test only to see how your body reacts.
You plan A is what you should be doing. On the aromasin, I would start at 3x per week and see where you are after 6 weeks with bloods.
For PCT you will wait 3 weeks after your last shot before starting.
This is what ot it should look like.
50/50/25/25/12.5/12.5 This is daily dosing per week for 6 weeks.

Please start training log in the training logs section so we can follow progress and you can ask there is you need help. Tag me @s.gentz. That way all info will be in one thread.
Here is a link to my log if you want to use it as a template. I just came off a build period and now sitting at maintenance for a bit to solidify progress before dieting down a bit.

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Your pics are interesting. From the back pose your rear delts have phenomenal development for the number of years training and no AAS. Your arm growth is nice.

The torso of your front poses and the torso of your back pose look like they are two completely different people.

It would have been nice to see your thigh and leg development

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Get blood tests done before you start. I started at your age and have never used an AI, 500mg test e was my first cycle. My estrogen was really high when tested but I didn’t have any noticable symptoms, I ran nolva eod I believe to prevent gyno. you can probably find my thread if you click on my name.

I don’t think liver support is such a big deal if you’re only running test personally, the money used on those supplements will be better spent getting bloods done.

I think you are starting from a good place but try to make sure you’re training your legs consistently and do not neglect them if you start your cycle.

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thank you thank you thank you for the information. i’ll be getting my bloods done next week and will post on here where im at

i’ll take you up on doing my plan A

for training logs i’ll post regularly as well

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Yeah my chest has been a weakpoint idk if it’s my technique or most likely my genetics. i’ll try prioritise chest and legs for this cycle