2014 NFL Thread III

mbdix · January 24, 2015, 5:05pm

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

FUCK JOHN FOOTBALL

GET THE FUCK OUT OF CLEVELAND YOU SCUMBAG PIECE OF SHIT. [/quote]
lol shocking.
Sorry man, I really do feel for you. This could have been my Boys dealing with this little twat. [/quote]

That’s the future MVP you’re talking about, lol…[/quote]
That kid is not even smart enough to go into announcing when he busts.

He is destined for a trailer park with a local bar slut raising white trash kids. [/quote]

HaHa. He won and brought the Heisman to A&M. He has multiple 6 figure job opportunities right now.

Let’s say TMZ gets photos of Manziel doing blow off of a hookers ass while jerking off onto a picture of Roger Goodell. Some booster from A&M will buy Manziel a chain of trailer parks that would earn him 6 figures a year.

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I think you forget the attention span of the public.

Where is Tebow? Favre?

They don’t do has been so, unless the E wants to a thing about him fucking Honey BoBo’s mom. [/quote]

Tebow is an SEC network analyst for ESPN.
Favre is coaching High School ball, after a Hall of Fame career, where he doesn’t need any money, and he never won a Heisman.

No, I am not including the attention span of the public at all. The attention span of the public plays in Manziel’s favor, in this make believe scenario where he fails in the NFL and has some tragic story attached. It isn’t going to happen.

When you win and bring a Heisman trophy to your University you’re set up for success for the rest of your life. Especially a school like A&M that had one prior Heisman in the mid 50’s. Boosters will bend over backwards to help a Heisman trophy winner who needs it. In a more likely scenario were Manziel fails and is not picked up by a network, he will have a business set up for him in College Station. He not only brought a Heisman to A&M he put them on the map in the SEC. He is set up for life even without NFL success. If you aren’t aware of how things work, I understand.

He is a rock star. He likes to party (probably owns a tuxedo t-shirt). He will be a rock star in the NFL. If the Browns cut him, they will be making a mistake as big as the team who passed on Michael Jordan. They can’t even trade Manziel without looking like fools, because with how ignorant that franchise is about all of these reports coming out from team sources. All that is doing is driving down the trade value of their player.

Look at Hoyer’s stats from last season. He came out and played “Ok” football the first 3 weeks of the season. The bye week was week 4. He was thinking that week four comes around and Manziel would be getting the nod to start. He would have put up some stats that would give another team (that doesn’t have a clue) a reason to maybe sign him to help them at QB. It doesn’t happen. He stays the starter and his stats plummet. And the truth about Hoyer being a back up QB in this league comes to light.

I wonder what Manziel’s thought process was during this time? Yes, he is cocky. Yes, he made mistakes his rookie season. He will have some mistakes every year for his career. But, he will be making highlight plays that will be on the ESPN top ten and the NFL will be buzzing about Manziel. And when he takes his team into important games, he will raise his game to a whole other level. All he has to do is whether this storm, put in work now that he has had his first year fun where he was not expecting to get playing time, and light this mother fucking league on fire next year.

bdocksaints75 · January 24, 2015, 5:06pm

I heard Tom Brady is being sent to Gitmo to get water boarded for answers

Aggv · January 24, 2015, 5:12pm

[quote]mbdix wrote:
He is a rock star. He likes to party (probably owns a tuxedo t-shirt). He will be a rock star in the NFL. If the Browns cut him, they will be making a mistake as big as the team who passed on Michael Jordan. They can’t even trade Manziel without looking like fools, because with how ignorant that franchise is about all of these reports coming out from team sources. All that is doing is driving down the trade value of their player. [/quote]

I figured out what happens when you overdose on weed edibles. ^^ My god man, put the kool-aid down.

I get that he brought some notoriety and money to an otherwise sorry ass school, but did you watch him play? He has no business on an NFL field unless it’s the second half of a preseason game. Connor freakin Shaw outplayed him against a ravens defense that had something to play for.

red04 · January 24, 2015, 8:50pm

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
He is a rock star. He likes to party (probably owns a tuxedo t-shirt). He will be a rock star in the NFL. If the Browns cut him, they will be making a mistake as big as the team who passed on Michael Jordan. They can’t even trade Manziel without looking like fools, because with how ignorant that franchise is about all of these reports coming out from team sources. All that is doing is driving down the trade value of their player. [/quote]

I figured out what happens when you overdose on weed edibles. ^^ My god man, put the kool-aid down.

I get that he brought some notoriety and money to an otherwise sorry ass school, but did you watch him play? He has no business on an NFL field unless it’s the second half of a preseason game. Connor freakin Shaw outplayed him against a ravens defense that had something to play for. [/quote]

I don’t really give a fuck either way, but Manziel’s playtime came against Buffalo, Carolina(2 of the top 3 defenses in the league) and Cincinnati(a better pass defense than the Ravens). All 3 of those teams were indeed in the hunt for playoff spots at those times.

If you’re going to play a card like ‘BUT LYKE THE RAVENS DEFENSE HAD SOMETHING TO PLAY FOR AND CONNOR SHAW WAS A QUARTERBACKZ’ at least make sure it holds up.

Dude played for like 7 quarters and looked like garbage. There are people in the ESPN article ripping him, but also people still supporting him, even players in his own lockerroom(GASP!!).

punnyguy · January 24, 2015, 9:07pm

All the top QBs in the NFL have one common trait -they are obsessively, compulsively dedicated to improving their craft. Forget the arguments about skills, Manziel 100% does not have that ^^^^^. It’s mind-boggling to me that people still think he can be an impact QB in the league.

Economically? Manziel will be fine, and it has nothing to do with the six figures he can make from whatever, the kid probably spends more than that in a month, if not a week lol of partying. Summertime…the living’s easy…Daddy’s rich, and his ma’s good lookin’…he ain’t gonna be cryin’…

mbdix · January 25, 2015, 1:44pm

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
He is a rock star. He likes to party (probably owns a tuxedo t-shirt). He will be a rock star in the NFL. If the Browns cut him, they will be making a mistake as big as the team who passed on Michael Jordan. They can’t even trade Manziel without looking like fools, because with how ignorant that franchise is about all of these reports coming out from team sources. All that is doing is driving down the trade value of their player. [/quote]

I figured out what happens when you overdose on weed edibles. ^^ My god man, put the kool-aid down.

I get that he brought some notoriety and money to an otherwise sorry ass school, but did you watch him play? He has no business on an NFL field unless it’s the second half of a preseason game. Connor freakin Shaw outplayed him against a ravens defense that had something to play for. [/quote]

I don’t really give a fuck either way, but Manziel’s playtime came against Buffalo, Carolina(2 of the top 3 defenses in the league) and Cincinnati(a better pass defense than the Ravens). All 3 of those teams were indeed in the hunt for playoff spots at those times.

If you’re going to play a card like ‘BUT LYKE THE RAVENS DEFENSE HAD SOMETHING TO PLAY FOR AND CONNOR SHAW WAS A QUARTERBACKZ’ at least make sure it holds up.

Dude played for like 7 quarters and looked like garbage. There are people in the ESPN article ripping him, but also people still supporting him, even players in his own lockerroom(GASP!!).[/quote]

This post was refreshing to see

Aggv · January 25, 2015, 4:02pm

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
He is a rock star. He likes to party (probably owns a tuxedo t-shirt). He will be a rock star in the NFL. If the Browns cut him, they will be making a mistake as big as the team who passed on Michael Jordan. They can’t even trade Manziel without looking like fools, because with how ignorant that franchise is about all of these reports coming out from team sources. All that is doing is driving down the trade value of their player. [/quote]

I figured out what happens when you overdose on weed edibles. ^^ My god man, put the kool-aid down.

I get that he brought some notoriety and money to an otherwise sorry ass school, but did you watch him play? He has no business on an NFL field unless it’s the second half of a preseason game. Connor freakin Shaw outplayed him against a ravens defense that had something to play for. [/quote]

I don’t really give a fuck either way, but Manziel’s playtime came against Buffalo, Carolina(2 of the top 3 defenses in the league) and Cincinnati(a better pass defense than the Ravens). All 3 of those teams were indeed in the hunt for playoff spots at those times.

If you’re going to play a card like ‘BUT LYKE THE RAVENS DEFENSE HAD SOMETHING TO PLAY FOR AND CONNOR SHAW WAS A QUARTERBACKZ’ at least make sure it holds up.

Dude played for like 7 quarters and looked like garbage. There are people in the ESPN article ripping him, but also people still supporting him, even players in his own lockerroom(GASP!!).[/quote]

Did you watch him play? Was there anything he did which resembled an NFL qb? I saw an undersized, weak armed, unprepared, college qb get his lunch served to him. He got hurt from someone falling on him, not a big hit, just an nfl linebacker landed on him, and he’s out the game.

With the amount of hype, you would think he would be ready to start against a divisional opponent in a playoff race. This is the epitome of someone not getting it. Considering he’s a spoiled rich kid, there very little chance he ever will.

Keep drinking that koolaid, maybe in a year john football can sell you a used car back in texas somewhere, just dont let him sucker you into the extended warranty and rust protection.

mbdix · January 25, 2015, 4:25pm

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
He is a rock star. He likes to party (probably owns a tuxedo t-shirt). He will be a rock star in the NFL. If the Browns cut him, they will be making a mistake as big as the team who passed on Michael Jordan. They can’t even trade Manziel without looking like fools, because with how ignorant that franchise is about all of these reports coming out from team sources. All that is doing is driving down the trade value of their player. [/quote]

I figured out what happens when you overdose on weed edibles. ^^ My god man, put the kool-aid down.

I get that he brought some notoriety and money to an otherwise sorry ass school, but did you watch him play? He has no business on an NFL field unless it’s the second half of a preseason game. Connor freakin Shaw outplayed him against a ravens defense that had something to play for. [/quote]

I don’t really give a fuck either way, but Manziel’s playtime came against Buffalo, Carolina(2 of the top 3 defenses in the league) and Cincinnati(a better pass defense than the Ravens). All 3 of those teams were indeed in the hunt for playoff spots at those times.

If you’re going to play a card like ‘BUT LYKE THE RAVENS DEFENSE HAD SOMETHING TO PLAY FOR AND CONNOR SHAW WAS A QUARTERBACKZ’ at least make sure it holds up.

Dude played for like 7 quarters and looked like garbage. There are people in the ESPN article ripping him, but also people still supporting him, even players in his own lockerroom(GASP!!).[/quote]

“With the amount of hype, you would think he would be ready to start against a divisional opponent in a playoff race.” < This is the epitome of someone not getting it. [/quote]

Not only a divisional opponent in a playoff race, but a rival, with a team that didn’t give him much help at all. Then Manziel handled that ass whooping as good as it gets in his press conference. I guarantee that he earned some respect from that from teammates who were sick of the shit surrounding him prior to it. I’m mainly talking about his line.

Aggv · January 25, 2015, 4:32pm

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Not only a divisional opponent in a playoff race, but a rival, with a team that didn’t give him much help at all. Then Manziel handled that ass whooping as good as it gets in his press conference. I guarantee that he earned some respect from that from teammates who were sick of the shit surrounding him prior to it. I’m mainly talking about his line.[/quote]

In all seriousness, I cant tell if you’re for real or just trolling. I hope trolling.

mbdix · January 25, 2015, 5:16pm

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Not only a divisional opponent in a playoff race, but a rival, with a team that didn’t give him much help at all. Then Manziel handled that ass whooping as good as it gets in his press conference. I guarantee that he earned some respect from that from teammates who were sick of the shit surrounding him prior to it. I’m mainly talking about his line.[/quote]

In all seriousness, I cant tell if you’re for real or just trolling. I hope trolling. [/quote]

I didn’t see his second start.

The first one against Cincy. I was watching and thinking to myself "people thought this team was turning a corner and a possible playoff team? The whole team looked flat. I got the impression that especially the line, who had been battling in the trenches all year, and hearing people talk about Manziel all year, were not to going to fight in that game. They were going through the motions at best.

People in here have talked about “these are professional football players, they would never give up or tank on purpose” That is wrong. They do it all the time. We “wish” that players were just “professional” and just went out and did their job to the best of their potential week in and week out. But, that is simply not the case.

They have the combine every year. During this combine they test players in areas that show if they have the physical tools to get the job done. Granted, you do have players that are “freaks” and are “elite” in the league, but almost every player drafted has the physical tools to get the job done or fill a role for the team that drafts them. So, if almost every player has the physical tools to accomplish their job what does that leave us as the deciding factor on success? I will leave that for you to answer.

The line. The lineman in the NFL go through so much shit that the average person doesn’t know about it can’t be explained. I know about some of it, but I am not an NFL lineman and never was so I don’t believe I have a right to talk about those things in detail. If lineman wanted it discussed it would be understood. At most you will here some lineman talk about things like “we really like ‘this line coach’ he was a player in this league recently and knows about what goes on in the modern game” < something like that.

So they are going through this and the whole time there is this rookie, making more money than some of them, able to just live it up week in and week out, and everyone is talking about him like he is going to save them. If that rookie isn’t apart the battles from the get go, and is brought in 3/4 into the season to “save” their season. Shit man, his first day is going to suck balls. Those lineman (most of them) are going to let him get “touched” by one of the guys they have to fight every week.

Now, after that first loss and ass kicking those lineman pay more attention to what their QB does than they do all season. If their is a lineman that is with that QB for the rest of their careers together he might not ever listen to another thing that QB says in a post game interview but he is paying attention to that first one. Manziel handled it perfectly. He earned at the very least a little respect from some of his teammates. They KNOW what happened in that first start, they were a part of it.

Aggv · January 25, 2015, 5:21pm

The kool aid is strong in texas

mbdix · January 25, 2015, 5:43pm

[quote]Aggv wrote:
The kool aid is strong in texas[/quote]

Taste better down here too, plus the women who serve it to you are way hotter as well.

on_edge · January 25, 2015, 6:10pm

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

FUCK JOHN FOOTBALL

GET THE FUCK OUT OF CLEVELAND YOU SCUMBAG PIECE OF SHIT. [/quote]

Never liked him. It was just a gut feeling. After reading that article it seems my gut ain’t all that inaccurate.[/quote]

I can’t begin to imagine why every single rookie QB doesn’t model their commitment and conduct after Brady, Breeze, Manning & Rogers. Wilson did and he’s probably going to win his second Super Bowl. If he doesn’t, Brady gets another.

Aside from Flacco and Roethlisberger are their any other SB winning quarterbacks in the league? I don’t know anything about Flacco’s work ethic or personal life but I wouldn’t be surprised if Roethlisberger is the only exception to the proven formula and I bet he gets it right on the commitment side.

To be sure, Manziel will never have success in the league. The Browns should either trade him if they can find some team foolish enough to give up any value or they should just cut him.

Dr_Pangloss · January 25, 2015, 9:34pm

Josh Gordon, one year suspension for booze.

red04 · January 25, 2015, 9:42pm