2014 NFL Thread III

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
He is a rock star. He likes to party (probably owns a tuxedo t-shirt). He will be a rock star in the NFL. If the Browns cut him, they will be making a mistake as big as the team who passed on Michael Jordan. They can’t even trade Manziel without looking like fools, because with how ignorant that franchise is about all of these reports coming out from team sources. All that is doing is driving down the trade value of their player. [/quote]

I figured out what happens when you overdose on weed edibles. ^^ My god man, put the kool-aid down.

I get that he brought some notoriety and money to an otherwise sorry ass school, but did you watch him play? He has no business on an NFL field unless it’s the second half of a preseason game. Connor freakin Shaw outplayed him against a ravens defense that had something to play for. [/quote]

I don’t really give a fuck either way, but Manziel’s playtime came against Buffalo, Carolina(2 of the top 3 defenses in the league) and Cincinnati(a better pass defense than the Ravens). All 3 of those teams were indeed in the hunt for playoff spots at those times.

If you’re going to play a card like ‘BUT LYKE THE RAVENS DEFENSE HAD SOMETHING TO PLAY FOR AND CONNOR SHAW WAS A QUARTERBACKZ’ at least make sure it holds up.

Dude played for like 7 quarters and looked like garbage. There are people in the ESPN article ripping him, but also people still supporting him, even players in his own lockerroom(GASP!!).[/quote]

Did you watch him play? Was there anything he did which resembled an NFL qb? I saw an undersized, weak armed, unprepared, college qb get his lunch served to him. He got hurt from someone falling on him, not a big hit, just an nfl linebacker landed on him, and he’s out the game.

With the amount of hype, you would think he would be ready to start against a divisional opponent in a playoff race. This is the epitome of someone not getting it. Considering he’s a spoiled rich kid, there very little chance he ever will.

Keep drinking that koolaid, maybe in a year john football can sell you a used car back in texas somewhere, just dont let him sucker you into the extended warranty and rust protection. [/quote]

I have no affiliation with Texas and didn’t like the Manziel draft pick, but your opinion of him is too far in the opposite direction for having seen 7 quarters of play. After 7 quarters of play Matt Flynn was the greatest QB of all time.

I’m not sure if Manziel will change his attitude which he obviously needs to to succeed, but some of his teammates still maintain some faith that he will because they recognize that he is at his core deeply competitive; maybe being ripped to shreds for what happened this season will wake that competitive spirit up and get him to work at an NFL level.[/quote]

My opinion of him comes from watching him play in college as well as the NFL. Dude never had a shot to be an NFL QB. He’s like a poor mans RGIII with less arm, less speed, and less talent. Without Mike Evans no one even knows who Johnny Manziel is because the only pass play they ran at A&M is Johnny doesn’t go through his reads, panics, runs around for a while, throws a jump ball and Mike comes down with it everybody say Johnny’s awesome. Nevermind, that 80% of their plays went to hell in a handbasket because of his own doing and dude got lucky. That should definitely work in the NFL.

And to my point about Connor Shaw, I don’t think he’s very good either. He just would be a place holder till you could get a real QB on the team. You have Hoyer who is a serviceable backup but that’s your only real QB. Maybe Jerry Jones would give you something for Manziel. You talked him in to taking Weeden off your hands so maybe you could unload one more cancerous hunk of dead weight.

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

FUCK JOHN FOOTBALL

GET THE FUCK OUT OF CLEVELAND YOU SCUMBAG PIECE OF SHIT. [/quote]
lol shocking.
Sorry man, I really do feel for you. This could have been my Boys dealing with this little twat. [/quote]

That’s the future MVP you’re talking about, lol…[/quote]
That kid is not even smart enough to go into announcing when he busts.

He is destined for a trailer park with a local bar slut raising white trash kids. [/quote]

HaHa. He won and brought the Heisman to A&M. He has multiple 6 figure job opportunities right now.

Let’s say TMZ gets photos of Manziel doing blow off of a hookers ass while jerking off onto a picture of Roger Goodell. Some booster from A&M will buy Manziel a chain of trailer parks that would earn him 6 figures a year.

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I think you forget the attention span of the public.

Where is Tebow? Favre?

They don’t do has been so, unless the E wants to a thing about him fucking Honey BoBo’s mom. [/quote]

Words
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So far you have been totally wrong about Manziel.

So with that I will go ahead and have more faith in what I see happening.

I thought Johnny Manziel would end up being a bit of a Doug Flutie type, scrambling around making shit happen. But Flutie could still do the basics and rally the team.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

FUCK JOHN FOOTBALL

GET THE FUCK OUT OF CLEVELAND YOU SCUMBAG PIECE OF SHIT. [/quote]
lol shocking.
Sorry man, I really do feel for you. This could have been my Boys dealing with this little twat. [/quote]

That’s the future MVP you’re talking about, lol…[/quote]
That kid is not even smart enough to go into announcing when he busts.

He is destined for a trailer park with a local bar slut raising white trash kids. [/quote]

HaHa. He won and brought the Heisman to A&M. He has multiple 6 figure job opportunities right now.

Let’s say TMZ gets photos of Manziel doing blow off of a hookers ass while jerking off onto a picture of Roger Goodell. Some booster from A&M will buy Manziel a chain of trailer parks that would earn him 6 figures a year.

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I think you forget the attention span of the public.

Where is Tebow? Favre?

They don’t do has been so, unless the E wants to a thing about him fucking Honey BoBo’s mom. [/quote]

Words
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So far you have been totally wrong about Manziel.

So with that I will go ahead and have more faith in what I see happening. [/quote]

Yes, I was wrong about what I thought his rookie season would be like. And, I was surprised a little about the Cincy game. But, I still think he is going to light this league up.

Even if manziel had the mind of Peyton Manning instead of mike the situation from jersey shore, He would still be too small, too weak, and too slow to be anything other than a backup in the NFL.

Him and Josh Gordon can go back to whatever holes they crawled out of in texas.

[quote]Aggv wrote:
Even if manziel had the mind of Peyton Manning instead of mike the situation from jersey shore, He would still be too small, too weak, and too slow to be anything other than a backup in the NFL.

Him and Josh Gordon can go back to whatever holes they crawled out of in texas. [/quote]

I mean the Browns really have only themselves to blame for the Gordon thing. Although talented the College portion of his Wikipedia page reads:

"Gordon accepted an athletic scholarship to play football for Baylor University. However in October 2010, during his sophomore year, he and teammate Willie Jefferson were found asleep at a local Taco Bell. Police found marijuana in Jeffersonâ??s car. Jefferson, who was driving, was kicked off the team due to it being his second violation, but Gordon was only suspended.

In July 2011, Gordon was suspended indefinitely by head coach Art Briles, for later failing a drug test and testing positive for marijuana.

In August 2011, Gordon transferred to Utah, where he sat out the 2011 season declaring too late for the 2011 Supplemental Draft."

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I mean the Browns really have only themselves to blame
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Agree, but you would think when people have the chance to make millions of dollars they would get their shit together. Then again, never underestimate how stupid people truly can be.

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I mean the Browns really have only themselves to blame
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Agree, but you would think when people have the chance to make millions of dollars they would get their shit together. Then again, never underestimate how stupid people truly can be. [/quote]

I said this about Aaron Hernandez. You’d think with 40m you wouldn’t feel the need to shoot people anymore.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I mean the Browns really have only themselves to blame
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Agree, but you would think when people have the chance to make millions of dollars they would get their shit together. Then again, never underestimate how stupid people truly can be. [/quote]

I said this about Aaron Hernandez. You’d think with 40m you wouldn’t feel the need to shoot people anymore. [/quote]

thug life yo

Makes me proud.

Hmmmm…

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Hmmmm…

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Some people aren’t going to stop until the find something the pats are guilty of.

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Hmmmm…

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Some people aren’t going to stop until the find something the pats are guilty of.[/quote]

Or until the media has something else to latch onto.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Hmmmm…

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Some people aren’t going to stop until the find something the pats are guilty of.[/quote]

Or until the media has something else to latch onto. [/quote]

I think we will find out after the SB.

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Hmmmm…

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Some people aren’t going to stop until the find something the pats are guilty of.[/quote]

Or until the media has something else to latch onto. [/quote]

I think we will find out after the SB.
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I’m happy with the story dying until the Wells investigation is finished and a report released. I really didn’t think it would have this much legs with such a sexy Super Bowl matchup; I honestly thought it would’ve died out after a day or two to make way for actual discussion on the game. Instead, we’re getting tiny segments about Xs and Os, and 15 minute segments on Marshawn Lynch’s media interaction and more deflategate press.

Don’t think I’ve been more disappointed in the media coverage in a long time.

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Hmmmm…

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Some people aren’t going to stop until the find something the pats are guilty of.[/quote]

Or until the media has something else to latch onto. [/quote]

I think we will find out after the SB.
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I’m happy with the story dying until the Wells investigation is finished and a report released. I really didn’t think it would have this much legs with such a sexy Super Bowl matchup; I honestly thought it would’ve died out after a day or two to make way for actual discussion on the game. Instead, we’re getting tiny segments about Xs and Os, and 15 minute segments on Marshawn Lynch’s media interaction and more deflategate press.

Don’t think I’ve been more disappointed in the media coverage in a long time.[/quote]

Regardless of the outcome of the investigation, the Hawks deserve the opportunity to knock off Brady and Belichick. I’m just waiting for a good game. They can yack about the footballs all off season for all I care.

Beans I thought you might like this one:

ET3 a little salty about how ‘random’ testing the dude trying to play through a separated shoulder feels =p

[quote]red04 wrote:
Beans I thought you might like this one:

ET3 a little salty about how ‘random’ testing the dude trying to play through a separated shoulder feels =p[/quote]

Pat’s players were tested as well. Talk about a dude using the fucking race card.

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:
Beans I thought you might like this one:

ET3 a little salty about how ‘random’ testing the dude trying to play through a separated shoulder feels =p[/quote]

Pat’s players were tested as well. Talk about a dude using the fucking race card.
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Where did he say they only tested him because of his race?

[quote]red04 wrote:
Beans I thought you might like this one:

ET3 a little salty about how ‘random’ testing the dude trying to play through a separated shoulder feels =p[/quote]

They have by far the most PED busts in the last couple years. It’s the cheaterbowl, lol.

To be honest, I’m totally disenfranchised at this point. If the game was tonight I wouldn’t even watch.