[quote]mbdix wrote:
Yeah, he only made possibly the dumbest call in the history of sports. Seriously.
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I mean agree, but pissing away a first rounder on J Football?
That’s pretty egregious lol.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Yeah, he only made possibly the dumbest call in the history of sports. Seriously.
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I mean agree, but pissing away a first rounder on J Football?
That’s pretty egregious lol. [/quote]
Most posters in this thread know my thoughts on Johnny Football. But, lets say that he is a bust for the sake of arguments.
No way is pissing away a 1st rounder anywhere close to allowing the dumbest play call in the history of sports cost you the superbowl. It just doesn’t compare.
32 teams play and fight for the chance to get to the superbowl every year. Only 2 teams make it.
To be one of those 2 teams, and fight for 59 minutes and 30 seconds and be in a position to have 3 chances to win the biggest game of the year in professional sports.
Then to allow a play to be called and run that is idiotic is completely, 100% unacceptable.
Fucking Pete Carroll is funny as shit. Now every time I see him chewing away on his gum I am going to think that he might be part retard.
I thought Ryan Leaf was a bad 1st round pick, this is on par with that.
Ryan Leaf was the #2 overall. Johnny was #22. That is an immense difference(it doesn’t make it not a bad pick).
Again, Justin Gilbert is the happiest dude on the fucking planet that Manziel exists, and was drafted by the Browns after him.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Yeah, he only made possibly the dumbest call in the history of sports. Seriously.
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Probably deserves it’s own thread but as a Canadian, leaving Gretzky on the bench in Nagano in '98 Olympics is up there. As a Red Sox fan, GRADY LITTLE.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Yeah, he only made possibly the dumbest call in the history of sports. Seriously.
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I mean agree, but pissing away a first rounder on J Football?
That’s pretty egregious lol. [/quote]
Most posters in this thread know my thoughts on Johnny Football. But, lets say that he is a bust for the sake of arguments.
No way is pissing away a 1st rounder anywhere close to allowing the dumbest play call in the history of sports cost you the superbowl. It just doesn’t compare.
32 teams play and fight for the chance to get to the superbowl every year. Only 2 teams make it.
To be one of those 2 teams, and fight for 59 minutes and 30 seconds and be in a position to have 3 chances to win the biggest game of the year in professional sports.
Then to allow a play to be called and run that is idiotic is completely, 100% unacceptable.
Fucking Pete Carroll is funny as shit. Now every time I see him chewing away on his gum I am going to think that he might be part retard. [/quote]
Yea well I would say the Raiders would disagree with you on a 1st round bust.
Interesting stats:
[quote]red04 wrote:
Ryan Leaf was the #2 overall. Johnny was #22. That is an immense difference(it doesn’t make it not a bad pick).
Again, Justin Gilbert is the happiest dude on the fucking planet that Manziel exists, and was drafted by the Browns after him.[/quote]
Seriously, Justin Gilbert should be happy as hell he went to Browns with fuck up loser manziel.
It’s a bit of chicken or the egg. Can you get to fuck up the superbowl, if you fuck up your first round draft picks?
Browns could have drafted Russel Wilson over Weeden…
Browns could have drafted Odell Beckham, and teddy bridgewater over gilbert and that fucking loser manziel.
This last draft really fucked the Browns for the next decade.
They also could have traded knucklehead josh gordon for a second round pick.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
Interesting stats:
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[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]red04 wrote:
Ryan Leaf was the #2 overall. Johnny was #22. That is an immense difference(it doesn’t make it not a bad pick).
Again, Justin Gilbert is the happiest dude on the fucking planet that Manziel exists, and was drafted by the Browns after him.[/quote]
Seriously, Justin Gilbert should be happy as hell he went to Browns with fuck up loser manziel.
It’s a bit of chicken or the egg. Can you get to fuck up the superbowl, if you fuck up your first round draft picks?
Browns could have drafted Russel Wilson over Weeden…
Browns could have drafted Odell Beckham, and teddy bridgewater over gilbert and that fucking loser manziel.
This last draft really fucked the Browns for the next decade.
They also could have traded knucklehead josh gordon for a second round pick. [/quote]
The more shit falls apart up there the more I find myself routing for them to turn it around with a cast of mostly unknowns while cutting lose all the dead weight they have accumulated. Maybe I’ll be a Browns fan for a few years. Very reminiscent of my many years as a Saints fan.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
Interesting stats:
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All worthless, though. It removes the context of the situation.
This is ML. This is the Superbowl. This is against the Pats D who is notoriously bad in the red zone. You have plenty of time and a timeout.
When he called that a wasted play I almost went Herm Edwards on him…YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!
Terrible call. Just terrible.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
This is against the Pats D who is notoriously bad in the red zone. You [/quote]
Whoa there skippy. I know that is a typo and you mean “at stopping the run” not “in the red zone”.
11th in the league it’s notoriously bad, lol
Take that back lol, #3 in rushing TD’s…
I’m not even sure what your typo was now…
It didn’t like the call then; I don’t like the call now. I’m not convinced it was the worst call in the history of sports, however.
And I’m also not convinced it isn’t mostly on Bevell. Pete didn’t call an offensive play all year so I doubt he called this one.
Fuck, I’m still trying to process this disaster.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
It didn’t like the call then; I don’t like the call now. I’m not convinced it was the worst call in the history of sports, however.
And I’m also not convinced it isn’t mostly on Bevell. Pete didn’t call an offensive play all year so I doubt he called this one.
Fuck, I’m still trying to process this disaster. [/quote]
Watching it again, Lockette has a lot of fault here. He slowed up to hand catch it, where as if he had run through he would have caught it on the numbers, blocking Butler out.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
It didn’t like the call then; I don’t like the call now. I’m not convinced it was the worst call in the history of sports, however.
And I’m also not convinced it isn’t mostly on Bevell. Pete didn’t call an offensive play all year so I doubt he called this one.
Fuck, I’m still trying to process this disaster. [/quote]
Watching it again, Lockette has a lot of fault here. He slowed up to hand catch it, where as if he had run through he would have caught it on the numbers, blocking Butler out.
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Bevell, is that you?!?!
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
It didn’t like the call then; I don’t like the call now. I’m not convinced it was the worst call in the history of sports, however.
And I’m also not convinced it isn’t mostly on Bevell. Pete didn’t call an offensive play all year so I doubt he called this one.
Fuck, I’m still trying to process this disaster. [/quote]
Watching it again, Lockette has a lot of fault here. He slowed up to hand catch it, where as if he had run through he would have caught it on the numbers, blocking Butler out.
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Lockette could have executed better. I agree 100%. And it was also an awesome defensive play. It was bordering a PI call (I’m not saying it was or claiming there should have been a flag just that the timing was so close) and he just fucking jammed right through the receiver. So my hat’s off the to defender for making an awesome play in clutch time. Fuck.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Watching it again, Lockette has a lot of fault here. He slowed up to hand catch it, where as if he had run through he would have caught it on the numbers, blocking Butler out.
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Nah, Butler knocked his ass out. Even if he runs through BEST* case is a PI call, which we all know isn’t happening right there.
The way Butler and Browner played that… No throw to that side of the field (outside a broken play) results in a touch. Wilson isn’t completing that pass, Manning isn’t completing that pass, Montana isn’t competing that pass to Rice. Butler knew the play the second the receiver moved inside.
Best being it isn’t an interception.