2012 Olympia

Training
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[quote]SSC wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:
Someone posted this

"Yes, I have thoughts on that: People in this sport are fucking babies. They bitch about anything and everything they can when their favorite guy in a speedo doesn’t win. I get so tired of the bitching and moaning and bullshit in this sport, sometimes.

He “cheated” by standing in a place where it made him look bigger. That is so fucking hilariously pathetic that I am sorry that I have even given it the last 30 seconds of my life."

I agree[/quote]

Jesus, quoted for truth.

This thread is so ridiculous, lol.[/quote]

The rules state don’t go past the line.

Phil repeatedly ignored it.

Was told to stop it, continued to ignore.

Did so to gain an advantage.

Therefore how can it be argued that he is NOT cheating?

It is not a statement of opinion, it’s a fact.

You can argue it didn’t give him a big advantage, but you can’t argue that it isn’t cheating.

Majority of pictures, Phil looks same size/ bigger than Kai. The ONLY reason is cause he is clearly standing in front of him, sometimes by alot too.

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[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:

[quote]buffd_samurai wrote:
Just as ridiculous as any NFL team fan board analyzing or criticizing any aspects of the game or their team’s performance.

Just as ridiculous as people analyzing or criticizing or postulating about their political or religious beliefs.

Just as ridiculous as debating the benefits of one training style versus another?

Nah…nobody does that, right?[/quote]

Except that, in a forum like this, we might actually be analyzing one man’s pecs and abs as compared to another man’s pecs and abs. Sometimes we’re a little gay. swoons at Kai[/quote]

See that’s just it…when i step back and take it out of the context “i’m viewing it in” i suppose it might seem off to some.

I don’t see gender in it, well it’s viewing human art, with certain bodybuilders you see and feel each rep, the hours, the toil…the process. we relate to the process, and w/ certain athletes it’s easier to connect their path to our path.

there is no sex, no gayness, to me. it’s like looking @ someones expression of a life’s work. powerful and awe inspiring like a comic book drawn to proportions and in detail we really only reserve for out mind or w/in the pages of something drawn to represent someone powerful or commanding in presence.

almost like watching a lion…or a predator (see what i did there), something intense, menacing, but also beautiful in structure…hence the term for guys like flex and rhoden as …so damn pretty.

it needs that…w/out the balance and appeal of form you end up…maybe…branch warren. zzziiinnggggggg.

anyways…off to watch mmmmw porn. wait what?
[/quote]

sorry but your posts suck, you’re not Ginsberg you just sound like an emo 15 year old trying to act intelligent.

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[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:

[quote]buffd_samurai wrote:
Just as ridiculous as any NFL team fan board analyzing or criticizing any aspects of the game or their team’s performance.

Just as ridiculous as people analyzing or criticizing or postulating about their political or religious beliefs.

Just as ridiculous as debating the benefits of one training style versus another?

Nah…nobody does that, right?[/quote]

Except that, in a forum like this, we might actually be analyzing one man’s pecs and abs as compared to another man’s pecs and abs. Sometimes we’re a little gay. swoons at Kai[/quote]

See that’s just it…when i step back and take it out of the context “i’m viewing it in” i suppose it might seem off to some.

I don’t see gender in it, well it’s viewing human art, with certain bodybuilders you see and feel each rep, the hours, the toil…the process. we relate to the process, and w/ certain athletes it’s easier to connect their path to our path.

there is no sex, no gayness, to me. it’s like looking @ someones expression of a life’s work. powerful and awe inspiring like a comic book drawn to proportions and in detail we really only reserve for out mind or w/in the pages of something drawn to represent someone powerful or commanding in presence.

almost like watching a lion…or a predator (see what i did there), something intense, menacing, but also beautiful in structure…hence the term for guys like flex and rhoden as …so damn pretty.

it needs that…w/out the balance and appeal of form you end up…maybe…branch warren. zzziiinnggggggg.

anyways…off to watch mmmmw porn. wait what?
[/quote]

sorry but your posts suck, you’re not Ginsberg you just sound like an emo 15 year old trying to act intelligent.[/quote]

don’t read my shit, just skip past it. i rarely respond to negative shit…but here goes…

who the fuck are you and what have you done. go look in by before after’s cock sucker…i’m no pro but went from 140lbs to 230lbs, that’s 90lbs and i did it natural in a few yrs. there are folks light yrs ahead of me and sorry bastards way behind me.

i write because i like too, because i can, i enjoy this site, i’ve learned a lot and do my best to help others when i can.

i’m a grown man and don’t look for altercations but by all means keep pushing…alligator mouth, parakeet ass

if i feel like waxing poetic about my passion for folks who push limits and give an crazy story or description here or there i will. man, i don’t normally get in an e-fight but your shit pissed me off. fucking ginsberg.

drop the bar on your fucking neck.

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[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:

[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:

[quote]buffd_samurai wrote:
Just as ridiculous as any NFL team fan board analyzing or criticizing any aspects of the game or their team’s performance.

Just as ridiculous as people analyzing or criticizing or postulating about their political or religious beliefs.

Just as ridiculous as debating the benefits of one training style versus another?

Nah…nobody does that, right?[/quote]

Except that, in a forum like this, we might actually be analyzing one man’s pecs and abs as compared to another man’s pecs and abs. Sometimes we’re a little gay. swoons at Kai[/quote]

See that’s just it…when i step back and take it out of the context “i’m viewing it in” i suppose it might seem off to some.

I don’t see gender in it, well it’s viewing human art, with certain bodybuilders you see and feel each rep, the hours, the toil…the process. we relate to the process, and w/ certain athletes it’s easier to connect their path to our path.

there is no sex, no gayness, to me. it’s like looking @ someones expression of a life’s work. powerful and awe inspiring like a comic book drawn to proportions and in detail we really only reserve for out mind or w/in the pages of something drawn to represent someone powerful or commanding in presence.

almost like watching a lion…or a predator (see what i did there), something intense, menacing, but also beautiful in structure…hence the term for guys like flex and rhoden as …so damn pretty.

it needs that…w/out the balance and appeal of form you end up…maybe…branch warren. zzziiinnggggggg.

anyways…off to watch mmmmw porn. wait what?
[/quote]

sorry but your posts suck, you’re not Ginsberg you just sound like an emo 15 year old trying to act intelligent.[/quote]

don’t read my shit, just skip past it. i rarely respond to negative shit…but here goes…

who the fuck are you and what have you done. go look in by before after’s cock sucker…i’m no pro but went from 140lbs to 230lbs, that’s 90lbs and i did it natural in a few yrs. there are folks light yrs ahead of me and sorry bastards way behind me.

i write because i like too, because i can, i enjoy this site, i’ve learned a lot and do my best to help others when i can.

i’m a grown man and don’t look for altercations but by all means keep pushing…alligator mouth, parakeet ass

if i feel like waxing poetic about my passion for folks who push limits and give an crazy story or description here or there i will. man, i don’t normally get in an e-fight but your shit pissed me off. fucking ginsberg.

drop the bar on your fucking neck.
[/quote]

spoken like a true emo.

I suppose some people just have different definitions of what “waxing poetic” means.

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[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:

[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:

[quote]buffd_samurai wrote:
Just as ridiculous as any NFL team fan board analyzing or criticizing any aspects of the game or their team’s performance.

Just as ridiculous as people analyzing or criticizing or postulating about their political or religious beliefs.

Just as ridiculous as debating the benefits of one training style versus another?

Nah…nobody does that, right?[/quote]

Except that, in a forum like this, we might actually be analyzing one man’s pecs and abs as compared to another man’s pecs and abs. Sometimes we’re a little gay. swoons at Kai[/quote]

See that’s just it…when i step back and take it out of the context “i’m viewing it in” i suppose it might seem off to some.

I don’t see gender in it, well it’s viewing human art, with certain bodybuilders you see and feel each rep, the hours, the toil…the process. we relate to the process, and w/ certain athletes it’s easier to connect their path to our path.

there is no sex, no gayness, to me. it’s like looking @ someones expression of a life’s work. powerful and awe inspiring like a comic book drawn to proportions and in detail we really only reserve for out mind or w/in the pages of something drawn to represent someone powerful or commanding in presence.

almost like watching a lion…or a predator (see what i did there), something intense, menacing, but also beautiful in structure…hence the term for guys like flex and rhoden as …so damn pretty.

it needs that…w/out the balance and appeal of form you end up…maybe…branch warren. zzziiinnggggggg.

anyways…off to watch mmmmw porn. wait what?
[/quote]

sorry but your posts suck, you’re not Ginsberg you just sound like an emo 15 year old trying to act intelligent.[/quote]

don’t read my shit, just skip past it. i rarely respond to negative shit…but here goes…

who the fuck are you and what have you done. go look in by before after’s cock sucker…i’m no pro but went from 140lbs to 230lbs, that’s 90lbs and i did it natural in a few yrs. there are folks light yrs ahead of me and sorry bastards way behind me.

i write because i like too, because i can, i enjoy this site, i’ve learned a lot and do my best to help others when i can.

i’m a grown man and don’t look for altercations but by all means keep pushing…alligator mouth, parakeet ass

if i feel like waxing poetic about my passion for folks who push limits and give an crazy story or description here or there i will. man, i don’t normally get in an e-fight but your shit pissed me off. fucking ginsberg.

drop the bar on your fucking neck.
[/quote]

spoken like a true emo.

I suppose some people just have different definitions of what “waxing poetic” means.[/quote]

Wow. What a hurting soul you are, Yolo.

Cyrus is over the top, outspoken and uniquely expressive around here, and many of us are quite fond of him.

Not all art has to be painted with finesse and fine little brushes.

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Not all art has to be painted with finesse and fine little brushes.[/quote]

i am getting lost in all the intelligent metaphors being used by you two intellectuals.

i appreciate the aesthetic involved in BB, after all that is the intrinsic value behind the entire sport.

however, if someone takes a dump in the corner of the room and says it is art, i have a hard time agreeing.

some posts read like dumps in the corner to me.

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[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Not all art has to be painted with finesse and fine little brushes.[/quote]

i am getting lost in all the intelligent metaphors being used by you two intellectuals.

i appreciate the aesthetic involved in BB, after all that is the intrinsic value behind the entire sport.

however, if someone takes a dump in the corner of the room and says it is art, i have a hard time agreeing.

some posts read like dumps in the corner to me.[/quote]

Then please leave the bathroom, head down the hall to your bedroom where you can safely hide your head under your covers.

Nighty-night.

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appreciate all the support ID,

look yolo84…based on my interpretation of your screen name you are like 26yrs old…you finished college, maybe grad school, background in the sciences maybe, or perhaps your humping loafs of bread as a night crew stocker…either way, i don’t care.

what are your stats, what have you done, how are you excelling and growing in this bodybuilding world?

once a year i get fired up about the olympia, thereafter if i post it’s generally training related. what do you do, what are you contributing here on T-Nation?

write me a training split w/ an explanation for reps/sets/exercises ?

do you front end carb load, pwo insights PC, do you omit fat pwo, thoughts on glutamine, carbs at night diminish GH levels. are fruits synthesized through the liver first, does glycogen repletion occur in the liver first, how many grams needed? scott curls for peak or is that largely determined by insertion points and lean body mass? what do from squat, do you wrap your knees?

do you wear certain shirts for chest day, different shorts on leg day, speak about mind body connection, pre-workout rituals

BBAAAWWWOOOOOOOSSSSHHHHHHH…flush me down.

throw up some pics on your profile…what do you look like? are you a big dude, an all the way big dude? do you know the movie quote? do you have a beautiful body?

if you’re 5’10 and 175…and anything other than peeled to the bone, i’ll be amused. tell me you weigh at least 200lbs right, 200 and your not a tub of fat shit right, i hope? hell, you might be a monster, that be cool. respect for that. still think you’re a fucking toolbox, a child, man-boy either way…

cheer to you though, i have big hard on for you. i think it’s the emo thing…it burns me a bit. dude’s w/ black hair and polish…i want to tell them to forgive their fathers. if you’re calling me emo because i live life full, enjoy beauty, think free and often, question shit, love things fully…well…i suppose i am emo.

i love art, literature, music and i don’t care much for Monday night football…maybe i’m. no wait, i love women and the only cock i love is my own.

off to train legs…thnks for the push tonite yolo84.

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[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:
appreciate all the support ID,

look yolo84…based on my interpretation of your screen name you are like 26yrs old…you finished college, maybe grad school, background in the sciences maybe, or perhaps your humping loafs of bread as a night crew stocker…either way, i don’t care.

what are your stats, what have you done, how are you excelling and growing in this bodybuilding world?

once a year i get fired up about the olympia, thereafter if i post it’s generally training related. what do you do, what are you contributing here on T-Nation?

write me a training split w/ an explanation for reps/sets/exercises ?

do you front end carb load, pwo insights PC, do you omit fat pwo, thoughts on glutamine, carbs at night diminish GH levels. are fruits synthesized through the liver first, does glycogen repletion occur in the liver first, how many grams needed? scott curls for peak or is that largely determined by insertion points and lean body mass? what do from squat, do you wrap your knees?

do you wear certain shirts for chest day, different shorts on leg day, speak about mind body connection, pre-workout rituals

BBAAAWWWOOOOOOOSSSSHHHHHHH…flush me down.

throw up some pics on your profile…what do you look like? are you a big dude, an all the way big dude? do you know the movie quote? do you have a beautiful body?

if you’re 5’10 and 175…and anything other than peeled to the bone, i’ll be amused. tell me you weigh at least 200lbs right, 200 and your not a tub of fat shit right, i hope? hell, you might be a monster, that be cool. respect for that. still think you’re a fucking toolbox, a child, man-boy either way…

cheer to you though, i have big hard on for you. i think it’s the emo thing…it burns me a bit. dude’s w/ black hair and polish…i want to tell them to forgive their fathers. if you’re calling me emo because i live life full, enjoy beauty, think free and often, question shit, love things fully…well…i suppose i am emo.

i love art, literature, music and i don’t care much for Monday night football…maybe i’m. no wait, i love women and the only cock i love is my own.

off to train legs…thnks for the push tonite yolo84. [/quote]

Thank you this made me lol.

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[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:

[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:
appreciate all the support ID,

look yolo84…based on my interpretation of your screen name you are like 26yrs old…you finished college, maybe grad school, background in the sciences maybe, or perhaps your humping loafs of bread as a night crew stocker…either way, i don’t care.

what are your stats, what have you done, how are you excelling and growing in this bodybuilding world?

once a year i get fired up about the olympia, thereafter if i post it’s generally training related. what do you do, what are you contributing here on T-Nation?

write me a training split w/ an explanation for reps/sets/exercises ?

do you front end carb load, pwo insights PC, do you omit fat pwo, thoughts on glutamine, carbs at night diminish GH levels. are fruits synthesized through the liver first, does glycogen repletion occur in the liver first, how many grams needed? scott curls for peak or is that largely determined by insertion points and lean body mass? what do from squat, do you wrap your knees?

do you wear certain shirts for chest day, different shorts on leg day, speak about mind body connection, pre-workout rituals

BBAAAWWWOOOOOOOSSSSHHHHHHH…flush me down.

throw up some pics on your profile…what do you look like? are you a big dude, an all the way big dude? do you know the movie quote? do you have a beautiful body?

if you’re 5’10 and 175…and anything other than peeled to the bone, i’ll be amused. tell me you weigh at least 200lbs right, 200 and your not a tub of fat shit right, i hope? hell, you might be a monster, that be cool. respect for that. still think you’re a fucking toolbox, a child, man-boy either way…

cheer to you though, i have big hard on for you. i think it’s the emo thing…it burns me a bit. dude’s w/ black hair and polish…i want to tell them to forgive their fathers. if you’re calling me emo because i live life full, enjoy beauty, think free and often, question shit, love things fully…well…i suppose i am emo.

i love art, literature, music and i don’t care much for Monday night football…maybe i’m. no wait, i love women and the only cock i love is my own.

off to train legs…thnks for the push tonite yolo84. [/quote]

Thank you this made me lol.[/quote]

X2!

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Phil and Kai Ride The Bus - YouTube!

Phil and Kai sitting on the bus together! Cool video. Kai calls out Phil around the 4:55 mark.

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Phil is looking better than he did at the O…!

Kai doesnt

Maybe things will change tonight for finals, who knows

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[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]SSC wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:
Someone posted this

"Yes, I have thoughts on that: People in this sport are fucking babies. They bitch about anything and everything they can when their favorite guy in a speedo doesn’t win. I get so tired of the bitching and moaning and bullshit in this sport, sometimes.

He “cheated” by standing in a place where it made him look bigger. That is so fucking hilariously pathetic that I am sorry that I have even given it the last 30 seconds of my life."

I agree[/quote]

Jesus, quoted for truth.

This thread is so ridiculous, lol.[/quote]

The rules state don’t go past the line.

Phil repeatedly ignored it.

Was told to stop it, continued to ignore.

Did so to gain an advantage.

Therefore how can it be argued that he is NOT cheating?

It is not a statement of opinion, it’s a fact.

You can argue it didn’t give him a big advantage, but you can’t argue that it isn’t cheating.

Majority of pictures, Phil looks same size/ bigger than Kai. The ONLY reason is cause he is clearly standing in front of him, sometimes by alot too.[/quote]

Phil was acting like an ass with constantly trying to get in front, its even prominent in the Sheru Classic footage.

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? Haven’t they done that at posedowns since the 80’s? I haven’t seen it so maybe I have the facts wrong, but fighting to get in front is what you do at that point on stage. How aggressive you are with it is up to how much everyone on stage wants to showboat.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
? Haven’t they done that at posedowns since the 80’s? I haven’t seen it so maybe I have the facts wrong, but fighting to get in front is what you do at that point on stage. How aggressive you are with it is up to how much everyone on stage wants to showboat. [/quote]

THANK YOU

God.

At the Sheru PJing if you look at it Phil and Roelly BOTH end up in front of the line and Kai actually starts on the line (along with Heath and Roelly) but ends BEHIND the line

If he doesnt want to fight to be closer its his problem really. And plz dont say he plays by the rules and stuff. This sport is about creating a damn illusion. If you wanna blame someone dont blame Phil, blame the judges.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
? Haven’t they done that at posedowns since the 80’s? I haven’t seen it so maybe I have the facts wrong, but fighting to get in front is what you do at that point on stage. How aggressive you are with it is up to how much everyone on stage wants to showboat. [/quote]

I guess but whats the point in having a rule that states you gotta stay on the line when it seems acceptable to disregard it.

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[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
? Haven’t they done that at posedowns since the 80’s? I haven’t seen it so maybe I have the facts wrong, but fighting to get in front is what you do at that point on stage. How aggressive you are with it is up to how much everyone on stage wants to showboat. [/quote]

I guess but whats the point in having a rule that states you gotta stay on the line when it seems acceptable to disregard it.[/quote]

Maybe because no one ever made a big deal of it before?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
? Haven’t they done that at posedowns since the 80’s? I haven’t seen it so maybe I have the facts wrong, but fighting to get in front is what you do at that point on stage. How aggressive you are with it is up to how much everyone on stage wants to showboat. [/quote]

I guess but whats the point in having a rule that states you gotta stay on the line when it seems acceptable to disregard it.[/quote]

Maybe because no one ever made a big deal of it before?[/quote]

Who knows, they should play along with it and completely give them free reign to do whatever they want and make the showing more aggressive and entertaining and save us all arguing over angles and improved lighting winning the Olympia.

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more of prof x nuthugging phil
phil has injected so much oil to get this relaxed 3d muscle flex look
kai hard look over this garbage any day

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[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
? Haven’t they done that at posedowns since the 80’s? I haven’t seen it so maybe I have the facts wrong, but fighting to get in front is what you do at that point on stage. How aggressive you are with it is up to how much everyone on stage wants to showboat. [/quote]

I guess but whats the point in having a rule that states you gotta stay on the line when it seems acceptable to disregard it.[/quote]

Maybe because no one ever made a big deal of it before?[/quote]

Who knows, they should play along with it and completely give them free reign to do whatever they want and make the showing more aggressive and entertaining and save us all arguing over angles and improved lighting winning the Olympia.[/quote]

Dude, they used to jump off stage…that is why I don’t really understand the discussion.