[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]anonym wrote:
…, closet beta.[/quote]
— them is fighting words, for sure…[/quote]
I know, right?
[quote]Aggv wrote:
zyzz threads always bring out the haters. [/quote]
Isn’t that the point?
[quote]anonym wrote:
Oh, no! Zyzz dangerously close to committing the Hover Hand folly.
Confirmed for overcompensating, closet beta.[/quote]
Lol! Terrific find! I wonder if there are a few more like this out there.
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
I invoke the ancient law of photographic evidence or it happend not.[/quote]
OK… but only because it’s you. Someone can probably find the others if they ask on /fit.
No homo.[/quote]
The idiot is going to shoot off his left “gun” with the one in his right hand.
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
I invoke the ancient law of photographic evidence or it happend not.[/quote]
OK… but only because it’s you. Someone can probably find the others if they ask on /fit.
No homo.[/quote]
I was banking on something more substantial than that. The photographer’s name and studio plastered on the snap usually means it promotes the photographer, not the model.
As for /fit, it’s the essence of evil that drove Jack Torrance to kill then went on to spread its wickedness beyond the Overlook hotel by corrupting countless innocents in the form of a website.
/ Fit sent us Celtics, his thousand yard stare and formidable sewing skills…
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
re: PX/Derek542
All I’m saying is when you’re in your 40’s with a family, career, mortgage, and the constant pain of fighting gravity and aging, if you want to be big/strong, you really have to want it.
I mean you really have to want it.[/quote]
Steely you know me, what do you think?
I agree and the sacrifice has to be decided and again what is the end game?
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
There is a reason most people who went to grad school or professional school like law or medical school don’t have 20" arms. It is fucking hard to do that and focus on education that much at the same time.
That is what makes comments about somehow being a failure because of not being “shredded” sound absolutely ridiculous.
I would have to see all of the people truly getting big first to give a shit.[/quote]
My comments weren’t ridiculous. Being successful professionally and being a big gymrat is still different than being successful professionally AND being successful in the realm of bodybuilding (being big and cut). The latter is my goal; if I didn’t achieve it I would feel like a failure. I don’t come down on other people when their goals are not my own unless they’re cocky. So yes, you do act like someone you’re not if you go around on these boards as if you’re a bodybuilding guru.[/quote]
How old are you? I am not being derogatory. It truly seems you don’t have any experience at all seeing this from the perspective of someone with a career. Have you had a job before?
Again, some of these comments are a little strange. Why would I need to be “more cut” than I am right now to be respected for what I have built as far as bodybuilding? Trust me, no one outside of internet chat rooms is questioning me like this. I could see if I were actually so “fat” that my muscularity was blurred, but it isn’t…so what is your point?
I don’t “act” like some bodybuilding guru either. I have been following this sport and several competitive bodybuilders personally for now more than half my life. I also have an advanced degree in biology, years of actual lab experience, and a DDS. I am very interested in what you think it is I am claiming to be beyond this?
Could you make that clear for us all?
What is it you are claiming I am trying to be that I am not? I would like to see quotes of where I stated this…and not just your opinion.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Not sure why it’s a taboo topic to ask. I mean, sure, maybe I could have said “what are your lifting goals these days” and made a nice euphemism out of it, but it’s the same question.
People start lifting for many reasons. Many of seem to be due to a sense of inadequacy somewhere – too skinny, too fat, getting bullied, etc. Even “because I want to look better” is really “I’m not comfortable with how I look now”. And certainly there’s “to be more attractive to the opposite sex”.
It doesn’t take too long (a year or three) before most of those original goals are reached. It’s after that point that I was mostly asking: “why do you then keep lifting”.
I know some people do it for the competition; without that, it has little value. And others seem to just need/want/crave the experience of the gym; it’s become a part of who they are, and they could care less about the rest.
A lot of arguing, in this thread [again], seems to come back to this idea that “a competitive bber/fitness model should also want to be lean”. Which – if you’re competing – I agree with.
But there seems to be some dissonance here, because if you want to be big and strong and enjoy the gym experience, but don’t care about about competing, then of course there’s going to be a different emphasis on values than a competitive bber.
Which is why I was asking about the goal/objective/reasons for lifting now. Mainly just trying to get some context for the advice given.
Well, and just getting a little tired of the same rehashed arguments.[/quote]
It wasn’t a bad question at all. In fact, that is why you see me tell newbs that they need to spend some time learning how their bodies work instead of jumping into a gym for the first time thinking about competition only. I have known MANY guys who used to compete who don’t even train anymore. Once they passed that threshold where they could compete well, they had no further passion for it.
I am not like that. I see improvements in my body every year. Remember, I was the kid that was NOT supposed to be able to get big…which is why these comments now as if I didn’t do good enough are so funny.
It means I did what they think most can’t do…that is why they try really hard to make it seem like it means so little.
I lift because my goals are extreme. I did that on purpose from the start. I knew way too many people who had much shallower goals who lost interest once they reached them.
It is much like Al Bundy…he peaked early…so he went from football star to shoe salesman.
If these guys think they are already there, what the fuck is going to keep them in the gym during pregnancies, lay offs, divorces, board exams, funerals, marriages and fights?
They won’t keep at it…just like most people don’t.
I hope that answers your question.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
If all I accomplished by this age was getting shredded I would consider myself a failure period.[/quote]
Easy there, Prof.
Don’t overdo the wisdom/perspective in a thread titled like this one is.
[quote]chillain wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
If all I accomplished by this age was getting shredded I would consider myself a failure period.[/quote]
Easy there, Prof.
Don’t overdo the wisdom/perspective in a thread titled like this one is.
[/quote]
It truly had me laughing though.
I knew tons of guys who literally LIVED in the gym in their 20’s. Some didn’t even have jobs, they just stayed at whatever girls’ house they were banging at the moment. I don’t think any of those guys even lift now…so I really don’t care how perfect they were during that 5-8 year period.
I want to be that bad ass looking motherfucker who can afford a lifestyle to match the look…without even spending much on material shit.
I am Tony Stark.
lol
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I hope that answers your question.[/quote]
Yeah, that was a great answer. Thanks.
I could be more longwinded, but I think that covers it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
There is a reason most people who went to grad school or professional school like law or medical school don’t have 20" arms. It is fucking hard to do that and focus on education that much at the same time.
That is what makes comments about somehow being a failure because of not being “shredded” sound absolutely ridiculous.
I would have to see all of the people truly getting big first to give a shit.[/quote]
My comments weren’t ridiculous. Being successful professionally and being a big gymrat is still different than being successful professionally AND being successful in the realm of bodybuilding (being big and cut). The latter is my goal; if I didn’t achieve it I would feel like a failure. I don’t come down on other people when their goals are not my own unless they’re cocky. So yes, you do act like someone you’re not if you go around on these boards as if you’re a bodybuilding guru.[/quote]
How old are you? I am not being derogatory. It truly seems you don’t have any experience at all seeing this from the perspective of someone with a career. Have you had a job before?
Again, some of these comments are a little strange. Why would I need to be “more cut” than I am right now to be respected for what I have built as far as bodybuilding? Trust me, no one outside of internet chat rooms is questioning me like this. I could see if I were actually so “fat” that my muscularity was blurred, but it isn’t…so what is your point?
I don’t “act” like some bodybuilding guru either. I have been following this sport and several competitive bodybuilders personally for now more than half my life. I also have an advanced degree in biology, years of actual lab experience, and a DDS. I am very interested in what you think it is I am claiming to be beyond this?
Could you make that clear for us all?
What is it you are claiming I am trying to be that I am not? I would like to see quotes of where I stated this…and not just your opinion.[/quote]
Sure, I graduated in under 4 years with 2 degrees (one an advanced bio degree) and 2 minors. + 4 years actual lab experience, 2 of them directly with the inventor of the most commonly used cancer treatment of all time. Regardless, you can’t deride my argument by attacking my age or work ethic. Thousands of posts over years on a bodybuilding forum should imply some sort of expertise or success in the field. Sure, moving forward is great, and better than most posters on these types of forums, but I don’t define bulking up while building a career as a great success. You’re cocky and I will do better.
Anyways, now I can see how much of a douche I’m being, I’ll back out of GAL till the next callout thread.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
There is a reason most people who went to grad school or professional school like law or medical school don’t have 20" arms. It is fucking hard to do that and focus on education that much at the same time.
That is what makes comments about somehow being a failure because of not being “shredded” sound absolutely ridiculous.
I would have to see all of the people truly getting big first to give a shit.[/quote]
My comments weren’t ridiculous. Being successful professionally and being a big gymrat is still different than being successful professionally AND being successful in the realm of bodybuilding (being big and cut). The latter is my goal; if I didn’t achieve it I would feel like a failure. I don’t come down on other people when their goals are not my own unless they’re cocky. So yes, you do act like someone you’re not if you go around on these boards as if you’re a bodybuilding guru.[/quote]
How old are you? I am not being derogatory. It truly seems you don’t have any experience at all seeing this from the perspective of someone with a career. Have you had a job before?
Again, some of these comments are a little strange. Why would I need to be “more cut” than I am right now to be respected for what I have built as far as bodybuilding? Trust me, no one outside of internet chat rooms is questioning me like this. I could see if I were actually so “fat” that my muscularity was blurred, but it isn’t…so what is your point?
I don’t “act” like some bodybuilding guru either. I have been following this sport and several competitive bodybuilders personally for now more than half my life. I also have an advanced degree in biology, years of actual lab experience, and a DDS. I am very interested in what you think it is I am claiming to be beyond this?
Could you make that clear for us all?
What is it you are claiming I am trying to be that I am not? I would like to see quotes of where I stated this…and not just your opinion.[/quote]
Sure, I graduated in under 4 years with 2 degrees (one an advanced bio degree) and 2 minors. + 4 years actual lab experience, 2 of them directly with the inventor of the most commonly used cancer treatment of all time. Regardless, you can’t deride my argument by attacking my age or work ethic. Thousands of posts over years on a bodybuilding forum should imply some sort of expertise or success in the field. Sure, moving forward is great, and better than most posters on these types of forums, but I don’t define bulking up while building a career as a great success. You’re cocky and I will do better.
Anyways, now I can see how much of a douche I’m being, I’ll back out of GAL till the next callout thread.[/quote]
Dont you know people in their 20s all are jobsless and live witg mom?
Lol
I love T-Nation threads, when talking about life.
Either people try to one up each other by HOW HARD THERE LIFE WAS WHEN THEY WERE A KID.
OR (Like this thread)
Descend into how much better at life they are then the other person.(because life is based on one spectrum)
Personally I like the “hard life” routine because then I can at least be like “lol i never had to deal with that.”
lol it’s both, how much better everyone currently is and how hard they had it
we should rap battle these things
Ct. would win because he looks like LL Cool J or DJ Khaled (not sure on his race and/or if he’s ever lifted)
[quote]optheta wrote:
Personally I like the “hard life” routine because then I can at least be like “lol i never had to deal with that.”[/quote]
It shows.
lol @ the turn this thread has taken.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
Personally I like the “hard life” routine because then I can at least be like “lol i never had to deal with that.”[/quote]
It shows. [/quote]
U mad bro?
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
Personally I like the “hard life” routine because then I can at least be like “lol i never had to deal with that.”[/quote]
It shows. [/quote]
U mad bro?[/quote]
Have you ever experienced an original thought…bro?
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