[quote]zraw wrote:
thx guys!
Im today and tomorrow im getting more carbs yay!! after that its depletion time :([/quote]
Holy balls
Zraw tell me you dressed up for Halloween as bane or a Scorpion or something.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
Thirdly, you’ve obviously leaned back toward Biotest after trying to do things yourself. That’s a very strong endorsement. Clearly you’ve found their products/formulations to work great for yourself. However, it makes me wonder if Biotest products work better for “advanced” lifters. Do you think the difference between Biotest and generic would also be significant for “beginner” lifters?
Finally, you’ve discussed delt and leg training a lot, both in this thread and others. I haven’t seen anything about lat/back training (maybe I missed it.) Would you mind expounding on it? Or pointing me in a particular direction? (besides JM’s article)[/quote]
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I do think the difference between generic and Biotest would be significant for everyone to be honest… just the way I feel intra workout cannot be compared to anything ive tried so far…
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Honestly there isnt anything revolutionnary about back workout except maybe that a lot of focus is put on working the lats first and then going on with traps and rhomboids… im not sure what ud like to know… Usually i get 1-2 contraction type of movements for lats then 1 stretching type of movement (think db pullovers)
[quote]timmcbride00 wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
Here we go
Wow, the progression in this thread has just been phenomenal.
Obviously, size and conditioning is great, but the posing has really come a long way as well.
How are you feeling with the ab/thigh? I personally think it looks good, just curious though.[/quote]
I like it but need to have the front leg a bit more on the side to have more of an hourglass kinda look, if it makes sense
[quote]optheta wrote:
Zraw tell me you dressed up for Halloween as bane or a Scorpion or something.[/quote]
I was on a treadmill doing cardio 
I dont think this video’s good but i’ll upload anyways
Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight
thanks for the lateral db swing advice, pretty sure I ruined a tshirt with that delt pump
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight
thanks for the lateral db swing advice, pretty sure I ruined a tshirt with that delt pump[/quote]
Good 
Z,
Have you been practicing your posing in front of mirrors?
Not to sound naggy, but I hope you’re doing it without mirrors also.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Z,
Have you been practicing your posing in front of mirrors?
Not to sound naggy, but I hope you’re doing it without mirrors also.
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I do it in front of mirrors with eyes closed! Hit the pose, hold 10sec, open eyes
Its just that I feel weird if I watch the damn phone when im doing the posing videos so I rather look at myself in the mirror haha
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Z,
Have you been practicing your posing in front of mirrors?
Not to sound naggy, but I hope you’re doing it without mirrors also.
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I do it in front of mirrors with eyes closed! Hit the pose, hold 10sec, open eyes
Its just that I feel weird if I watch the damn phone when im doing the posing videos so I rather look at myself in the mirror haha[/quote]
You might try Googling a photo of an audience of people facing you. Then do your posing routine in front of your PC.
Good luck brotha, you are going to kill it.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Z,
Have you been practicing your posing in front of mirrors?
Not to sound naggy, but I hope you’re doing it without mirrors also.
[/quote]
I do it in front of mirrors with eyes closed! Hit the pose, hold 10sec, open eyes
Its just that I feel weird if I watch the damn phone when im doing the posing videos so I rather look at myself in the mirror haha[/quote]
You might try Googling a photo of an audience of people facing you. Then do your posing routine in front of your PC.
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Do your routine in front of this:
[quote]zraw wrote:
thx to everyone that followed this journey![/quote]
Thx to you for bringing us along for the ride!
Amazing work and current condition, all the best going fwd…
I just cant wait to see what i’ll look like once im filled out and the subq water is pulled out lol
That + tan will be amazing, imo
Question : Would you guys actually pull slowly on the rear lats spread at the beggining of movement to display lower back christmas tree slowly kind of?
Give it a shot in the next vid so we can see what it looks like. I like the idea personally, but the execution is what will determine if its worth while.
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
Give it a shot in the next vid so we can see what it looks like. I like the idea personally, but the execution is what will determine if its worth while.[/quote]
This. If done properly, the buildup and climax (not to sound sexual) will be sweet~!
Also Z… I know some of the pros do it, but I’m not so sure it’s a good idea to always feel/check with your hands to see if your glutes/hams are fully tensed when you do your back poses. Try learning how it feels without the hand assurance.
Just my 2 cents.
Z- totally loving the side tri, as well as the ab/thigh!!!
Good work. Really excited to see contest pictures!
_Mel
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
Give it a shot in the next vid so we can see what it looks like. I like the idea personally, but the execution is what will determine if its worth while.[/quote]
This. If done properly, the buildup and climax (not to sound sexual) will be sweet~!
Also Z… I know some of the pros do it, but I’m not so sure it’s a good idea to always feel/check with your hands to see if your glutes/hams are fully tensed when you do your back poses. Try learning how it feels without the hand assurance.
Just my 2 cents.[/quote]
You may very well be right! Or maybe I could just do it more subtly if I feel the need to!
On the lats spread ive spotted a lot of things I wasnt doing right! Next time its gonna look good (next time being tonight most likely hah)