Zephead's Log

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Today:

incline bench:
135x3
155x3
175x2PR

Shoulder press (used a diff smith with an angle so no prs to break, going to dbs next week)

In-human smith CGBP
135x15
185x3[/quote]

The IH press is not a powerlifting exercise… Just be careful.
Especially after doing ME work on inclines.

I’d go more like:
Bar* 8 (just to get into the groove)
135*8

do 2-3 more sets until you can only get 5-6 reps or so…

#Edit: If you for some reason want to do 2 ME exercises, do elbows-tucked CGP’s instead…

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Today:

incline bench:
135x3
155x3
175x2PR

Shoulder press (used a diff smith with an angle so no prs to break, going to dbs next week)

In-human smith CGBP
135x15
185x3

The IH press is not a powerlifting exercise… Just be careful.
Especially after doing ME work on inclines.

I’d go more like:
Bar* 8 (just to get into the groove)
135*8

do 2-3 more sets until you can only get 5-6 reps or so…

#Edit: If you for some reason want to do 2 ME exercises, do elbows-tucked CGP’s instead…[/quote]

I didn’t know how heavy 185 would feel. I will lower the weight and RP it next week.

I’m getting concerned about my left elbow. I’m fearing tendonitis.

Today: for the safety of my elbow I did a few excercizes but kept them all in the 15-20 rep range. Not even worth posting about.

I might switch the leg press to smith backsquats with my feet out in front of me. I think it will replicate a hack squat machine.

[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
since when did

kept it light = worked up to 405

???

I have gone from slightly jealous to full on jealousy of your dl numbers.[/quote]

ha, It’s all I’m good at. I really need to find a way to bring my DL up. I’m a back puller and I’m hoping the 9 day week allows for more recovery and I can do rack pulls and GMs. My lower back is SO over fatigued right now.

I can pull 405 up fast but 20-30 pounds more I can barely get off the ground. By teh time I get there my lower back is ready to quit.

Finally got my work times fixed.

for the next few weeks at least I will be doing:


Squat day:
Backsquat for a heavy top set. wrapped and belted

Glute hams-I really want to work my way up to being able to do these with a 45 pound plate.

Smith squats- will stay in the 8-15 rep range probably. Maybe higher. I want huge quads.

Lat pulldown/rack chin depends on whether I have a training partner to put the weight on my lap for rack chins.

leg extentions burnouts


Bench day:
Floor press/incline press for low rep top set.

smith shoulder press/DB shoulder press 8-15 rep range or RP

Triceps-Will be either inhuman CGBP, smith reverse grip bench press or I might experiment with something else.

chest-fly variation of some sort

shoulder prehab

Deadlift day:

Deadlift-for low reps, might throw on chains or something but I think I need to keep DLing.

DB rows: I’ll be bringing duct tape to add some extra pounds for this cycle. 140+x20 I’m shooting for.

Lean back cable rows with a straight bar:
I feel these in my whole upper/mid back. huge fan so far. top set 8-12 rep range

GMS/rack pulls- 6-10 rep range, for low back strength and a big thick back. Will start out with GMs.
I want a 275xsomething GM asap.

Curl variations- I need to bring up my gunz. I’ll probably alternate around preachers, incline DB curls and cable curls.


Rep Bench day:
Smith or DB bench press. 8-15 rep top set or RP.

rear delt raises- 10+ reps top set

Shoulder prehab work

lifting MWF go through these four days and repeat.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Finally got my work times fixed.

for the next few weeks at least I will be doing:


Squat day:
Backsquat for a heavy top set. wrapped and belted

Glute hams-I really want to work my way up to being able to do these with a 45 pound plate.

Smith squats- will stay in the 8-15 rep range probably. Maybe higher. I want huge quads.

Lat pulldown/rack chin depends on whether I have a training partner to put the weight on my lap for rack chins.

leg extentions burnouts


Bench day:
Floor press/incline press for low rep top set.

smith shoulder press/DB shoulder press 8-15 rep range or RP

Triceps-Will be either inhuman CGBP, smith reverse grip bench press or I might experiment with something else.

chest-fly variation of some sort

shoulder prehab

Deadlift day:

Deadlift-for low reps, might throw on chains or something but I think I need to keep DLing.

DB rows: I’ll be bringing duct tape to add some extra pounds for this cycle. 140+x20 I’m shooting for.

Lean back cable rows with a straight bar:
I feel these in my whole upper/mid back. huge fan so far. top set 8-12 rep range

GMS/rack pulls- 6-10 rep range, for low back strength and a big thick back. Will start out with GMs.
I want a 275xsomething GM asap.

Curl variations- I need to bring up my gunz. I’ll probably alternate around preachers, incline DB curls and cable curls.


Rep Bench day:
Smith or DB bench press. 8-15 rep top set or RP.

rear delt raises- 10+ reps top set

Shoulder prehab work

lifting MWF go through these four days and repeat.[/quote]

Havent seen any board benching in your log?

[quote]BlackLabel wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Finally got my work times fixed.

for the next few weeks at least I will be doing:


Squat day:
Backsquat for a heavy top set. wrapped and belted

Glute hams-I really want to work my way up to being able to do these with a 45 pound plate.

Smith squats- will stay in the 8-15 rep range probably. Maybe higher. I want huge quads.

Lat pulldown/rack chin depends on whether I have a training partner to put the weight on my lap for rack chins.

leg extentions burnouts


Bench day:
Floor press/incline press for low rep top set.

smith shoulder press/DB shoulder press 8-15 rep range or RP

Triceps-Will be either inhuman CGBP, smith reverse grip bench press or I might experiment with something else.

chest-fly variation of some sort

shoulder prehab

Deadlift day:

Deadlift-for low reps, might throw on chains or something but I think I need to keep DLing.

DB rows: I’ll be bringing duct tape to add some extra pounds for this cycle. 140+x20 I’m shooting for.

Lean back cable rows with a straight bar:
I feel these in my whole upper/mid back. huge fan so far. top set 8-12 rep range

GMS/rack pulls- 6-10 rep range, for low back strength and a big thick back. Will start out with GMs.
I want a 275xsomething GM asap.

Curl variations- I need to bring up my gunz. I’ll probably alternate around preachers, incline DB curls and cable curls.


Rep Bench day:
Smith or DB bench press. 8-15 rep top set or RP.

rear delt raises- 10+ reps top set

Shoulder prehab work

lifting MWF go through these four days and repeat.

Havent seen any board benching in your log?[/quote]

I have no boards and I’m consistantly weak off my chest. I keep meaning to get around to making them but I just don’t feel like I need them right now.

Today:

Squat
worked up to 315x1 deeper then usual.No one to call my depth so I went with the lighter weight and made sure I hit depth.

glute hams
kept them light. After that big PR I’m just not feeling these right now. Mayube I shoudl rest more after squats.

Smith squats
105x10
195x12
225x7

These were very rough on the lower back. I took them absolutely ATG. My ass was literally an inch off the ground.

Lat pulldowns
worked up to
150x14PR
170x6PR

Leg extentions
worked up to
250x15PR

Today:

incline bench
135x3
155x3
175x3PR
185x0 miss

idk if I want to keep going with these or if I want to switch to floor presses?

DB shoulder press
20x10
30x10
40x10
50x7 bottom partials PR

reverse grip smith bench press
worked up to 165 13x6x4RP

Probably going to switch to a skull crusher type movement next week

machine flys for teh pumpz.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Today:

incline bench
135x3
155x3
175x3PR
185x0 miss

idk if I want to keep going with these or if I want to switch to floor presses?

DB shoulder press
20x10
30x10
40x10
50x7 bottom partials PR

reverse grip smith bench press
worked up to 165 13x6x4RP

Probably going to switch to a skull crusher type movement next week

machine flys for teh pumpz.[/quote]

floor presses are the shit dude

[quote]crod266 wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Today:

incline bench
135x3
155x3
175x3PR
185x0 miss

idk if I want to keep going with these or if I want to switch to floor presses?

DB shoulder press
20x10
30x10
40x10
50x7 bottom partials PR

reverse grip smith bench press
worked up to 165 13x6x4RP

Probably going to switch to a skull crusher type movement next week

machine flys for teh pumpz.

floor presses are the shit dude[/quote]

Yeah, I’ll probably do them for the next few weeks.

Friday WILL look like:

Deadlift: 435x1
DB rows:120x15
Lean back cable rows with a straight bar: 156x12+
GMS- 185x5+
Curl variations-
incline db curls
cable curls

Today:

deadlift:
worked up to and missed 430.

I think I need to change my warmups

Cable rows
168x7-8 idr

db rows
100x26

not enough duct tape lol

Good mornings
95x10
135x8
155x8
back nearly caved trying to do 175, gotta bring these up.

Cable abs: idr #s

incline curl
30x20
35x10

cable curls
90x15
130x5

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Today:

deadlift:
worked up to and missed 430.

I think I need to change my warmups

Cable rows
188x7-8 idr

db rows
100x26

not enough duct tape lol

Good mornings
95x10
135x8
155x8
back nearly caved trying to do 175, gotta bring these up.

Cable abs: idr #s

incline curl
30x20
35x10

cable curls
90x15
130x5[/quote]

100x26 is preety dam good esp if its with good form man i only get like 8 with ok form so thats preety damn good

[quote]crod266 wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Today:

deadlift:
worked up to and missed 430.

I think I need to change my warmups

Cable rows
188x7-8 idr

db rows
100x26

not enough duct tape lol

Good mornings
95x10
135x8
155x8
back nearly caved trying to do 175, gotta bring these up.

Cable abs: idr #s

incline curl
30x20
35x10

cable curls
90x15
130x5

100x26 is preety dam good esp if its with good form man i only get like 8 with ok form so thats preety damn good[/quote]

Decent form. I just wish I could add more weight to the db.

Zep, I hate to get all preachy. First off, your squat training has gone pretty damn well recently so I can’t get after you on that. Second, who the fuck am I to tell you what to do? But I don’t see anyone more experienced than me saying it so I’ll say it:

You’re missing a lot of lifts in training, especially in the Bench Press and Deadlift.
I’m guilty of it too. But since I’ve changed my training to address this in the past few weeks, if I’ve missed a lift in training I’ve been able to get it on another attempt. Yes, I have had sets where I didn’t do as well as I hoped, but that’s neither here nor there. The point is I haven’t had to endure the psychological stress of missing a weight or the physical stress of being buried by a weight and forced to do isometrics instead of make progress.

The reason WHY you’re missing lifts frequently seems pretty clear to me. You’re not doing using the Max Effort Method correctly.

If you want to use the Max Effort Method you need to understand a few rules:

(1) You only do 1* Max Effort Lower Body Day and 1 Max Effort Upper Body Day.

*If you are feeling good on a particularly sunny Dynamic Effort Squat Day, you may work up to a heavy double or single, but nothing that will have you wondering if you will make the weight or not. This should NOT interfere with your Max Effort Work. When you do this, you should only allow yourself to work up to weights that are above 90% of your max (at the top with all the tension and bands or whatever) once every 3-week wave. If you don’t feel like a Million Bucks, don’t work up!

(2) You MUST rotate the Max Effort Exercise. This is something I never see you do. It looks like all your training is Squats or Deadlifts every day. You MUST rotate exercises in order to keep the CNS from fatiguing. This is not bullshit. This is fact. Have a set rotation of 3 Squat and 3 Deadlift exercises that you will rotate between. This way you are only maxing out on the same exercise every 6 weeks. You don’t need to be creative to come up with Max Effort Exercises if all you have is a Rack and a Barbell. If you are a low-bar squatter, the difference between a low-bar squat and a Manta-Ray squat will be a sufficient change.

(3) You MUST perform adequate volume on Max Effort Day. Really, refer to Prilepin’s chart. On Max Effort Day you must perform 4-10 lifts above 90% of your max. 7 is optimal, but 4 total lifts above 90% of your max is probably the thing to do if one of those lifts was 100%. So keep in mind, once you’ve hit that PR, you’re still not done.

(4) This is my humble opinion, not really a rule: If you can’t move 315 in a given exercise, then you shouldn’t be training it with the Max Effort Method. I just don’t think the musculature is there to benefit from such a method of training.

There those are my rules. I know you don’t do any Dynamic Training, so here are some alternatives that strong people do:

(1) The Thinker uses what he calls the ‘SE’ method where he has a Max Effort Day, then he has a day where he does reps with weights in the 80-85% range.

(2) Matt Kroc alternates Max Effort with High Reps.

Week 1: Heavy Deadlifting on Sunday, not necessarily Maxing out. Olympic Squatting on thursday, reps usually never lower than 10.

Week 2: Back Extensions on Sunday, doesn’t look very taxing. Full Gear Squatting on Thrusday, usually working up to a single in either briefs, suit straps down, or suit straps up depending on how far out he is.

So please, for your own good, go forth and practice the Max Effort Method Correctly, or if you’d rather start training DC now, which I saw you suggest before, I don’t think anyone would tell you that you aren’t ready.

[quote]FightingScott wrote:
Zep, I hate to get all preachy. First off, your squat training has gone pretty damn well recently so I can’t get after you on that. Second, who the fuck am I to tell you what to do? But I don’t see anyone more experienced than me saying it so I’ll say it:

You’re missing a lot of lifts in training, especially in the Bench Press and Deadlift.
I’m guilty of it too. But since I’ve changed my training to address this in the past few weeks, if I’ve missed a lift in training I’ve been able to get it on another attempt. Yes, I have had sets where I didn’t do as well as I hoped, but that’s neither here nor there. The point is I haven’t had to endure the psychological stress of missing a weight or the physical stress of being buried by a weight and forced to do isometrics instead of make progress.

The reason WHY you’re missing lifts frequently seems pretty clear to me. You’re not doing using the Max Effort Method correctly.

If you want to use the Max Effort Method you need to understand a few rules:

(1) You only do 1* Max Effort Lower Body Day and 1 Max Effort Upper Body Day.

*If you are feeling good on a particularly sunny Dynamic Effort Squat Day, you may work up to a heavy double or single, but nothing that will have you wondering if you will make the weight or not. This should NOT interfere with your Max Effort Work. When you do this, you should only allow yourself to work up to weights that are above 90% of your max (at the top with all the tension and bands or whatever) once every 3-week wave. If you don’t feel like a Million Bucks, don’t work up!

(2) You MUST rotate the Max Effort Exercise. This is something I never see you do. It looks like all your training is Squats or Deadlifts every day. You MUST rotate exercises in order to keep the CNS from fatiguing. This is not bullshit. This is fact. Have a set rotation of 3 Squat and 3 Deadlift exercises that you will rotate between. This way you are only maxing out on the same exercise every 6 weeks. You don’t need to be creative to come up with Max Effort Exercises if all you have is a Rack and a Barbell. If you are a low-bar squatter, the difference between a low-bar squat and a Manta-Ray squat will be a sufficient change.

(3) You MUST perform adequate volume on Max Effort Day. Really, refer to Prilepin’s chart. On Max Effort Day you must perform 4-10 lifts above 90% of your max. 7 is optimal, but 4 total lifts above 90% of your max is probably the thing to do if one of those lifts was 100%. So keep in mind, once you’ve hit that PR, you’re still not done.

(4) This is my humble opinion, not really a rule: If you can’t move 315 in a given exercise, then you shouldn’t be training it with the Max Effort Method. I just don’t think the musculature is there to benefit from such a method of training.

There those are my rules. I know you don’t do any Dynamic Training, so here are some alternatives that strong people do:

(1) The Thinker uses what he calls the ‘SE’ method where he has a Max Effort Day, then he has a day where he does reps with weights in the 80-85% range.

(2) Matt Kroc alternates Max Effort with High Reps.

Week 1: Heavy Deadlifting on Sunday, not necessarily Maxing out. Olympic Squatting on thursday, reps usually never lower than 10.

Week 2: Back Extensions on Sunday, doesn’t look very taxing. Full Gear Squatting on Thrusday, usually working up to a single in either briefs, suit straps down, or suit straps up depending on how far out he is.

So please, for your own good, go forth and practice the Max Effort Method Correctly, or if you’d rather start training DC now, which I saw you suggest before, I don’t think anyone would tell you that you aren’t ready.
[/quote]

Fair points. I will start incorperating more volume into my training, however I feel the need to have a deadlift and a squat day. I now have a lot more recovery time with the 9 day week and I feel like I’m ready to make some progress.

Do you think that for example I should try to do 4-5 singles or doubles with 315 for squat and 405 for deadlift next week?

I do switch between box squats and squats, I have a manta ray thing in my gym but I never use it. I squat high bar and with a close stance for box squats and squats, what else would you think I should use? I’ve been switching every time I stall.

For deadlifts I could probably do RDL, deadlifts and platform deadlifts with chains. I do rack pulls or gms for assistance so I would keep those out of the ME rotation.

I’ll do chain platform deads next time I deadlift. And I’m gonna keep doing plain squats till I stall then find something else.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:

Fair points. I will start incorperating more volume into my training, however I feel the need to have a deadlift and a squat day. I now have a lot more recovery time with the 9 day week and I feel like I’m ready to make some progress.

Do you think that for example I should try to do 4-5 singles or doubles with 315 for squat and 405 for deadlift next week?

I do switch between box squats and squats, I have a manta ray thing in my gym but I never use it. I squat high bar and with a close stance for box squats and squats, what else would you think I should use? I’ve been switching every time I stall.

For deadlifts I could probably do RDL, deadlifts and platform deadlifts with chains. I do rack pulls or gms for assistance so I would keep those out of the ME rotation.

I’ll do chain platform deads next time I deadlift. And I’m gonna keep doing plain squats till I stall then find something else.[/quote]

I don’t know if the 9 day week is necessary. Here is what I would recommend for you if you aren’t going to do DoggCrapp.

Week A: Heavy Deadlift - Light Squat

Deadlift Day: If you are weak off the floor, max out on either Deadlifts, Sumo Deadlifts, Platform Deadlifts, or Platform Deadlifts with Chains.

Squat Day: Low Bar Parallel Box Squat or Low Bar Free Squat. Do a few warm-up sets with light weight and low reps. Then do a 10RM.

Week B: Light Deadlift - Heavy Squat

Deadlift Day: Work up to a 5RM on some sort of Good-Morning. If you have access to chains, I recommend you rig up chain-suspended Good-Mornings. After Good-Mornings, do Speed Deadlifts with chains and 55% of your Max. Do 6-10 singles. You may add weight if you can keep the speed, but speed is paramount.

Squat Day: Work up to a 5RM or 3RM on either Box Squats, Front Squats, Free Squats, Box Squats with Chains, or Mantay Ray Box Squats. Save maxing out for Deadlifts.

I wouldn’t do Rack Pulls or RDLs as assistance exercises since they can be very stressful. If you still want to tug on some heavy weight after your main event of the day, then just do more volume with that lift after you max out! If you DO decide to do Rack Pulls or RDLs as assistance exercises, save it for your Heavy Deadlift day so it does not interfere with your next heavy lower body day.

But more importantly, I would caution you to stop using the Max Effort Method altogether for Benching. Don’t do anything with less than 6 reps. If you want to get good at Benching a Barbell, then do Pressing exercises with a Barbell. If you want to get good with Dumbbells, use dumbbells.

[quote]FightingScott wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:

Fair points. I will start incorperating more volume into my training, however I feel the need to have a deadlift and a squat day. I now have a lot more recovery time with the 9 day week and I feel like I’m ready to make some progress.

Do you think that for example I should try to do 4-5 singles or doubles with 315 for squat and 405 for deadlift next week?

I do switch between box squats and squats, I have a manta ray thing in my gym but I never use it. I squat high bar and with a close stance for box squats and squats, what else would you think I should use? I’ve been switching every time I stall.

For deadlifts I could probably do RDL, deadlifts and platform deadlifts with chains. I do rack pulls or gms for assistance so I would keep those out of the ME rotation.

I’ll do chain platform deads next time I deadlift. And I’m gonna keep doing plain squats till I stall then find something else.

I don’t know if the 9 day week is necessary. Here is what I would recommend for you if you aren’t going to do DoggCrapp.

Week A: Heavy Deadlift - Light Squat

Deadlift Day: If you are weak off the floor, max out on either Deadlifts, Sumo Deadlifts, Platform Deadlifts, or Platform Deadlifts with Chains.

Squat Day: Low Bar Parallel Box Squat or Low Bar Free Squat. Do a few warm-up sets with light weight and low reps. Then do a 10RM.

Week B: Light Deadlift - Heavy Squat

Deadlift Day: Work up to a 5RM on some sort of Good-Morning. If you have access to chains, I recommend you rig up chain-suspended Good-Mornings. After Good-Mornings, do Speed Deadlifts with chains and 55% of your Max. Do 6-10 singles. You may add weight if you can keep the speed, but speed is paramount.

Squat Day: Work up to a 5RM or 3RM on either Box Squats, Front Squats, Free Squats, Box Squats with Chains, or Mantay Ray Box Squats. Save maxing out for Deadlifts.

I wouldn’t do Rack Pulls or RDLs as assistance exercises since they can be very stressful. If you still want to tug on some heavy weight after your main event of the day, then just do more volume with that lift after you max out! If you DO decide to do Rack Pulls or RDLs as assistance exercises, save it for your Heavy Deadlift day so it does not interfere with your next heavy lower body day.

But more importantly, I would caution you to stop using the Max Effort Method altogether for Benching. Don’t do anything with less than 6 reps. If you want to get good at Benching a Barbell, then do Pressing exercises with a Barbell. If you want to get good with Dumbbells, use dumbbells. [/quote]

I appreciate it, but I will be sticking with the 9 day week at least until my meets are over with. I feel like this layout has a lot of potential. I’m also confused at what you mean with the benching? You don’t think I should be doing ME pressing AND RE dumbell/smith pressing? I use the dbs/smith because they are a lot less harsh on my shoulders (which I’ve had problems with) and lets me have more frequent pressing. The rack pulls and GMS are for for a top set with moderate-high reps, I understand they are hard on the CNS but that’s the best part of the 9 day week, I can get away with that because I have more recovery time.

still kinda confused what you mean with the benching part.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
I’m also confused at what you mean with the benching? You don’t think I should be doing ME pressing AND RE dumbell/smith pressing? I use the dbs/smith because they are a lot less harsh on my shoulders (which I’ve had problems with) and lets me have more frequent pressing. The rack pulls and GMS are for for a top set with moderate-high reps, I understand they are hard on the CNS but that’s the best part of the 9 day week, I can get away with that because I have more recovery time.

still kinda confused what you mean with the benching part.[/quote]

See, I don’t think you are getting away with it. You hit 405X2 at the end of September and you haven’t pulled anything heavier than that in the past 6 weeks. There’s a big difference in terms of whole body stress when you compare a Good-Morning with 40% of your squat to a Rack Pull with 90-120% of your deadlift.

As for the benching, I’m suggesting just dropping Max Effort Work altogether. Use nothing but the repetition method. If you’re having shoulder problems, the LAST thing you should be doing is Incline Bench Press with near maximal weights.

Floor Press, Dumbbells, Smith Machines, Foam Press, Board Press, Press off the soft cranium of a newborn. Do whatever you feel you need to do in order to keep your shoulders healthy.

[quote]FightingScott wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
I’m also confused at what you mean with the benching? You don’t think I should be doing ME pressing AND RE dumbell/smith pressing? I use the dbs/smith because they are a lot less harsh on my shoulders (which I’ve had problems with) and lets me have more frequent pressing. The rack pulls and GMS are for for a top set with moderate-high reps, I understand they are hard on the CNS but that’s the best part of the 9 day week, I can get away with that because I have more recovery time.

still kinda confused what you mean with the benching part.

See, I don’t think you are getting away with it. You hit 405X2 at the end of September and you haven’t pulled anything heavier than that in the past 6 weeks. There’s a big difference in terms of whole body stress when you compare a Good-Morning with 40% of your squat to a Rack Pull with 90-120% of your deadlift.

As for the benching, I’m suggesting just dropping Max Effort Work altogether. Use nothing but the repetition method. If you’re having shoulder problems, the LAST thing you should be doing is Incline Bench Press with near maximal weights.

Floor Press, Dumbbells, Smith Machines, Foam Press, Board Press, Press off the soft cranium of a newborn. Do whatever you feel you need to do in order to keep your shoulders healthy. [/quote]

the thing is my rack pull is nowhere near my deadlift. I think the heaviest rack pull I ever did was 365x8. I think I’ll take out RDL from the rotation and do rack pulls instead. I’ll use back extentions for assistance work when my GM stalls out.

My shoulder oddly feels fine with the inclines. In fact I could do db inclines and bb floor presses relatively painlessly when my tendonitis was at it’s worst. I feel fine doing them with a barbell, but flat barbell benching is still a problem.

I need to start making new ground on excercises not just going for new weights all the time, which is what you said.