Zephead's Log

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:

Also, about the front raises… If they hurt your shoulder, do them a different way or drop them. Not liking an exercise is fine (who likes to do 20-50 rep breathing squats?) and doing it anyway, but if it gets you hurt, what’s the point?

Do you think that 40 lbs front raises are going to make your front delts as big as seated overhead presses with 120 pound db’s would? [/quote]

side and front raise are exercises that seem to have a plateau. You progress to a certain point before you can’t add weight without excessive cheating or succumb to injury. The most I ever did on the side raise was with 40 lb dbs. Sure you could drop the weight and continue to add reps instead, but I don’t think that’s how you or I train. And considering how you had shoulder problems already, I would shy away from them unless you’re warming up.

OH press is really the way to go for long term progression. I don’t have any medical or physiological evidence of why this is, just experience.

[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:

Also, about the front raises… If they hurt your shoulder, do them a different way or drop them. Not liking an exercise is fine (who likes to do 20-50 rep breathing squats?) and doing it anyway, but if it gets you hurt, what’s the point?

Do you think that 40 lbs front raises are going to make your front delts as big as seated overhead presses with 120 pound db’s would?

side and front raise are exercises that seem to have a plateau. You progress to a certain point before you can’t add weight without excessive cheating or succumb to injury. The most I ever did on the side raise was with 40 lb dbs. Sure you could drop the weight and continue to add reps instead, but I don’t think that’s how you or I train. And considering how you had shoulder problems already, I would shy away from them unless you’re warming up.

OH press is really the way to go for long term progression. I don’t have any medical or physiological evidence of why this is, just experience. [/quote]

I keep typing side raises, but I’m doing a rear delt fly sort of deal. I don’t know if there is any real difference, but I would like to point that out.

ALSO:

doing 5/3/1 for bench and deadlift, maybe squat eventually if I stall out.

Today, felt pretty weak:

Dumbell bench
warmup
70x6
60x10

Machine flys
140x15
150x12

Rack chins
me+ 30 15x12x8 RP

rear delt db flys
25x10
35x8
30x12

Pinwheels (my bis were burnt of from the chins
60 16x14x12 RP

Preachers:
warmup
75x7 no pr on these.

a pretty weak day overall.

I can’t lift tomarow, I’m leaving town for the weekend right after school.

Bench:

no spotter, did some moderate rep work not done to failure. I wasn’t about to ask the emo kid next to me benching ~120 pounds to spot me.

Smith shoulder press:
105x10
125 13x4x2 PR

Reverse grip smith bench (closer grip then before, much harder. Will keep this style)

105x10
155 9x3x1 one less rep on the first RP set then last week, but like I said earlier I used a closer grip by several inches, and it hit my tris way harder.

fuck I forgot:

machine flys
110x20
150x13

internal rotations
50x20 each side
external rotations
30x20 each side

Today:
boxsquat:
225x3
275x3
wraps+ belt
315x1
345x1 PR +10 pounds

Glute hams
mex20 PR reps
me+10x12

rack chins (no partner, getting weight into place was a hassle, burned me out before I even got started)

mex10
me+30x16
me+40x6 (I was fucking burned out)

Leg press:
4 platesx5
6 plates x5
wraps
8 platesx5
9 platesx15

leg extentions:
130x30
150x20
170x15

legs were quivering as I stumbled out of the weightroom.

I love leg day.

boxsquat
295x5+
315x3+
350x1
245x5+

week 2
310x5+
330x3+
365x1
255x5+

bench
185x5+
195x3+
215x1
150x5+

week 2
190x5+
105x3+
225x1
160x5+

my plan for the 2 months

wide stance box squat when I started this log
225x5
wide stance allows for quite a bit more weight. This, may even have been in a suit, deffinately belt/wraps.

Now:
345x1 PR +10 pounds belt/wraps no suit

hoping to get as close to a 450 suited squat as possible by late december. I may have ot start hitting abs again. I fucking hate abs. I feel like such a bitch doing them, and they are really hard to add resistance too.

I’m thinking:

Monday:
ME bench variation
smith shoulder press
smith triceps
machine fly
external+internal rotations

Tuesday:
ME squat variation
leg press RP or SS
rack chins RP or SS
leg extentions 15-30 rep range
abs

Thursday:
dumbell or smith machine work RP or SS
machine flys 10-20 rep range
db rear delt flys
external+internal rotations

Friday:
ME deadlift variation
SLDL 6-10 rep range
glute hams
DB row
cable row
pinwheel curls RP
curl variation

hella lots of volume. I need to gain as much muscle/strength as possible for my first equipped meet this year in last december. I’m not going to bother dieting for the raw one before it.

Goals:
450 squat single ply
475 deadlift raw (or in a squat suit, can’t afford a dl suit lol)
Bench: 275

I’ll start slowly dieting down halfway through november, or closer to december. I’ll have to lose ~15 pounds to make 181.

I’ll smash these numbers by my last meet.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Today:
boxsquat:
225x3
275x3
wraps+ belt
315x1
345x1 PR +10 pounds

Glute hams
mex20 PR reps
me+10x12

rack chins (no partner, getting weight into place was a hassle, burned me out before I even got started)

mex10
me+30x16
me+40x6 (I was fucking burned out)

Leg press:
4 platesx5
6 plates x5
wraps
8 platesx5
9 platesx15

leg extentions:
130x30
150x20
170x15

legs were quivering as I stumbled out of the weightroom.

I love leg day.[/quote]

zep, im guessing 9 plates on the leg press is 9 all together right?Not 9 per side

[quote]crod266 wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Today:
boxsquat:
225x3
275x3
wraps+ belt
315x1
345x1 PR +10 pounds

Glute hams
mex20 PR reps
me+10x12

rack chins (no partner, getting weight into place was a hassle, burned me out before I even got started)

mex10
me+30x16
me+40x6 (I was fucking burned out)

Leg press:
4 platesx5
6 plates x5
wraps
8 platesx5
9 platesx15

leg extentions:
130x30
150x20
170x15

legs were quivering as I stumbled out of the weightroom.

I love leg day.

zep, im guessing 9 plates on the leg press is 9 all together right?Not 9 per side[/quote]

nope, 9 per side. your leg press may be different then mine, so it’s hard to compare them.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
crod266 wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Today:
boxsquat:
225x3
275x3
wraps+ belt
315x1
345x1 PR +10 pounds

Glute hams
mex20 PR reps
me+10x12

rack chins (no partner, getting weight into place was a hassle, burned me out before I even got started)

mex10
me+30x16
me+40x6 (I was fucking burned out)

Leg press:
4 platesx5
6 plates x5
wraps
8 platesx5
9 platesx15

leg extentions:
130x30
150x20
170x15

legs were quivering as I stumbled out of the weightroom.

I love leg day.

zep, im guessing 9 plates on the leg press is 9 all together right?Not 9 per side

nope, 9 per side. your leg press may be different then mine, so it’s hard to compare them.[/quote]

o ok ya if u used 9 plates on a side for the one i use well i wud prob have to bow down to u haha

[quote]crod266 wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
crod266 wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Today:
boxsquat:
225x3
275x3
wraps+ belt
315x1
345x1 PR +10 pounds

Glute hams
mex20 PR reps
me+10x12

rack chins (no partner, getting weight into place was a hassle, burned me out before I even got started)

mex10
me+30x16
me+40x6 (I was fucking burned out)

Leg press:
4 platesx5
6 plates x5
wraps
8 platesx5
9 platesx15

leg extentions:
130x30
150x20
170x15

legs were quivering as I stumbled out of the weightroom.

I love leg day.

zep, im guessing 9 plates on the leg press is 9 all together right?Not 9 per side

nope, 9 per side. your leg press may be different then mine, so it’s hard to compare them.

o ok ya if u used 9 plates on a side for the one i use well i wud prob have to bow down to u haha[/quote]

I also only go to squat depth, I don’t bring my knees to my chest. That makes my butt go forward, rounding my lower back.

Smith flat bench
105x10
155x20
195x3 (I thought I would be able to get more)

Machine fly
worked up to 180x12, iirc

rear delt flys
30x10
40x6
35x12

Internal+external rotations.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Smith flat bench
105x10
155x20
195x3 (I thought I would be able to get more)

Machine fly
worked up to 180x12, iirc

rear delt flys
30x10
40x6
35x12

Internal+external rotations.[/quote]

What happened to 5/3/1?

Bro, not knocking you or anything, but the bench seems to not be going up, what’s good with that? You ever try switching up the routine, maybe take a break from all the low rep stuff, maybe hit the 6-8 rep range for a few weeks and then take it back down form there. Just a suggestion, its worked well for me.

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Bro, not knocking you or anything, but the bench seems to not be going up, what’s good with that?

You ever try switching up the routine, maybe take a break from all the low rep stuff, maybe hit the 6-8 rep range for a few weeks and then take it back down form there. Just a suggestion, its worked well for me.[/quote]

I second that, maybe even through in a few dumbell workouts.

[quote]FightingScott wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Smith flat bench
105x10
155x20
195x3 (I thought I would be able to get more)

Machine fly
worked up to 180x12, iirc

rear delt flys
30x10
40x6
35x12

Internal+external rotations.

What happened to 5/3/1?[/quote]

That starts on monday, and only on my monday bench day.

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Bro, not knocking you or anything, but the bench seems to not be going up, what’s good with that? You ever try switching up the routine, maybe take a break from all the low rep stuff, maybe hit the 6-8 rep range for a few weeks and then take it back down form there. Just a suggestion, its worked well for me.[/quote]

I’ve been really thinking about that a lot. I start 5/3/1 on my ME bench day, monday.

[quote]TheBig3 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Bro, not knocking you or anything, but the bench seems to not be going up, what’s good with that? You ever try switching up the routine, maybe take a break from all the low rep stuff, maybe hit the 6-8 rep range for a few weeks and then take it back down form there. Just a suggestion, its worked well for me.

I second that, maybe even through in a few dumbell workouts.[/quote]

I’ve been doing dumbells on my RE day, this was my first time trying the smith for RE day.