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Eating is such a huge part of socializing that refusing to partake every single time is the social equivalent of wearing clown pants. Sucks for clean eaters but that’s the reality. You either have to suck it up and take a sliver of the shared dessert or accept the harassment. It’s been that way for all of history and it isn’t going to change now. Or keep on telling the people in the room you’re trying to bond with their traditions are disgusting :stuck_out_tongue:

One woman I work with takes the piece of whatever dessert back to her desk. Then she gives it to me :smiley: Or she declines sometimes. No one even notices that she NEVER eats it. Except me, of course.

But if you’re confident in what you’re doing then just don’t worry about it. I did that for a good chunk of time when I was dropping a lot of fat. The ability to mock people back (playfully!) who poke fun at you is a good skill. 9 times out of ten there isn’t any malice intended anyhow. And the other time, who cares.

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Initially I got bad feedback from most family, but these days they’re almost entirely supportive.

I get a good amount of people who are all “Omg that’s so gross you’re too big and bumpy” when they see posing pics and stuff, but I don’t think I’ve EVER gotten a negative response IRL, in person, as to my physique. [/quote]

Ha! I’d be happy to be as big and bumpy as you are. [/quote]

tweet tweet[/quote]

gawddammit that damn tweet tweet doesnt need to catch on

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[quote]debraD wrote:
Eating is such a huge part of socializing that refusing to partake every single time is the social equivalent of wearing clown pants. Sucks for clean eaters but that’s the reality. You either have to suck it up and take a sliver of the shared dessert or accept the harassment. It’s been that way for all of history and it isn’t going to change now. Or keep on telling the people in the room you’re trying to bond with their traditions are disgusting :stuck_out_tongue:

One woman I work with takes the piece of whatever dessert back to her desk. Then she gives it to me :smiley: Or she declines sometimes. No one even notices that she NEVER eats it. Except me, of course.

But if you’re confident in what you’re doing then just don’t worry about it. I did that for a good chunk of time when I was dropping a lot of fat. The ability to mock people back (playfully!) who poke fun at you is a good skill. 9 times out of ten there isn’t any malice intended anyhow. And the other time, who cares.[/quote]

I learned hill sprints works wonderfully, but I burn like I have a fever 24/7 so it might be different for the ladies.

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[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Initially I got bad feedback from most family, but these days they’re almost entirely supportive.

I get a good amount of people who are all “Omg that’s so gross you’re too big and bumpy” when they see posing pics and stuff, but I don’t think I’ve EVER gotten a negative response IRL, in person, as to my physique. [/quote]

Ha! I’d be happy to be as big and bumpy as you are. [/quote]

tweet tweet[/quote]

gawddammit that damn tweet tweet doesnt need to catch on[/quote]

That’s the problem, mate?

tweet tweet

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[quote]debraD wrote:
Eating is such a huge part of socializing that refusing to partake every single time is the social equivalent of wearing clown pants. Sucks for clean eaters but that’s the reality. You either have to suck it up and take a sliver of the shared dessert or accept the harassment. It’s been that way for all of history and it isn’t going to change now. Or keep on telling the people in the room you’re trying to bond with their traditions are disgusting :stuck_out_tongue:

One woman I work with takes the piece of whatever dessert back to her desk. Then she gives it to me :smiley: Or she declines sometimes. No one even notices that she NEVER eats it. Except me, of course.

But if you’re confident in what you’re doing then just don’t worry about it. I did that for a good chunk of time when I was dropping a lot of fat. The ability to mock people back (playfully!) who poke fun at you is a good skill. 9 times out of ten there isn’t any malice intended anyhow. And the other time, who cares.[/quote]

Always seem to be full of some good words of wisdom debraD.

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[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Found this great post on a friend of mine’s fat loss blog. It’s so very true.

To summarize in case you don’t feel like reading it, it’s basically saying that it’s ass-backwards that people who make any kind of positive physique transformation are more often criticized by their peers than encouraged…i.e “you have a disorder,” “you need to chill out with the exericise,” etc…

So when’s the last time you heard, “you don’t need to workout, you already look fine” or some retarded variation of it? And how fat/out of shape was the person who said it? [/quote]

Usually the people that criticize and demean people for making great body transformations are the same people that worship crap like P90X and Jillian Michaels. Why does ridiculous and dangerous training inspire people when legitimate training and real-world transformations have the opposite effect?[/quote]

Really? So, people losing weight and exercising in a different manner than you constitutes ridiculous and dangerous and can not be considered real-world body transformation? You make no sense chief. Enough people have had positive results using both these methods to attain the goals they seek to validate that it DOES work.

Get your head out of your ass and stop attacking things that happen to be different than what you do.

This shit always drives me crazy. Whaaaa P90X is crap … Whaaaa Biggest Loser is bs … Whaaa Crossfit is a cult

STFU and do you man. There are different goals and different life styles in this world. Shit even in the weight lifting game there are different ways of attaining the same goal that are equally efficient … [/quote]

I was about to say the same thing. If you haven’t tried the plyo P90X workout give it a try and then comment. That shit is rough. [/quote]

I’d love to try the “plyo” workout… except for the fact that it isn’t actually a plyo workout. Jumping around like a jackass for an hour does not constitute plyometric training. The last time I checked, a plyo workout is not supposed to be metabolically taxing. It is supposed to train you to maximize the efficiency of the stretch-shortening cycle. Who said anything about cross-fit, anyway? I don’t have a problem with cross-fit, only the 95% of people who have no business training with that style because they haven’t even mastered the basics of squatting and deadlifting. And how can you defend Jillian Michaels or anything that goes on on that show? It’s disgustingly misleading bullshit. Do you need me to post the 1000 articles written by people like Mike Boyle and Chris Mohr and Coach Dos about the subject, or do you just want me to post her butchering a kettlebell “instruction” DVD? [/quote]

Okay if it doesn’t fit the text book or your definition of a plyo workout then I guess it has no merit what so ever right? If I was a pro athlete would I do the p90x plyo workout? No. If I am in my mid 20’s and want to stay in shape while trying to get bigger and stronger will I do the cardiovascular jumping p90x workout? Yes. My point is that not only is the workout hard, but it is useful when trying to lose or maintain lean body mass.

As far as the other crap goes…if it helps fat people lose weight I say go for it. You can’t seriously tell me no one has benefited from a Jillian Micahael’s workout. If she sucked that bad people wouldn’t waste their money. Same with a guy like Richard Simmons. Would he help most of the people on this site? Probably not, but can he help some demographic? Yes. [/quote]

Overweight, out of shape, and weak people have no business jumping. Injury risk is through the roof. I’ve met 100x more people who get hurt following P90X than have success stories. Do you know how many foot contacts are recommended for a beginner’s or an elite athlete’s plyo workout? Do you know how many foot contacts are performed in the P90X “plyo” workout? It blows both of them away to levels of ridiculousness. Do you know what the recommendations are for how much external loading somebody can handle relative to that person’s body weight before starting any kind of jumping? My guess is 99% of all people should not touch that DVD with a 15 foot pole.

Furthermore, good MARKETING is all you need to sell products to the masses. Good PRODUCTS are what you need to gain respect from experts in the industry. Guess who is the most hated person by professionals in the industry right now? Jillian Michaels.

Thanks jskrabac for backing me up on this one.
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Dude I get what you are saying, but there is risk in everything you do in life. I believe it is a worse for a fat person to stay on the couch because they might hurt their foot instead of trying something, a structured program, that has the potential to help them lose weight. The biggest problem most people have is they lack commitment. If a person commits to anyone of the mentioned programs it would improve their health and reduce fat. If Joe Defranco created a program and gave it 10 test subjects and they all stopped after day 5 and then said it was a crap program would you believe then?

Also one of you commented about newbie gains and again I see your point, but we aren’t talking about people that care if they have 12" arms or 18" arms or a 100lb bench or a 400lb bench. These are people that have no training what so ever and are probably not going to become the next Mr. Olympia contested. What they do have is a desire to be healthier. Are they being takin advantage of, in some instances sure, but I still don’t believe at this point with social media the way that it is that people that get 0 results are still in business.

Edit: okay I’ll stop I see the conversation has moved on…late to the party as usual damn wife takes to long to get ready again.

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[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:

[quote]Hallowed wrote:
The people that tell me I am “obsessed” “crazy” “unhealthy”
Are invariably fat to super fat.[/quote]

“obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated” -one of my favorite quotes.[/quote]

garry frank

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[quote]debraD wrote:
Eating is such a huge part of socializing that refusing to partake every single time is the social equivalent of wearing clown pants. Sucks for clean eaters but that’s the reality. You either have to suck it up and take a sliver of the shared dessert or accept the harassment. It’s been that way for all of history and it isn’t going to change now. Or keep on telling the people in the room you’re trying to bond with their traditions are disgusting :stuck_out_tongue:

One woman I work with takes the piece of whatever dessert back to her desk. Then she gives it to me :smiley: Or she declines sometimes. No one even notices that she NEVER eats it. Except me, of course.

But if you’re confident in what you’re doing then just don’t worry about it. I did that for a good chunk of time when I was dropping a lot of fat. The ability to mock people back (playfully!) who poke fun at you is a good skill. 9 times out of ten there isn’t any malice intended anyhow. And the other time, who cares.[/quote]

I mean yeah, I could take some food once in a while, but I choose to save my cheating for the weekend. Of course this is a concept that could never be explained in public.

I don’t mind when people give me shit, it’s just my boss that pisses me off. This dude has been in the office adjacent to mine for three years and he still reacts with shock and awe every time I turn down a slice of apple pie. HOW IS THIS STILL SURPRISING TO YOU?

Maybe I have teh creatine roid rage.

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Taking a piece and then not eating it does usually work.

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Luckily, most of the people who I hang around with are athletes or understand athletes and don’t bother me at all about my lifting and eating. However, my grandma is one that keeps trying to get me to eat more than I need to right now. It’s wrestling season, and I do miss food; however, she does not understand “why I am working so hard.”

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[quote]debraD wrote:
My cousin called me a skinny bitch and said she wants to claw my eyes out. And then I was supposed to LOLOLOL. Which I didn’t, because it kind of sucked.

Generally though, I get a lot of positive comments because I eat a lot but people know I run and lift to earn it, and that’s usually what their comments centre around. The office ladies often make inappropriate but complementary comments about my figure. I limit my time around assholes like my cousin. Sometimes you work with people like her so it’s difficult but luckily I don’t.

The occasional BITCH! comment in jest isn’t usually a backhanded compliment, just playing around. [/quote]

Holy fuck, you have one HOT body.

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true story

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I don’t even bother to justify myself. People comment on how clean I eat, and how I am missing out on the fun in life when I turn down ice cream and pie. Sometimes people act like I am actively offending them. I believe this is because my refusal to eat junk makes them feel bad about their own decision, and they get angry because of it.

These people need to realize that I am not on a diet, it is simply a life style and part of who I am.

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[quote]lnname wrote:

true story[/quote]

That was one of the best videos I’ve ever seen.

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[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Found this great post on a friend of mine’s fat loss blog. It’s so very true.

To summarize in case you don’t feel like reading it, it’s basically saying that it’s ass-backwards that people who make any kind of positive physique transformation are more often criticized by their peers than encouraged…i.e “you have a disorder,” “you need to chill out with the exericise,” etc…

So when’s the last time you heard, “you don’t need to workout, you already look fine” or some retarded variation of it? And how fat/out of shape was the person who said it? [/quote]

Usually the people that criticize and demean people for making great body transformations are the same people that worship crap like P90X and Jillian Michaels. Why does ridiculous and dangerous training inspire people when legitimate training and real-world transformations have the opposite effect?[/quote]

whos Jillian Michaels?

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[quote]jhng wrote:

[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Found this great post on a friend of mine’s fat loss blog. It’s so very true.

To summarize in case you don’t feel like reading it, it’s basically saying that it’s ass-backwards that people who make any kind of positive physique transformation are more often criticized by their peers than encouraged…i.e “you have a disorder,” “you need to chill out with the exericise,” etc…

So when’s the last time you heard, “you don’t need to workout, you already look fine” or some retarded variation of it? And how fat/out of shape was the person who said it? [/quote]

Usually the people that criticize and demean people for making great body transformations are the same people that worship crap like P90X and Jillian Michaels. Why does ridiculous and dangerous training inspire people when legitimate training and real-world transformations have the opposite effect?[/quote]

whos Jillian Michaels?
[/quote]

Where the hell are you from?

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[quote]grayman19 wrote:
I don’t even bother to justify myself. People comment on how clean I eat, and how I am missing out on the fun in life when I turn down ice cream and pie. Sometimes people act like I am actively offending them. I believe this is because my refusal to eat junk makes them feel bad about their own decision, and they get angry because of it.

These people need to realize that I am not on a diet, it is simply a life style and part of who I am. [/quote]

I get this over alcohol and this time of year is the worst. In the fall I had a company retreat, which was very cool until the first night rolled around and everyone got drunk but me. People don’t seem to understand that I don’t drink, period. I’ve learned to come up with all kinds of excuses, right down to it makes me very sick, and I’m still getting glasses of wine shoved into my hand. It’s come to the point that as much as I’d like to attend events for the social aspect, many times I don’t bother because I hate having to explain why I don’t want a drink.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]jhng wrote:

[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Found this great post on a friend of mine’s fat loss blog. It’s so very true.

To summarize in case you don’t feel like reading it, it’s basically saying that it’s ass-backwards that people who make any kind of positive physique transformation are more often criticized by their peers than encouraged…i.e “you have a disorder,” “you need to chill out with the exericise,” etc…

So when’s the last time you heard, “you don’t need to workout, you already look fine” or some retarded variation of it? And how fat/out of shape was the person who said it? [/quote]

Usually the people that criticize and demean people for making great body transformations are the same people that worship crap like P90X and Jillian Michaels. Why does ridiculous and dangerous training inspire people when legitimate training and real-world transformations have the opposite effect?[/quote]

whos Jillian Michaels?
[/quote]

Where the hell are you from?[/quote]

Singapore, but nvm I chk her out on google, Never ever watch an episode of “the biggest loser” (Dun really watch TV or cable in this case), so u have to pardon me on this one.

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[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Found this great post on a friend of mine’s fat loss blog. It’s so very true.

To summarize in case you don’t feel like reading it, it’s basically saying that it’s ass-backwards that people who make any kind of positive physique transformation are more often criticized by their peers than encouraged…i.e “you have a disorder,” “you need to chill out with the exericise,” etc…

So when’s the last time you heard, “you don’t need to workout, you already look fine” or some retarded variation of it? And how fat/out of shape was the person who said it? [/quote]

Usually the people that criticize and demean people for making great body transformations are the same people that worship crap like P90X and Jillian Michaels. Why does ridiculous and dangerous training inspire people when legitimate training and real-world transformations have the opposite effect?[/quote]

Really? So, people losing weight and exercising in a different manner than you constitutes ridiculous and dangerous and can not be considered real-world body transformation? You make no sense chief. Enough people have had positive results using both these methods to attain the goals they seek to validate that it DOES work.

Get your head out of your ass and stop attacking things that happen to be different than what you do.

This shit always drives me crazy. Whaaaa P90X is crap … Whaaaa Biggest Loser is bs … Whaaa Crossfit is a cult

STFU and do you man. There are different goals and different life styles in this world. Shit even in the weight lifting game there are different ways of attaining the same goal that are equally efficient … [/quote]

I was about to say the same thing. If you haven’t tried the plyo P90X workout give it a try and then comment. That shit is rough. [/quote]

I’d love to try the “plyo” workout… except for the fact that it isn’t actually a plyo workout. Jumping around like a jackass for an hour does not constitute plyometric training. The last time I checked, a plyo workout is not supposed to be metabolically taxing. It is supposed to train you to maximize the efficiency of the stretch-shortening cycle. Who said anything about cross-fit, anyway? I don’t have a problem with cross-fit, only the 95% of people who have no business training with that style because they haven’t even mastered the basics of squatting and deadlifting. And how can you defend Jillian Michaels or anything that goes on on that show? It’s disgustingly misleading bullshit. Do you need me to post the 1000 articles written by people like Mike Boyle and Chris Mohr and Coach Dos about the subject, or do you just want me to post her butchering a kettlebell “instruction” DVD? [/quote]

Okay if it doesn’t fit the text book or your definition of a plyo workout then I guess it has no merit what so ever right? If I was a pro athlete would I do the p90x plyo workout? No. If I am in my mid 20’s and want to stay in shape while trying to get bigger and stronger will I do the cardiovascular jumping p90x workout? Yes. My point is that not only is the workout hard, but it is useful when trying to lose or maintain lean body mass.

As far as the other crap goes…if it helps fat people lose weight I say go for it. You can’t seriously tell me no one has benefited from a Jillian Micahael’s workout. If she sucked that bad people wouldn’t waste their money. Same with a guy like Richard Simmons. Would he help most of the people on this site? Probably not, but can he help some demographic? Yes. [/quote]

Overweight, out of shape, and weak people have no business jumping. Injury risk is through the roof. I’ve met 100x more people who get hurt following P90X than have success stories. Do you know how many foot contacts are recommended for a beginner’s or an elite athlete’s plyo workout? Do you know how many foot contacts are performed in the P90X “plyo” workout? It blows both of them away to levels of ridiculousness. Do you know what the recommendations are for how much external loading somebody can handle relative to that person’s body weight before starting any kind of jumping? My guess is 99% of all people should not touch that DVD with a 15 foot pole.

Furthermore, good MARKETING is all you need to sell products to the masses. Good PRODUCTS are what you need to gain respect from experts in the industry. Guess who is the most hated person by professionals in the industry right now? Jillian Michaels.

Thanks jskrabac for backing me up on this one.
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Oooo I see why you hate this stuff … you assume only overweigth, out of shape, or weak people use it! Gotcha.

None-the-less … You do realize that fitness assessments are recommended by the creators of these programs correct? They also advice if they do not meet the requirements for their program they recommend safe way to achieve the requirements?

I’m wondering if you’ve actually ever seen these videos or if you only spout of the same dogmatic bs you’ve read other ignorant people rant and rave about.

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[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Found this great post on a friend of mine’s fat loss blog. It’s so very true.

To summarize in case you don’t feel like reading it, it’s basically saying that it’s ass-backwards that people who make any kind of positive physique transformation are more often criticized by their peers than encouraged…i.e “you have a disorder,” “you need to chill out with the exericise,” etc…

So when’s the last time you heard, “you don’t need to workout, you already look fine” or some retarded variation of it? And how fat/out of shape was the person who said it? [/quote]

Usually the people that criticize and demean people for making great body transformations are the same people that worship crap like P90X and Jillian Michaels. Why does ridiculous and dangerous training inspire people when legitimate training and real-world transformations have the opposite effect?[/quote]

Really? So, people losing weight and exercising in a different manner than you constitutes ridiculous and dangerous and can not be considered real-world body transformation? You make no sense chief. Enough people have had positive results using both these methods to attain the goals they seek to validate that it DOES work.

Get your head out of your ass and stop attacking things that happen to be different than what you do.

This shit always drives me crazy. Whaaaa P90X is crap … Whaaaa Biggest Loser is bs … Whaaa Crossfit is a cult

STFU and do you man. There are different goals and different life styles in this world. Shit even in the weight lifting game there are different ways of attaining the same goal that are equally efficient … [/quote]

I was about to say the same thing. If you haven’t tried the plyo P90X workout give it a try and then comment. That shit is rough. [/quote]

I’d love to try the “plyo” workout… except for the fact that it isn’t actually a plyo workout. Jumping around like a jackass for an hour does not constitute plyometric training. The last time I checked, a plyo workout is not supposed to be metabolically taxing. It is supposed to train you to maximize the efficiency of the stretch-shortening cycle. Who said anything about cross-fit, anyway? I don’t have a problem with cross-fit, only the 95% of people who have no business training with that style because they haven’t even mastered the basics of squatting and deadlifting. And how can you defend Jillian Michaels or anything that goes on on that show? It’s disgustingly misleading bullshit. Do you need me to post the 1000 articles written by people like Mike Boyle and Chris Mohr and Coach Dos about the subject, or do you just want me to post her butchering a kettlebell “instruction” DVD? [/quote]

Okay if it doesn’t fit the text book or your definition of a plyo workout then I guess it has no merit what so ever right? If I was a pro athlete would I do the p90x plyo workout? No. If I am in my mid 20’s and want to stay in shape while trying to get bigger and stronger will I do the cardiovascular jumping p90x workout? Yes. My point is that not only is the workout hard, but it is useful when trying to lose or maintain lean body mass.

As far as the other crap goes…if it helps fat people lose weight I say go for it. You can’t seriously tell me no one has benefited from a Jillian Micahael’s workout. If she sucked that bad people wouldn’t waste their money. Same with a guy like Richard Simmons. Would he help most of the people on this site? Probably not, but can he help some demographic? Yes. [/quote]

Overweight, out of shape, and weak people have no business jumping. Injury risk is through the roof. I’ve met 100x more people who get hurt following P90X than have success stories. Do you know how many foot contacts are recommended for a beginner’s or an elite athlete’s plyo workout? Do you know how many foot contacts are performed in the P90X “plyo” workout? It blows both of them away to levels of ridiculousness. Do you know what the recommendations are for how much external loading somebody can handle relative to that person’s body weight before starting any kind of jumping? My guess is 99% of all people should not touch that DVD with a 15 foot pole.

Furthermore, good MARKETING is all you need to sell products to the masses. Good PRODUCTS are what you need to gain respect from experts in the industry. Guess who is the most hated person by professionals in the industry right now? Jillian Michaels.

Thanks jskrabac for backing me up on this one.
[/quote]

Oooo I see why you hate this stuff … you assume only overweigth, out of shape, or weak people use it! Gotcha.

None-the-less … You do realize that fitness assessments are recommended by the creators of these programs correct? They also advice if they do not meet the requirements for their program they recommend safe way to achieve the requirements?

I’m wondering if you’ve actually ever seen these videos or if you only spout of the same dogmatic bs you’ve read other ignorant people rant and rave about.[/quote]

I think 5 words can sum up Horton’s credibility: The Theory of Muscle Confusion. 'Nuff said.