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[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Found this great post on a friend of mine’s fat loss blog. It’s so very true.

To summarize in case you don’t feel like reading it, it’s basically saying that it’s ass-backwards that people who make any kind of positive physique transformation are more often criticized by their peers than encouraged…i.e “you have a disorder,” “you need to chill out with the exericise,” etc…

So when’s the last time you heard, “you don’t need to workout, you already look fine” or some retarded variation of it? And how fat/out of shape was the person who said it? [/quote]

Usually the people that criticize and demean people for making great body transformations are the same people that worship crap like P90X and Jillian Michaels. Why does ridiculous and dangerous training inspire people when legitimate training and real-world transformations have the opposite effect?[/quote]

Really? So, people losing weight and exercising in a different manner than you constitutes ridiculous and dangerous and can not be considered real-world body transformation? You make no sense chief. Enough people have had positive results using both these methods to attain the goals they seek to validate that it DOES work.

Get your head out of your ass and stop attacking things that happen to be different than what you do.

This shit always drives me crazy. Whaaaa P90X is crap … Whaaaa Biggest Loser is bs … Whaaa Crossfit is a cult

STFU and do you man. There are different goals and different life styles in this world. Shit even in the weight lifting game there are different ways of attaining the same goal that are equally efficient … [/quote]

I was about to say the same thing. If you haven’t tried the plyo P90X workout give it a try and then comment. That shit is rough. [/quote]

I’d love to try the “plyo” workout… except for the fact that it isn’t actually a plyo workout. Jumping around like a jackass for an hour does not constitute plyometric training. The last time I checked, a plyo workout is not supposed to be metabolically taxing. It is supposed to train you to maximize the efficiency of the stretch-shortening cycle. Who said anything about cross-fit, anyway? I don’t have a problem with cross-fit, only the 95% of people who have no business training with that style because they haven’t even mastered the basics of squatting and deadlifting. And how can you defend Jillian Michaels or anything that goes on on that show? It’s disgustingly misleading bullshit. Do you need me to post the 1000 articles written by people like Mike Boyle and Chris Mohr and Coach Dos about the subject, or do you just want me to post her butchering a kettlebell “instruction” DVD? [/quote]

Okay if it doesn’t fit the text book or your definition of a plyo workout then I guess it has no merit what so ever right? If I was a pro athlete would I do the p90x plyo workout? No. If I am in my mid 20’s and want to stay in shape while trying to get bigger and stronger will I do the cardiovascular jumping p90x workout? Yes. My point is that not only is the workout hard, but it is useful when trying to lose or maintain lean body mass.

As far as the other crap goes…if it helps fat people lose weight I say go for it. You can’t seriously tell me no one has benefited from a Jillian Micahael’s workout. If she sucked that bad people wouldn’t waste their money. Same with a guy like Richard Simmons. Would he help most of the people on this site? Probably not, but can he help some demographic? Yes. [/quote]

Overweight, out of shape, and weak people have no business jumping. Injury risk is through the roof. I’ve met 100x more people who get hurt following P90X than have success stories. Do you know how many foot contacts are recommended for a beginner’s or an elite athlete’s plyo workout? Do you know how many foot contacts are performed in the P90X “plyo” workout? It blows both of them away to levels of ridiculousness. Do you know what the recommendations are for how much external loading somebody can handle relative to that person’s body weight before starting any kind of jumping? My guess is 99% of all people should not touch that DVD with a 15 foot pole.

Furthermore, good MARKETING is all you need to sell products to the masses. Good PRODUCTS are what you need to gain respect from experts in the industry. Guess who is the most hated person by professionals in the industry right now? Jillian Michaels.

Thanks jskrabac for backing me up on this one.
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Oooo I see why you hate this stuff … you assume only overweigth, out of shape, or weak people use it! Gotcha.

None-the-less … You do realize that fitness assessments are recommended by the creators of these programs correct? They also advice if they do not meet the requirements for their program they recommend safe way to achieve the requirements?

I’m wondering if you’ve actually ever seen these videos or if you only spout of the same dogmatic bs you’ve read other ignorant people rant and rave about.[/quote]

  1. No shit they say that. If they don’t, they get sued. It’s called a disclaimer. McDonalds puts “caution HOT” on their coffee so when people spill it on themselves, they don’t get sued anymore. You will never find a single fitness book or DVD that doesn’t have the same exact disclaimer.
  2. People that use P90X are typically out of shape, overweight beginners because if they aren’t, they instantly realize there are hundreds of better programs out there. Marketing is all about being at “top of mind.” People gravitate towards what they hear about repeatedly online and on TV if they don’t know any better.
  3. Yes, I have seen every one of the DVDs, and I’ve seen people doing them. Both what I see on the TV screen and what I see the people do disgusts me beyond belief… especially those sorry ass excuses for warmups and the lack of skill development of the participants.
  4. Sure, P90X can work for you. It still sucks ass by comparison to any program Alwyn Cosgrove writes.
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[quote]dianab wrote:

[quote]grayman19 wrote:
I don’t even bother to justify myself. People comment on how clean I eat, and how I am missing out on the fun in life when I turn down ice cream and pie. Sometimes people act like I am actively offending them. I believe this is because my refusal to eat junk makes them feel bad about their own decision, and they get angry because of it.

These people need to realize that I am not on a diet, it is simply a life style and part of who I am. [/quote]

I get this over alcohol and this time of year is the worst. In the fall I had a company retreat, which was very cool until the first night rolled around and everyone got drunk but me. People don’t seem to understand that I don’t drink, period. I’ve learned to come up with all kinds of excuses, right down to it makes me very sick, and I’m still getting glasses of wine shoved into my hand. It’s come to the point that as much as I’d like to attend events for the social aspect, many times I don’t bother because I hate having to explain why I don’t want a drink.[/quote]

I have the perfect response to this. I don’t drink at all, and on the few occasions someone has tried to persuade me to have a drink, I just open my eyes WIDE, stare intently into the eyes of the speaker, grin crazily and say:“Do I look like I need a drink?”.
Get really close to them too.

It’s worked so far!:wink:

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[quote]dianab wrote:

[quote]grayman19 wrote:
I don’t even bother to justify myself. People comment on how clean I eat, and how I am missing out on the fun in life when I turn down ice cream and pie. Sometimes people act like I am actively offending them. I believe this is because my refusal to eat junk makes them feel bad about their own decision, and they get angry because of it.

These people need to realize that I am not on a diet, it is simply a life style and part of who I am. [/quote]

I get this over alcohol and this time of year is the worst. In the fall I had a company retreat, which was very cool until the first night rolled around and everyone got drunk but me. People don’t seem to understand that I don’t drink, period. I’ve learned to come up with all kinds of excuses, right down to it makes me very sick, and I’m still getting glasses of wine shoved into my hand. It’s come to the point that as much as I’d like to attend events for the social aspect, many times I don’t bother because I hate having to explain why I don’t want a drink.[/quote]

I have to deal with this too sometimes, and the sad part is that I am still in high school.

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P90X isn’t a terrible program. I have a friend who made great gains off of it. Maybe he would have done it faster if he did starting strength, or 531. But eventually his gains will tail off, and he’ll probably join a proper program. The important thing is that it got him to the gym.

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I’ve done both P90X and Wendler 5/3/1, so I think I’m qualified to talk about them. I’m also a very in-shape 39-year old male.

P90X: I dropped body fat, got leaner, and increased both my push-up and pull-up totals. At 6’2’', 205lbs, and 39 years old, I got up to 70 straight push-ups on my 1st set, and 17 pull-ups. No cheating, mind you…full extension pull-ups. I consider P90X to be a very thorough approach to fitness…it incorporates ab workouts, stretching, diet, and explosive calisthentic workouts.

Wendler 5/3/1: I followed this for the last 1.5 years, including hill sprints 2x a week. My bench went from 270bls to 310lbs. I put on weight, including a little fat. But I got much, much stronger.

Overall analysis: they both work and achieve what they’re intended for. For a mass-marketed fitness program, P90X is very intensive and thorough. Wendler 5/3/1 is the best, simplest strength program I’ve ever done. No complaints on either, they just achieve different goals.

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[quote]ProRaven wrote:
I’ve done both P90X and Wendler 5/3/1, so I think I’m qualified to talk about them. I’m also a very in-shape 39-year old male.

P90X: I dropped body fat, got leaner, and increased both my push-up and pull-up totals. At 6’2’', 205lbs, and 39 years old, I got up to 70 straight push-ups on my 1st set, and 17 pull-ups. No cheating, mind you…full extension pull-ups. I consider P90X to be a very thorough approach to fitness…it incorporates ab workouts, stretching, diet, and explosive calisthentic workouts.

Wendler 5/3/1: I followed this for the last 1.5 years, including hill sprints 2x a week. My bench went from 270bls to 310lbs. I put on weight, including a little fat. But I got much, much stronger.

Overall analysis: they both work and achieve what they’re intended for. For a mass-marketed fitness program, P90X is very intensive and thorough. Wendler 5/3/1 is the best, simplest strength program I’ve ever done. No complaints on either, they just achieve different goals.[/quote]

I just want to say that I have no problem with people that follow P90X. I’m happy when anybody achieves any goals they have. I just think the program sucks compared to most of the other programs I’ve explored… including 5/3/1, Maximum Strength, Men’s Health Power Training, Cardio Strength Training, Built For Show, The Theory of Fat Loss, and again, all of Alywyn Cosgrove’s stuff.

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[quote]'nuffsaid wrote:

[quote]dianab wrote:

[quote]grayman19 wrote:
I don’t even bother to justify myself. People comment on how clean I eat, and how I am missing out on the fun in life when I turn down ice cream and pie. Sometimes people act like I am actively offending them. I believe this is because my refusal to eat junk makes them feel bad about their own decision, and they get angry because of it.

These people need to realize that I am not on a diet, it is simply a life style and part of who I am. [/quote]

I get this over alcohol and this time of year is the worst. In the fall I had a company retreat, which was very cool until the first night rolled around and everyone got drunk but me. People don’t seem to understand that I don’t drink, period. I’ve learned to come up with all kinds of excuses, right down to it makes me very sick, and I’m still getting glasses of wine shoved into my hand. It’s come to the point that as much as I’d like to attend events for the social aspect, many times I don’t bother because I hate having to explain why I don’t want a drink.[/quote]

I have the perfect response to this. I don’t drink at all, and on the few occasions someone has tried to persuade me to have a drink, I just open my eyes WIDE, stare intently into the eyes of the speaker, grin crazily and say:“Do I look like I need a drink?”.
Get really close to them too.

It’s worked so far!;)[/quote]

haha I’ll try that, although it seems most people think I’m nuts already. This is probably not helping my career ) :

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Why does the title have 5 s. Shouldn’t it be B***??

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[quote]critietaeta wrote:
Why does the title have 5 s. Shouldn’t it be B***?? [/quote]

haha…OCD much?

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[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]critietaeta wrote:
Why does the title have 5 s. Shouldn’t it be B***?? [/quote]

haha…OCD much?[/quote]
You’re just jealous because you can’t use * as well as critietaeta. It’s not his fault that you’re too lazy to use *'s correctly and are putting your self hate onto critietaeta

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[quote]lemonman456 wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]critietaeta wrote:
Why does the title have 5 s. Shouldn’t it be B***?? [/quote]

haha…OCD much?[/quote]
You’re just jealous because you can’t use * as well as critietaeta. It’s not his fault that you’re too lazy to use *'s correctly and are putting your self hate onto critietaeta[/quote]

aw dangit! How come people can always analyze me flawlessly over the interwebz?