You're a Girl. Girls Shouldn't Lift Heavy!

Fuck its so hot in Sydney right now, we’re having a heat wave. It was 41 degrees celcius last weekend(104F) and its going to be 35 degrees today. My gym doesnt have air conditioning which usually I dont mind because I like to sweat but when its this hot, it gets very stuffy.

Anyway cardio day today. Did this before 10am so it wasnt too hot

Walked to the track and did some walking lunges to warm up

Sprints
walk 100m → Sprint 100m - > Walk 100m → Sprint 100m

did this about 10 times I think, I lost count

Metabolic Circuit

Burpees x 10
Mountain Climbers x 10
Firemen Wheels x 10

4 waves through

Walked home 15 minutes and passed out on the couch. Do you guys train in heat? I had to sit down when I got home. I took water with me but I felt light headed.

[quote]CBear84 wrote:
if the chocolate is orgasmic, i’d be very interested to know what kind of sex you’ve been having.

:slight_smile:

Or maybe it’s a refelection on how good the waffles were? :smiley:

Chocolate has never come close to orgasm for me. actually, nothing has.

ok. Assumes the accent and mannerisms of Linda Richman

Chocolate- neither sex, nor orgasm… discuss.

/Linda Richman[/quote]

I dont entirely agree with it either. I guess while i was eating it I was making the noises one makes during sex? I dunno, maybe I just need a good lay. Yes thats probably it. haha.

[quote]shaunar25 wrote:
Just caught up on your log…yeah, fuck douchebag guys, specifically the one who said that. They are the guys who think skinny celebrity chicks are hot and watch crappy staged pornstar porn (amateur is better)…anyhoo, a bit off topic…

cbear is right when she says there is a lot of information floating around that you can research on your own. I find that the most successful people at whatever goal, fitness or not, are those who take the time to plan it, learn about, and do it themselves. HOWEVER, I say that after having asked a lot of questions myself os you are not alone.

As far as fat loss goes, you are not going to get the perfect easy answer everyone wants…kinda like those new shoes they are marketing for all the lazy ass bitches out there that “work your hamstrings and calves 11% more than just walking!” (read in stupid girl voice). Everyone wants to make something that is hard and sucks and if done properly takes a fair amount of time easy. Well it really isn’t but you can definitely accomplish it.
Congrats on losing 60 lbs so far…that’s really admirable. I guess before I start saying things you already know, how did you go about starting to lose the weight? Did you do a diet plan, a severe diet, or did you just make lifestyle changes?

I enlisted the help of a dietician. I have some hormonal problems that was making me gain weight so I needed some assistance to take it off. I was put on a low GI diet which worked well enough but there wasnt an emphasis on protein per se. She made sure I had protein in each meal but nowhere near 20-30g per meal. I cut down out as well and as you said, maid lifestyle changes.

For me, this is what I have learned. Fat loss takes time. It can start happening just in the basic lifestyle changes (ie, eating better, eating more, eating more frequently, and getting in the gym and trianing hard). However, notice it is 3/4 about eating. When I get to a place where these things are happening and want to take it further, then I start tweaking to a specific diet and training plan. But training is not where fat loss is gonna happen…its diet. Now believe me when I say I love me some cheat food (thank you for referencing my cookie weakness!) and staying diligent on a strict meal plan is tough. However, I really think conquering just learning how to eat is the first step. Once I got my head wrapped around that, my body composition started changing. Now I am at a place where I can implement a specific diet ideology (anabolic diet) into my plan and use it as a fat loss tool, almost a year after I started. But I am not doing it in the way many figure girls or BBs do it for comp, where they lose a ton of weight, lean out, “perform”, and then gain a lot of it back plus some. It will take a lot of time for it to be stable fat loss (note not weight loss), and while I set time markers (my birthday in late Feb), that is just to see where I am at by then and evaluate. My point is that there is no perfect way for anyone to do this. It is all trial and error. But most of all it is time. And seriously, fuck time. But it is just the deal.

I’m not interested in doing Figure. My doc said my hormones will go crazy and im not interested in putting on the 60 pounds I worked so hard to lose. I dont have a time frame, I have a body fat % goal. My hormones are still funny and doc advice is to get down to a lower % body fat. 31% is just wayyyyyy too high. I dont think anyone would want to be that high knowing they can be “healthier” and feel vbetter at a lower %. I dont care what I weigh. I’ve been at this for 2 years now so time isnt a factor for me either. But i Do get very frustrated when nothing seems to be happening.

Do 5/3/1. There is no reason not to. Just do it hard and do it smart. And do cardio if you want. But if you are relying on cardio for fat loss, you better plan on 4Xs what you are doing now or even think it will take. When you mention full body workouts, I assume you are referring to circuit training? Not sure. My take on circuit is that it does keep the heart rate up over the period of time, but it mostly just accommodates to a lower cal diet. I don’t really think it is conducive to getting strong, but others may disagree. I suppose it all just depends on your goal. Just be consistent with your training, get your eating plan straight, and things will happen…not immediately, but they will. Patience is the most important skill I have had to learn when making this a lifestyle. And unfortunately, the chocolate and the cookies (boo) are not part of the plan. Fat loss and sweets = never going to happen.

I know < hangs head in shame> I wish i could eat my choccies and lost fat.
Full body I mean workouts that use all body parts in one workout rather than body part splits.
Usually done 3 days a week with a day recovery inbetween

Sorry I just rambled your fucking ears (eyes) off. I have a habit of doing this…Can’t. Stop. Typing.

No please dont ever aplogise, I am appreciate on any help I can get, thanks so much for taking the time out and giving me advice.

BTW, what the fuck is FTW?

For the Win - read it over in SAMA.

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[quote]AlisaV wrote:
Pooper.
God forgive me for knowing this.[/quote]

hahahahaha

Dont be like that, I used it last night on a guy who needed girl advice.

His response…“huh? put what in her pooper”

oh dear

[quote]gymgrrl11 wrote:
Hey Belini! I’m somehat new here as well but long time lurker, just wanted to say welcome! I’m interested in 5/3/1 too, there’s an article on the main site about it. Good luck and look forward to following your progress.[/quote]

Thanks for the welcome gymgrrl! yup its been printed out, getting my head around the maths

[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
How much more are you looking to lose? [/quote]

Well I’d prefer to go by % body fat so I’m at 30 right now, would like to go down to about 25 and then 20%. Not sure what that would be in pounds though sorry

cal, i’d like to ignore the size 4 reference, but I’m not quite grownup enough yet to do so. I didnt start out a size 4, and I havent always been. I’ve literally worked my ass off, and it seems so easy now bc of all the hard work i put it. i had a great coach when i started, that saved me a lot of time and guesswork. it was a shitty comment to make on your part, even if it was in jest.

belini- i’ll echo most of what shauna has already said, including the question about how you lost the initial 60lbs. are you carb tolerant? dairy tolerant? how many servings of veggies do you eat every day? what supps do you take? shes right when she said fat loss is 75% diet. imho %10 is sleep and %5 is training. I’m not sure a whole lot of us are very concerned with daily kcal, but i cant think of anyone around here who hasnt learned to “listen” to their body. pay attention to what makes you feel good and what makes you feel like crap… with diet and all of your other routines. fat loss shouldnt feel like crap when done correctly,

CBear - I try to eat veggies with every meal so 4-5 per day. I love Brocolli, eggplant and capsicum. In this heat I love to snack on cold cucumber dipped in cottage cheese. Supps I take are fish oil, ZMA at night, evening primrose oil, Vitamin D, iron, Multi and chromium for my hormones and sugar cravings. And protein shakes.

I enlisted the help of a dietician to lose the 60. I have some hormonal problems that was making me gain weight so I needed some assistance to take it off. I was put on a low GI diet which worked well enough but there wasnt an emphasis on protein per se but then again I wasnt lifting that heavy back then. She made sure I had protein in each meal (its called the Insulin Resistance diet) but nowhere near 20-30g per meal.
I didnt feel all that bad when losing the weight to be fair, I was eating a substantial amount of food.

[quote]CBear84 wrote:
cal, i’d like to ignore the size 4 reference, but I’m not quite grownup enough yet to do so. I didnt start out a size 4, and I havent always been. I’ve literally worked my ass off, and it seems so easy now bc of all the hard work i put it. i had a great coach when i started, that saved me a lot of time and guesswork. it was a shitty comment to make on your part, even if it was in jest.

belini- i’ll echo most of what shauna has already said, including the question about how you lost the initial 60lbs. are you carb tolerant? dairy tolerant? how many servings of veggies do you eat every day? what supps do you take? shes right when she said fat loss is 75% diet. imho %10 is sleep and %5 is training. I’m not sure a whole lot of us are very concerned with daily kcal, but i cant think of anyone around here who hasnt learned to “listen” to their body. pay attention to what makes you feel good and what makes you feel like crap… with diet and all of your other routines. fat loss shouldnt feel like crap when done correctly, [/quote]

[quote]CBear84 wrote:
cal, i’d like to ignore the size 4 reference, but I’m not quite grownup enough yet to do so. I didnt start out a size 4, and I havent always been. I’ve literally worked my ass off, and it seems so easy now bc of all the hard work i put it. i had a great coach when i started, that saved me a lot of time and guesswork. it was a shitty comment to make on your part, even if it was in jest.

belini- i’ll echo most of what shauna has already said, including the question about how you lost the initial 60lbs. are you carb tolerant? dairy tolerant? how many servings of veggies do you eat every day? what supps do you take? shes right when she said fat loss is 75% diet. imho %10 is sleep and %5 is training. I’m not sure a whole lot of us are very concerned with daily kcal, but i cant think of anyone around here who hasnt learned to “listen” to their body. pay attention to what makes you feel good and what makes you feel like crap… with diet and all of your other routines. fat loss shouldnt feel like crap when done correctly, [/quote]

http://images.tmuscle.com/forum_images/b/e/be9c1-002_copy.jpg

I agree completely with Shauna and Cbear. I posted that pic just to show I haven’t always been a size 4 either. Diet, hard work, more diet and always listening to my body. It can be done. Like Cbear, right now it does seem easy but when I was on a mission to lose fat I kept strict to my diet plan (a healthy, high protein, high fat, no sugar NOT low calorie diet) for month after month including over Christmas during a visit to my family for a wedding no exceptions and damn straight I saw results. It can be done but if your committed and realistic it can be done. Of course not just diet, but I worked out hard too and I tried to be smart about it. (ie) reading everything I could get my hands on written by Thibs)

wow debra…amazing.

That’s an amazing transformation Debra, kudos to you.

Dont get me wrong, I’m quite proud of myself for what I have achieved but I need to be careful not to get into the “ok so now you have lost it, lets go back to eating crap again” mindset. I have worked hard but I know I can keep going with this and I’m so excited about the journey. Its now even better with the support of you lovely ladies(and gents).

CBear - that wasn’t a snarky dig at you (or anyone else) - just responding to Belini’s point that everyone on here seems to be buff. And well, I’m not so, that was all. I’m full of admiration for your body comp, trust me.
Debra - that is indeed amazing. I do like it when folks post the befores - gives people like me hope.

It is about the journey!!

Even if I had lost the weight in the time frame I had in mind, I wouldn’t have learned half as much!

[quote]shaunar25 wrote:
wow debra…amazing.[/quote]

x2

[quote]CBear84 wrote:
cal, i’d like to ignore the size 4 reference, but I’m not quite grownup enough yet to do so. I didnt start out a size 4, and I havent always been. I’ve literally worked my ass off, and it seems so easy now bc of all the hard work i put it. i had a great coach when i started, that saved me a lot of time and guesswork. it was a shitty comment to make on your part, even if it was in jest.
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what’s with you, lately?

[quote]CBear84 wrote:
cal, i’d like to ignore the size 4 reference, but I’m not quite grownup enough yet to do so. I didnt start out a size 4, and I havent always been. I’ve literally worked my ass off, and it seems so easy now bc of all the hard work i put it. i had a great coach when i started, that saved me a lot of time and guesswork. it was a shitty comment to make on your part, even if it was in jest. [/quote]

god i hope you meant “shitty comment” as a compliment.

[quote]Belini wrote:
That’s an amazing transformation Debra, kudos to you.

Dont get me wrong, I’m quite proud of myself for what I have achieved but I need to be careful not to get into the “ok so now you have lost it, lets go back to eating crap again” mindset. I have worked hard but I know I can keep going with this and I’m so excited about the journey. Its now even better with the support of you lovely ladies(and gents).

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Thanks :slight_smile:

I know what you mean about that mindset. I think that picture is more than 2 years old now and last year in the fall I started to feel like I’d reached my fat loss goals and could relax about it and go back to some of my old eating habits but it was too soon. I started to put on fat and had to re-evaluate. Now, a year later (there must be something about autumn that gets me wanting to eat every high GI carb in sight!) I have relaxed on my diet quite a bit but there isn’t the same consequences–I’m a little softer, sure, but my muscles are pretty happy about more carbs.

I’m not saying I’m going back to how I used to eat but I haven’t been as strict as I was. I am seeing a change in how my body is responding to foods but I think it took some time for it to ‘take’ and at the moment of reaching my goal was too soon to relax about it. Be patient! I am a firm believer that doing it gradually and over the long run will not only get the fat loss but will change your metabolism, improve your hormone response to foods and allow your fitness goals to be lasting, both physically and mentally. It’s a big challenge for anyone who has lost fat to keep it off.

Also, there are parts of my diet that I will never allow to return. Sweetened drinks, pasta, massive amounts of potatoes and eating half a box of crappy cereal are not coming back. Not that these diet specifics applies to everybody equally but these are the things that really killed my diet and I’ve made a decision that they are not treats or cheats but are in the same category as smokes. This is part of the permanent change. Chocolate cake is going to be the same but I’ve decided it’s worth it. The other things I can live without and decided they are not worth it. The old days would have a large serving of pasta with a bit of seafood and fatty sauce and treat myself to the chocolate cake, not recognizing the pasta dinner part was the problem I was blind to.

I guess my point is you gotta find and admit to the things that are detrimental to your diet and take them out. It’s different for everybody and I think that’s part of what makes this so difficult because you can’t just take someone else’s diet plan and apply it to yourself but you have understand what is working and why and create your own plan and tweak it to your needs and goals.

medium veggie thin crust pizzas had to come out of my diet!! LOL!!
and buffalo wings and brownies…wah

maybe someday, maybe someday. just not the whole pizza…and it would be gluten free, haha.

Workout today, I decided to do a higher volume full body workout as I was short for time. In and out in 30 mins. I rested 60 seconds exactly between sets and I was very tired at the end of it.

BB bench press 3x10
superset with
Step up with push press 3x20

Shoulder row 3x10
superset with
Squat with shoulder press combo 3x20

BB squat 3 x10
superset with
split jump squats 3 x 20

Wanted to do some jump rope but ran out of time so walked home instead

I agree with everything said Debra

As a follow on, I have another question to ya’ll

How do you deal with the people in your life who just dont get what you’re trying to do? let them be partners, family, friends etc? I’ve let go 2 friends over the last 2 years as I found them to be negative influence on me and I’d constantly feel pressured to drink and eat when I went out with them. I never said no to going out, just no to the bar food. I always said no to drinking because I drove everywhere. I still have a life and still do things I enjoy.

Oh and sorry for the delay guys… Happy Thanksgiving!