I guess the title could be considered a warning for those that rage at these kind of threads but I wanted to make one because I’m starting MMA for the first time on Monday. I have absolutely zero experience fighting, I just enjoy watching UFC all the time and I observed a class at the gym and it seemed really fun. The only “fighting” experience I have had is I got punched in the face one time by this guy and it didn’t really hurt even though it caught me off guard and I have wrestled with friends.
Anyways, I have known for the past month and a half that I was going to be starting this stuff so I have been working out to get into shape for it. This is what I have been doing.
For running I have been doing this. I’m on week 8.
Then for strength training I have been doing this 3 times a week for 3 sets.
After I finish my running and that I go do the leg press 3x5 then I do some abs stuff, 1 exercise bringing the legs to the head basically, crunches, then twists each a few sets until failure.
Is this a decent routine? What should I change if anything? Thank you all for your help I know you get these kinds of threads often.
Edit: I was looking at this one running routine, you went 3.5 minutes jog, 1.5 minutes at a fast pace but not really a sprint, 1 minute walk then repeat for a total of 6 times. Is this a good cardio routine? I’m really new to the training aspect.
I second Holy Mac. In a few years, you can either be, a medicore spaz pussy with ugly grimace and mouth peice stuffed into some $80 Tap Out Speedos, Trying to impress people of your pseudo toughness… Or, you can just be beast built and not have to get in masturbatory arguments with boxing aficionados, tma guys and other posers to justify your validity (because youre only 160lbs anyways).
The choice is yours.
I’m fat, lift big weights, got hypo right now and study Judo at a old school dojo, yet go to my buddy’s MMA gym every few weeks and choke rape some poser for fun. MMA won’t make you tough, only you can.
You’d be better off just taking some bjj classes, jjj, sambo or judo class, and then just buying a punching bag and getting some videos. Those striking, and wrestling classes from my experience are basically fucking pathetic. They are like the video game nerd’s equivalent of the fat house wife’s cardio kickboxing class.
They make you less of a striker than just fighting with your natural predisposition (unless you’re a total puss). I’ve gone to a striking class and had a ‘boxing’ instructor who was some tall muscleless chubby white guy with an ugly mma grimace, correct my form…and then sparred him after class, and popped him so hard in the temple he quit and said I was too aggressie. That nigga looked like psyduck, psyyayayaya.
Their instructors alot of the time ain’t legit. This dude fought in some amateur tournament, so somehow was qualified even tho he never won anything.
I’d just go to tma place and avoid the posers and reres you’re bound to find at a place called ‘DEATH ROW (LOL) MMA.’ Why is it Death Row? Are you all bound to get your asses kicked and then killed or something? O no, you guys admire stupid psychopath killers who get caught, ah, that explains it!
I agree with what most people have said. Get overall bigger and stronger and take a TMA first. Master it - I’m talking 6 years minimum then start looking into a complimentary martial art if you want to go into MMA. The reality is fighting is like gymnastics you really have to start young if you truly want to be good at it.
The University of Central Florida has an MMA club and they asked me to help instruct them because taking a bunch of inexperienced fighters doing whatever the fuck they want does not equal skilled MMA. Taking two or three experts and learning from them does. If you look at any of the professional MMA they have specific training in one style that they’ve done for years then typically train a bit less in another style then do strength training and very last thing is doing actual combination of their styles.
[quote]Houston Texan wrote:
I guess the title could be considered a warning for those that rage at these kind of threads but I wanted to make one because I’m starting MMA for the first time on Monday. I have absolutely zero experience fighting, I just enjoy watching UFC all the time and I observed a class at the gym and it seemed really fun. The only “fighting” experience I have had is I got punched in the face one time by this guy and it didn’t really hurt even though it caught me off guard and I have wrestled with friends.
Anyways, I have known for the past month and a half that I was going to be starting this stuff so I have been working out to get into shape for it. This is what I have been doing.
For running I have been doing this. I’m on week 8.
Then for strength training I have been doing this 3 times a week for 3 sets.
After I finish my running and that I go do the leg press 3x5 then I do some abs stuff, 1 exercise bringing the legs to the head basically, crunches, then twists each a few sets until failure.
Is this a decent routine? What should I change if anything? Thank you all for your help I know you get these kinds of threads often.
Edit: I was looking at this one running routine, you went 3.5 minutes jog, 1.5 minutes at a fast pace but not really a sprint, 1 minute walk then repeat for a total of 6 times. Is this a good cardio routine? I’m really new to the training aspect.[/quote]
what are your goals with that routine? i assume to improve your conditioning for fighting?
the Complex that Couture does is good for that, as well as interval runs. the big thing that you will need to look at is your recovery…how many days is class, how long, etc.
some people need to eliminate all outside training when they start MMA training, and some people can lift like nothing else is going on. i’d suggest minimize it, and focus on learning tenchnique in your MMA classes, and developing strength and endurance on your own…
[quote]titopuente wrote:
Who are you training with? Are you in Houston or the surrounding area?[/quote]
I’m in Huntsville at school training with Death Row MMA.[/quote]
Dont listen to the haters. Death Row MMA has some good trainers and decent ammy fighters. What you should really focus on is a plan. Are you wanting to compete? Once the training bug really gets into you, you will wanna compete. Then think about which weight class you wanna fight in and modify your strength and conditioning accordingly. Its much harder to gain muscle than it is to burn fat. If you are doing it just for fun, it wont matter what you weigh so gain as much strength as possible especially in grip strength and static strength for grappling. A video will not, WILL NOT, replace a good trainer in striking arts. Sure cardio kickboxing will not improve your technique, but it will put more gas in the tank and its nice to see the girlies and the fine asses kickboxing gives them. Besides, who’s to say you cant work good technique in a cardio kickboxing class?
On a side note, a strength and conditioning coach I worked with told me the best way to come up in combat sports as far as strength goes is to work striking arts only for like 3 months and then switch to grappling only for 3 months. Striking = explosive strength and requires different muscle memory than grappling. Grappling = static strength. At any rate, if you train MMA for fun or to become a competitor, it really makes lifting in the weight room more interesting and purposeful than lifting to look better in the mirror and the conditioning will add years to your life. Dont listen to the haters. If you enjoy it and it makes you feel good, do it. And you’re at a good school. Death Row MMA guys are tough. I trained at EliteMMA in Houston for about a year and change. I loved every minute of it and wish I could have moved the gym and the trainers with me.
@Spetsnaz, they call it Death Row MMA mainly because the nearest death row in Texas is in the same town they’re in. I also bulked from 170lbs over 250lbs over a year. I’m an endomorph so it wasn’t really that difficult considering 250lbs was my weight before I cut to 170lbs.
@Cycobushmaster, I observed the class and it didn’t seem as though it was that exhausting, worse comes to worse I can intake more calories and will be fine, I have really good recovery when it comes to soreness.
@Admbaum, thank you for the support man. I will probably want to eventually compete at 185lbs. I remember when I was at 185lbs and that’s what I felt the most strong/in shape at. I’m currently at 6’1" 210lbs.
You’d be better off just taking some bjj classes, jjj, sambo or judo class, and then just buying a punching bag and getting some videos. Those striking, and wrestling classes from my experience are basically fucking pathetic. They are like the video game nerd’s equivalent of the fat house wife’s cardio kickboxing class.
They make you less of a striker than just fighting with your natural predisposition (unless you’re a total puss). I’ve gone to a striking class and had a ‘boxing’ instructor who was some tall muscleless chubby white guy with an ugly mma grimace, correct my form…and then sparred him after class, and popped him so hard in the temple he quit and said I was too aggressie. That nigga looked like psyduck, psyyayayaya.
Their instructors alot of the time ain’t legit. This dude fought in some amateur tournament, so somehow was qualified even tho he never won anything.
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No, instructional DVD’s will not replace an actual striking coach (a decent one anyhow). Maybe if you have a strong foundation in striking, then DVD’s can be helpful supplemental training aids. But you will almost undoubtedly wind up teaching yourself some bad habits, and unless you are very, very athletically gifted and a very visual learner, then you’ll probably wind up teaching yourself wrong anyhow. Nothing can replace quality instruction.
It just sounds like the above mentioned particular MMA school was a crappy one. There are quite a few legit ones out there though.
Not saying that taking separate BJJ, Judo, Sambo, wrestling, etc… classes would be a bad idea though.
[quote]Enders Drift wrote:
I agree with what most people have said. Get overall bigger and stronger and take a TMA first. Master it - I’m talking 6 years minimum then start looking into a complimentary martial art if you want to go into MMA. The reality is fighting is like gymnastics you really have to start young if you truly want to be good at it. [/quote]
I’m not trying to be a dick, but what kind of bullshit advice is this?
That’s like a guy coming on here and being like, “Hey, so I’ve been watching the NBA and basketball looks like a lot of fun. Some buddies asked me to come to a rec league and I’m going to start with that…” and you saying, “No, practice your foul shots for 6 years minimum before you start playing basketball. And you’ll never be good because everybody who is any good starts when they’re young.”
Nobody on here is making the UFC, the guy just wants to have fun and learn a new sport. I think he realizes he’s not going to become GSP. Just because he’ll suck at it, doesn’t mean he can’t have fun with it.
3IDSpetnaz…shut the fuck up. You exemplify the “posers”…can’t believe you’re advising videos over actual classes to a BEGINNER. AND Death Row is a legit school. A Relson Gracie affiliate. As for the name,it’s located in Huntsville,TX. HHHMMM>>>I wonder why they call it DEATH ROW mma. Idiot…would love to see you go to their school and “LOL.” Images of Chris Spicer beating you to a pulp come to mind.
@Houston Texan: Death Row MMA = great school. You will learn all you need to know from these guys…just actively listen and be patient. Everything will fall in place as long as you work hard.
My advice would be just to focus more on the actual mma training for a few weeks and see how your body responds. Assess how often you will be training BJJ,MMA,striking,etc…THEN strip your workouts and make a plan that you can stick to that doesn’t sap all your energy for MMA and risk overtraining/injuring your body. I say this because the plan you have will not be in your best interests DEPENDING on how often you’re going to classes,rolling,conditioning,etc.
Thanks for the tips Big Boss. I think I’m going to continue my conditioning routine then after the first week of classes assess if it’s too much at that time. I’m sure any of the instructors there would help me make a program up.
[quote]Houston Texan wrote:
Thanks for the tips Big Boss. I think I’m going to continue my conditioning routine then after the first week of classes assess if it’s too much at that time. I’m sure any of the instructors there would help me make a program up.[/quote]
No problem. That will work…although just keep in mind that the first two/three weeks of any BJJ,MMA,etc classes will have a conditioning aspect. Just depends on the person…and the structure of the classes.
So really listen to your body…and make sure you have a real “off-day” for rest…and some “active-recovery” to keep you loose…because you will be sore in the most peculiar places those first couple of weeks.
Well the instructor practices ‘Thugjitsu,’ so I’d prolly just wait for him in the parking lot, blow his brains out while I’m driving off. Why would I wanna challenge a guy who is on a mentality where ‘thugjitsu’ is an acceptable martial art form to practice?
Who the fuck cares man, he’s only a blue belt anyways. Ya he knows some brazilian jiu jitsu, wow, how does that make him special again?
Maybe the guys know more shit than the average noob, but their whole style is so fuck tarded, that they deserve to be degraded. OMG RELSON GRACIE, MY HERO ^^…Royce Gracie R GOD ^^…Brazil Are KAWAII!!! Brazilian jiujitsu is one of many submission arts, and is only so mega faddish because one dude dominated the UFC using it, back when 300lb big gulp truckers were serious contenders. How long did that last anyone? Didn’t Ken Shamrock basically woop that dude’s shortly after anyways? Y’all act like BJJ invented submissions or something, it’s one art, and it’s pretty incomplete compared to its more popular cousins sambo and judo.
If anyone is a poser, it’s the dudes who keep on glamourizing bjj as if it is some mythical ballet, and think a gym called ‘Death Row,’ where they teach, ~Thugjitsu~, is a place worth training at.
I’m on an advanced cultural level, I don’t waste my time and especially don’t give my money to ignorant culturally vapid jackasses. (Like guys who think Death Row proximity is a plus and not a shame to be avoided, or that ~THUG~ jitsu, is something acceptable to be a part of)
Call me up tight, whatev.
So you gained 7 lbs of lean muscle mass every month over a year period. You gotta let me in on your lifting program! What was your lifting routine, how did you train?
Well the instructor practices ‘Thugjitsu,’ so I’d prolly just wait for him in the parking lot, blow his brains out while I’m driving off. Why would I wanna challenge a guy who is on a mentality where ‘thugjitsu’ is an acceptable martial art form to practice?
Who the fuck cares man, he’s only a blue belt anyways. Ya he knows some brazilian jiu jitsu, wow, how does that make him special again?
Maybe the guys know more shit than the average noob, but their whole style is so fuck tarded, that they deserve to be degraded. OMG RELSON GRACIE, MY HERO ^^…Royce Gracie R GOD ^^…Brazil Are KAWAII!!! Brazilian jiujitsu is one of many submission arts, and is only so mega faddish because one dude dominated UFC back when 300lb big gulp truckers dominated UFC using it. Y’all act like BJJ invented submissions or something, it’s one art, and it’s pretty incomplete compared to its more popular cousins sambo and judo.
If anyone is a poser, it’s the dudes who keep on glamourizing bjj as if it is some mythical ballet, and think a gym called ‘Death Row,’ where they teach, ~Thugjitsu~, is a place worth training at.
I’m on an advanced cultural level, I don’t waste my time and especially don’t give my money to ignorant culturally vapid jackasses. (Like guys who think Death Row proximity is a plus and not a shame to be avoided, or that ~THUG~ jitsu, is something acceptable to be a part of)
Call me up tight, whatev.[/quote]
How about we just call you stupid as fuck.
1)Only a poser would jump all over the whole “BJJ is worthless” crap as a defense. This was a discussion of MMA AS A WHOLE(i.e.boxing,muay thai,etc). Nowhere is BJJ being glamorized…it’s integral to what the OP is doing.
2)“Thugjitsu” is actually irony of thug-wannabe-morons like yourself. It was started as a joke by Yves Edwards and guys have just ran with it.
3)If you’re on such an “advanced cultural level”…learn to shut the fuck up when people are discussing something you have shown to be clueless about. Stick to watching your training videos…and your “South Park Mexican” wanna-be rap.
P.S. since you still fail to get it,Death Row is named for the many TDCJ prisons in Huntsville that house death row inmates. A place that seems fitting according to your cowardly ramblings on these boards. The hypocrisy of you criticizing them for why they named their school “Death Row” is astounding considering the bullshit you post that glamorizes criminal behavior.
