This may be a little off topic but what do people think are decent/good/great numbers for front squat?
I’m no expert, but I’d say most people would begin to consider a front squat to be pretty decent at about 80% of your best back squat.
[quote]rmccart1 wrote:
I’m no expert, but I’d say most people would begin to consider a front squat to be pretty decent at about 80% of your best back squat.[/quote]
I think that’s a rather arbitrary means to measure it. Suppose one’s if one’s backsquat is incredibly weak.
I think we need a number in relation to BW. Maybe 2x BW is very good?
[quote]dan23564 wrote:
n3wb wrote:
dan23564 wrote:
I’m 17, and I’m 5’9" and weigh 166, my bench is 240, my squat at 425, and my deadlift is rite on 400, is that good for my age and size??
Yeah, but you probably knew that.
my brother was telling me he could squat 470 when I checked it was about 3" high when he tryed going to paralel he missed 405.
So you might want to check the depth on those squats. Or your just a realy bad deadlifter… in comparison to your other lifts.
Yeah, I go below parallel because I’m used to going to powerlifting meets and you have to go at least parallel, so my coach tells me to always go below parallel, I just think i have a weak lower back, any little exercises I can do for that?[/quote]
You might just have short little t-rex arms that make your leverages suck so pulling is harder.
Here’s one. My 1 rep max for dips is 300 total (190+110). My 1 rep max for bench is like 200. Actually this is a little off because of a major elbow injury. Even when I was healthy it was like 320 for 3 reps on dips and maybe 250-270 on bench.
And if I had the dumbells I think I could shrug as much as I deadlift (bout 305 so not much but still).
[quote]Taquito wrote:
Here’s one. My 1 rep max for dips is 300 total (190+110). My 1 rep max for bench is like 200. Actually this is a little off because of a major elbow injury. Even when I was healthy it was like 320 for 3 reps on dips and maybe 250-270 on bench.
And if I had the dumbells I think I could shrug as much as I deadlift (bout 305 so not much but still).[/quote]
Something seems off, you can dip with 110 lbs plus bodweight, yet you can only handle right around bw for bench? Weird…
For the longest time, I could ATG squat more than I could parallel squat.
That changed.
[quote]Taquito wrote:
Here’s one. My 1 rep max for dips is 300 total (190+110). My 1 rep max for bench is like 200. Actually this is a little off because of a major elbow injury. Even when I was healthy it was like 320 for 3 reps on dips and maybe 250-270 on bench.
And if I had the dumbells I think I could shrug as much as I deadlift (bout 305 so not much but still).[/quote]
What’s the depth on those dips?
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What’s the depth on those dips?
OMG that avatar is heaven.
Comparing yourself to others is very difficulty, because there are so many different variations in body makeup. Its even worse for comparing strength ratios. But if your using them as a general guideline, it could be really good.
Someone said something about deadlifting more than you squat. That really depends on your body style, like someone said. But also, Think about this, im not sure if this is a good argument, but 1-legged squats are WAY harder than 1-leg deadlifts. Your BW factors into a squat more, and the joint mechanics are completely different.
Also, another factor that changes these ratios a lot, is training. People train in different ways. Some develop their entire body evenly, while others focus on their strengths, and some focus on their weaknesses. I used to focus on my strengths, and as a result had huge numbers on bench, and low numbers on just about everything else. Nowadays, i do just about everything except bench.
Its tough to make a good set of recomendations without looking at the values of some well-rounded athletes.
I know its been recomended that 1-rm pullups be greater than bench.
And i think its safe to say, squats and deadlift should be greater than bench and pullups.
I have a book, that has strength values of different college athletes. In it, 1-rm bench is about 75% of 1-rm back squat.
And if we know its a good idea to have greater pullup strength then bench strength. I’d say BW+.5BW is a good start for a strong 1-rm pullup. So for someone like me, that would be 270lbs total, and a bench around 270 or a little less, and then squat around 360, which is 2x BW and then deadlift somewhere above 360. As for front squat, i’d say i can probably do about 70-75% of my Back squat, so 250, or about 1.4x BW would be pretty good.
So like i said, these numbers probably dont correlate much, because the strength numbers i used from my book were based off college offensive linemen. It would be best to find numbers for the type of athlete you think your most like, or most want to be like.
Pullup: BW+(.5 x BW)
Bench: 1.5 x BW
Sqaut: 2 x BW
Deadlift: 2 x BW
Also though, your BW factors into all these lifts to a certain extent. BW affects pullup>squat>deadlift>bench. So really to squat 2x your BW, your putting 2x your BW on the bar, but your also probably squating .75x your BW as well.
Crap seeing all those values makes me realize i need to get to work. Course thats why im not an offensive linemen.
I can squat a lot more than i bench, and i also clean (without help of a partner)the DBs that i press for reps… in most gyms this is very unusual…