Sorry man, Im not going to scour the internet for obscure statistics to back up common sense and observation.
I actually believe you aren’t comprehending the second piece you quoted. I’m not being snarky and don’t see this as a function of intelligence, but self-awareness. It can hard to realize you’re flipping the same coin you’re fighting.
I taught HS English for twenty years. I was a fan of the subject matter, but you learn pretty quickly nobody is interested in the subject matter - they are kids looking to party and get good grades.
I was interested in fulfilling the role of a teacher which by default becomes being a role model - show up on time, be prepared, treat kids with respect. In a few of the districts in which I taught, I was one of the only male figures in the lives of the kids and was a role model by default - not my goal. No interest in indoctrinating my students, just asking them to think critically, to ask questions, to form their own opinions and have evidence to support their position.
A few of my colleagues were inappropriate with their students - two of them married former students, one got caught in a compromising position with a student. Both female and male teachers were inappropriate.
Where I taught, top salary was $150k.
I am not disagreeing with any of the points made, just pointing out a few exceptions.
. I’ve definitely heard this stereotype, but my wrestling coaches were also really good teachers and one guidance counselor who really liked their work. The majority of male teachers I had were Vietnam era veterans that used the GI bill to go to college after they got out. I’ve run into a couple as an adult, and they recognised/remembered me almost immediately. It was clear through conversation that they really loved their work.
They are/were the men who teach boys to become men, something we need more of.
In keeping with that, so are the teachers I know personally now, but instead of Vietnam, it was Iraq. That may also have to do with age/era too, cuz Iraq/Desert Storm, etc. was what was happening when my age/peer group was graduating high school.
They’re all pretty masculine, and I don’t see any personal red flags that would make me think they are anything but a good influence.
My grandfather was a WW2 combat vet who saw a lot of combat. He became a college professor, which isn’t teaching young kids but they are still kids in some ways. The idea that teaching is not masculine enough for men makes no sense.
As someone who falls into that age bracket closer to the higher end, it’s a combination of everything however, one thing that some fail to notice is that there is actually a push back from Gen Z. Some studies have found Gen Z to be surprisingly conservative in some ways particularly young men embracing virginity and the concept of bodycount. Many young men aren’t just looking to get laid, they are actually looking for a partner, someone who can potentially be a wife/mother of their kids. As a result, it’s not uncommon among this generation to find some who frown upon hookup culture and do not engage in it. Taking this into account with Social Media, P0rn & OnlyFans, the disaster that is online dating, superficial perceived standards & expectations of dating, society’s attack on classic masculinity which is another rabbit hole of it’s own…it’s quite a strange time for young people in general and dating. There was a time where people actively tried to meet each other. I remember recently seeing a video from the 1990’s of some young girls at the mall being interviewed, they said they were hanging out and hoping to meet some guys. That level of face-to-face interaction has totally been abandoned.
I have been questioned over the years about feeling guilty about being a white male, white privilege, and coming from a family that has substance. My answer is always no. The last time it happened the lady was disconcerted that I would tell her I feel no guilt about my position in life due to birth. I told her (this is in front of the rest of the staff I work with…) I worked for my grades. I interviewed and was hired for the positions I have held over the years. I told her I did not feel a bit of remorse for my grandfather paying for my education, and I told her no amount of badgering was going to change my mind. The co-teacher in the English department (Those English departments?), a younger man from Generation Pansy was flustered at my answers. I told them, you picked the wrong person to try this crap with.
Undaunted she then asked me if I was racist. I mulled that over for about two seconds, and replied, “If I tell you no, you will call me a liar. If I say yes you will state you knew it. This is what you need to do. You need to find the non-Caucasian individuals I have known, worked with, taught, socialized with, etc. and ask them if I am racist. It would be their opinion that would count.”
That shut her the fuck up. She had no comeback for that. The issue, with her and even the young fellow from Generation Pansy (That is a generalized term for fellows like him…) is they are not as clever, and smart, as they think they are. They think they know history they don’t. They think I do not know history, I have forgotten more than they know. Opening up Wiki, and quoting some historical “fact” is not history. They suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect. They are a lot less smart than they think they are. The lady has never lived outside the Mountain West. Yet she thinks she is one of those social justice warriors. She went to a different school, the fellow leaves me alone now on such matters. Especially when you just tell him, no arguments, You are Wrong. He does not cope well with that.
Having typed all of that, I am well aware of my educational shortcomings and gaps in my knowledge. I am no Einstein, but to paraphrase him: The more I learn the more I know I do not know. There is a lot I do not know. Unfortunately for them, they read a book and suddenly they have Ph.D.'s in the whole topic.
Zealots for or against [insert group or issue here, but I think you’re talking about feminism when you say “SJW”] sound the same to me.
So for example, I think caregivers are wildly underpaid for the difficult, disgusting, and essential work they do. I think it’s awful that nursing homes and other care centers for the elderly are as understaffed as they are, because it’s horrifying to think of the residents lying in their feces for hours at a time and having as limited interaction as happens at some facilities. Too, there is no dignity for the workers caring for these people - limited, if any, paid time off, low pay, and high rate of injury (back issues particularly). They are attacked at higher rates than most professions. Psych units, same. Residential placements for developmentally disabled adults, same. Kids’ residential, same. Even daycare. I live in New England, where pay is generally higher than other places, and still nursing home staff are starting at like $16-$17 and hour, McD’s at $15.
So I can and do rant and rant and rant about that. It’s social justice. Am I an insufferable reject with ZERO sense of awareness?
It’s more complex than you’re allowing for. Thank god for the people willing to warrior into our societal cesspools to try to produce change. The investigator (journalist or phd candidate, can’t remember) who went into a state psychiatric hospital and then COULDN’T GET OUT. A social justice warrior.
The foster system advocates. The people trying to improve daycare, so that no more babies die of being given adult benedryl. And so on. All SJWs.
I think SJW’s collectively boil down to the green haired weirdos screaming at the sky when a USA President mentions something like security, or whatever the current group think contingency is mad at.
It’s one thing to discuss process inefficiency and another to just scream “Moarrrrr Money!”, which is what happens without consideration for overhead, downline manufacturing costs, market pricing adjustments and ensuing macro economic effect, never mind market value and the specter of government oversight & control.
I think sjws have freedom of speech just like the ones criticising them.
I don’t like it when stupidity on either side interferes with my life trying to push for something that either doesn’t affect them or that they have no chance of changing
Case in point: Virtue signalling and or ignorant students thinking they can actually do something by pitching tents in centre of campus. Randos showing up thinking its right to go and attack students. Admin overreacting by making classes remote and stopping campus services during legitimately peaceful protests responding to encampment being shut down.
Hence…. discussion. Nobody wants to accidentally end up worse off.
Unfortunately, economics will be above most people’s capacity to understand, so holding a hand out for higher paychecks feels right. And then McDonalds replaces them with touch screens and automated burger flipping machines.
Most good intentioned social movements end up badly bc unsavoury actors take advantage of naive students
Something that I’ve always wondered is where those participating in these protest things find the time and energy… and what they could do instead of wasting their time on BS