It is funny to watch things come full circle. Especially female empowerment, which I’m in agreement with.
But….. you can’t accuse women of being logical creatures and watching them collectively come to the point of owning their own consequences is funny.
Well on a bright note… since the trend is young men in that age bracket mentioned above are staying virgins. I guess women will need to look at older men… " Who’s your DADDY!?" LOL
You forgot to shame me with the “real man” card
I don’t even have one of those.
Why do people feel the need to bracket others in such broad categories. Could we at least throw in a couple more covariates?
If we’re going to be generalising people, why not consider culture, socioeconomic status, education level (although that might run into multicollinearity issues), number of friends, interests………
It’s a thing. The MILF trend has shifted
Breaking down granular dichotomies overlayed with confounding factors is too deep for cheeky Internet forums.
At the end of the day there are observable feminine and masculine traits, with some variation, and I think those are what are being discussed.
Me either
I’ll bring some white claw, you pick out a hallmark movie, and we’ll do pushups together.
That’s how we earn the card, right?
That and overlooking all their toxic behaviors
I have extras if you need one.
I thought your real man card was the size of a publishers clearing house check.
I think you have the size of my man card confused with the size of something else.
Nope. What else would it be?
My list of people who made the list.
Am I on it?
I don’t either. I don’t trust men who like working with kids. Excepting coaches or a few examples you mentioned around shop class as an example, who are likely in it for the content more so than the kids, I don’t see herding a bunch strange children as a natural interest for men and would be highly suspicious of motive. Shit pay, no room for ambition and growth and…. a bunch of kids all day, every day. No way.
I also have a problem with teachers serving as role models. I think a large piece of the issues we are seeing is that schools in many areas have become more of an institution of thought (guided and even coerced thought) instead of centers for objective instruction and this is a two way street.
I expect teachers in my daughter’s future to teach subject matter and shut the fuck up otherwise. Nobody cares.
Role models come from home, cue “single mother” thread.
Many coaches are also teachers. And it’s not like coaches haven’t engaged in illegal behaviors with kids. Also, it’s not working with kids. Kids are not coworkers. It’s teaching, coaching and mentoring kids.
They will be that by default. They spend more time with kids than their parents.
And this has happened as the number of women in education, be it in the classroom or in admin, has increased.
You expect that from women? This is the problem with your position; you don’t want male teachers but you don’t like the aspects and policies of present day education which were all introduced and pushed by women.
I can speak from personal experience. What we see in schools, what gets described as wokeness, comes from CRT, intersectionality, marxism, new wave feminism, etc. Some of the books we were assigned to read in the teaching program were written by authors who were admitted proponents of those ideologies I just mentioned. They explicitly stated they wanted to educate kids to become activists in their communities.
I’m not going to play semantics. My point in excepting coaches, or shop teachers, is their passion is likely in the sport they’re coaching or the shop itself. Coaches have to teach, most don’t really want to. This is why they often and stereotypically teach BS classes like history or political science, assign reading assignments and write recyclable multiple choice tests.
And you’re right, there have been incidents of coach/student issues. Kind of my point, though I’m still willing to give a pass to a coach easier than some dude who just wants to teach kindergarten or some shit. There have been issues with female teachers too, but I’m willing to bet as a statistic it’s a much smaller phenomenon and I don’t have an immediate back-of-mind suspicion when I see women working with children.
I don’t want it from either. I’m pointing out that you’re asking for the same thing you’re rejecting, just from the other side of the coin. Same root problem.
This is all something you believe to be true but have nothing of substance to back up.
I don’t even know what you’re trying to say with that.