You Versus Someone Better Looking For A Girl

[quote]Claudan wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Can’t help, I’m always the other guy.

Make more money then him, it’s your only hope seeing how you have no confidence. A Porsche can fix that. [/quote]

You are in la-la land and you pick a PORSCHE? Don’t get me wrong, the car is beautiful and I admire it, but every porsche I see is driven by exactly the type of people who are 100% see-through in their choices.

I’m old as fuck, fucked up hairline and wrinkles, lemme get a Porsche because “it can fix that”.

m3 is where it’s at(if we are talking less than… you know 80k cars). [/quote]

Depends or what part of the country you are in for the car to matter. Where I’m at an M3 or cheap carrera is like a honda accord to folks in cheaper areas. Now a R8 or Lambo might get you somewhere though. By the way I love M3’s personally.

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
Girls hardly care about looks as much as guys do, definitely nothing to worry about. The only thing holding you back is your own thoughts, maybe this is a good time to face your insecurities while also pursuing this chick. At the very least try and ask her out or something. You have not even begun the actual pursuit yet. [/quote]

Well maybe when they’re looking for a mate to settle down with. But when they want to get a quick lay, they are just like us.

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
Girls hardly care about looks as much as guys do, definitely nothing to worry about. The only thing holding you back is your own thoughts, maybe this is a good time to face your insecurities while also pursuing this chick. At the very least try and ask her out or something. You have not even begun the actual pursuit yet. [/quote]

Well maybe when they’re looking for a mate to settle down with. But when they want to get a quick lay, they are just like us. [/quote]

No not so much, even then there is much more to attraction then looks. Looks really means presentation. You don’t have to look like Brad Pitt its more in terms of being well dressed and groomed. Fitting clothes, a good haircut, and actually smelling good go a LONG way. Anyone in here is in shape enough as well. This is only a small part too, there’s also humor, connection both physical and emotional, pre selection like if she sees other chicks hanging around you, getting her to invest in you while you talk, some other things but you get the idea. Its not that difficult and anyone can be “good looking enough” granted they just dress and present themselves half decent.

Forget about asking her out. Just tell her what you are doing and if she’s interested in you she’ll be interested in doing what you are doing.

If not, move on.

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
Girls hardly care about looks as much as guys do, definitely nothing to worry about. The only thing holding you back is your own thoughts, maybe this is a good time to face your insecurities while also pursuing this chick. At the very least try and ask her out or something. You have not even begun the actual pursuit yet. [/quote]

Well maybe when they’re looking for a mate to settle down with. But when they want to get a quick lay, they are just like us. [/quote]

No not so much, even then there is much more to attraction then looks. Looks really means presentation. You don’t have to look like Brad Pitt you its more in terms of being well dressed and groomed. Fitting clothes, a good haircut, and actually smelling good go a LONG way. Anyone in here is in shape enough as well. This is only a small part too, there’s also humor, connection both physical and emotional, pre selection like if she sees other chicks hanging around you, getting her to invest in you while you talk, some other things but you get the idea. Its not that difficult and anyone can be “good looking enough” granted they just dress and present themselves half decent.
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this is a very good point to take note of good sir

Wait until you find them talking together then overhead press him before dropping him mercilessly to the cold hard floor. Beat your chest and let out a Hulk-like roar.

Guaranteed, by the time silence descends she will be wet as an otter’s pocket.

[quote]Grumpig Hunt wrote:
Wait until you find them talking together then overhead press him before dropping him mercilessly to the cold hard floor. Beat your chest and let out a Hulk-like roar.

Guaranteed, by the time silence descends she will be wet as an otter’s pocket.[/quote]

also very good point to take note of

Every morning when you get out of the shower just remind yourself how handsome you are and you’ll actually get more handsome. It works sixty percent of the time, every time.

“Jane you do know I think you’re gorgeous, don’t you?”

[quote]Kakarat wrote:
Every morning when you get out of the shower just remind yourself how handsome you are and you’ll actually get more handsome. It works sixty percent of the time, every time.

“Jane you do know I think you’re gorgeous, don’t you?” [/quote]
Hey, it’s just business. Strictly business.

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
Girls hardly care about looks as much as guys do, definitely nothing to worry about. The only thing holding you back is your own thoughts, maybe this is a good time to face your insecurities while also pursuing this chick. At the very least try and ask her out or something. You have not even begun the actual pursuit yet. [/quote]

Well maybe when they’re looking for a mate to settle down with. But when they want to get a quick lay, they are just like us. [/quote]

No not so much, even then there is much more to attraction then looks. Looks really means presentation. You don’t have to look like Brad Pitt its more in terms of being well dressed and groomed. Fitting clothes, a good haircut, and actually smelling good go a LONG way. Anyone in here is in shape enough as well. This is only a small part too, there’s also humor, connection both physical and emotional, pre selection like if she sees other chicks hanging around you, getting her to invest in you while you talk, some other things but you get the idea. Its not that difficult and anyone can be “good looking enough” granted they just dress and present themselves half decent.
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Pretty much this. Looks are secondary, and a distant second at that. Furthermore, beyond keeping in shape and paying attention to your posture, body language, clothes and personal grooming, there’s F-all you can do about it, but it doesn’t matter. At all. Many of the guys I’ve known who were consistently exceptionally successful with the ladies were the most average looking guys who just had that supreme comfort with themselves that gave them the presence to fill up a room in a way that the flimsy, narcissistic Abercrombie looking dudes could never touch.

The fact that you are intimidated by the prospect of making a play for this girl is precisely why you should do something. We must always move in the direction of our fears, IMO. Even if you just stand there mumbling like a fool and the whole thing is an excruciating ordeal, you will have the opportunity to learn that failure and embarrassment generally won’t kill you, but inaction will. This is an important, life altering fact. No one can tell you this, you must experience it yourself.

It doesn’t matter if you get with this girl or not. It matters that you take the risk. It matters that you dare, and try and fail and crash and burn and dare again. That is what life is. Until you make peace with that you will never have that unshakable confidence that will allow you to succeed.

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[quote]crazyj23 wrote:

[quote]Claudan wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Can’t help, I’m always the other guy.

Make more money then him, it’s your only hope seeing how you have no confidence. A Porsche can fix that. [/quote]

You are in la-la land and you pick a PORSCHE? Don’t get me wrong, the car is beautiful and I admire it, but every porsche I see is driven by exactly the type of people who are 100% see-through in their choices.

I’m old as fuck, fucked up hairline and wrinkles, lemme get a Porsche because “it can fix that”.

m3 is where it’s at(if we are talking less than… you know 80k cars). [/quote]

Depends or what part of the country you are in for the car to matter. Where I’m at an M3 or cheap carrera is like a honda accord to folks in cheaper areas. Now a R8 or Lambo might get you somewhere though. By the way I love M3’s personally. [/quote]

Good thing I qualified my statement with “under 80k” ^^

But yeah, even in that scenario, Lambos are for show offs kinda like Porsches.

If i was picking any car in La La Land I would still go with something that fit my personality and not something that fit into the bitches facebook album.

I don’t care what anyone in this thread says, you should try and do the whole “good looking” thing ASAP.

Makes life just so much easier.

[quote]anonym wrote:
I don’t care what anyone in this thread says, you should try and do the whole “good looking” thing ASAP.

Makes life just so much easier.[/quote]

this, however, since we are talking about attracting women in this thread… my advice to OP would be to do the following:

-quit your job
-drop out of school
-drink heavily and do drugs
-treat females like shit… be blunt and brutal. call them “bitches, whores, c*nts” etc. be very controlling and demeaning… consider physical abuse
-consider contracting std’s, they give you an element of “uniqueness”

you will have more pussy than you will know what to do with.

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
I don’t care what anyone in this thread says, you should try and do the whole “good looking” thing ASAP.

Makes life just so much easier.[/quote]

this, however, since we are talking about attracting women in this thread… my advice to OP would be to do the following:

-quit your job
-drop out of school
-drink heavily and do drugs
-treat females like shit… be blunt and brutal. call them “bitches, whores, c*nts” etc. be very controlling and demeaning… consider physical abuse
-consider contracting std’s, they give you an element of “uniqueness”

you will have more pussy than you will know what to do with. [/quote]
LOL

It isn’t a thread about women until Mr Walkaway makes an appearance.

You do misogyny proud, son.

[quote]theBeth wrote:
It isn’t a thread about women until Mr Walkaway makes an appearance.

You do misogyny proud, son.[/quote]

on the contrary… ive never treated women in such a fashion, im just advising the OP as to what I have witnessed first hand (countless times) to be the fastest and most effective means of bedding females.

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
I don’t care what anyone in this thread says, you should try and do the whole “good looking” thing ASAP.

Makes life just so much easier.[/quote]

this, however, since we are talking about attracting women in this thread… my advice to OP would be to do the following:

-quit your job
-drop out of school
-drink heavily and do drugs
-treat females like shit… be blunt and brutal. call them “bitches, whores, c*nts” etc. be very controlling and demeaning… consider physical abuse
-consider contracting std’s, they give you an element of “uniqueness”

you will have more pussy than you will know what to do with. [/quote]

Hahaha, even though he catches shit for this it is so true of women around my age group. I am 21 btw. Now when women reach the ages of like 25 or so, this probably changes.

Learn to how fight, get some attitude, scars, and a harley.

I like cstratton2’s post on improving your presentation, and I agree with making these external changes (and internal; as noted in his first post) as long as they make you feel better about yourself and ease how you relate to others. At the same time, you shouldn’t invest any energy in making changes in accordance to what you believe this one girl likes, and this is simply because you don’t know her that well. Just keep in mind improvements are best when they move you towards a better version of yourself.

There is an ebb and flow to the process of dating and getting close to someone else, and while the initial call to go out with you is hers, beyond that the decision to continue dating is something the two of you will agree to mutually. Get out of the mindset this girl will steer things from the start, and also realize you’re only interested in her and haven’t yet developed significant feelings to have nerves get in your way. In other words, calm down.

Don’t get it twisted, I’m not ugly by any means. I’m 6’3 215lb and have been with my fair share of women. I’ve never had to “try” with women, so when a better looking guy enters the fray I just naturally prefer to go to the next one where I don’t need to try as hard. Does that make sense?

However, I really like this girl. I really appreciate the replies so far. I think the tough love has motivated me to go for it. I’d say the only thing holding me back now is the fear of rejection. If I swing and miss I fear our entire friendship will collapse. Maybe I should just send subtle hints, judge her reactions and wait for her to move?