I agree that it’s being twisted to fit the terrorist views…
My statement was that this is the book that these assholes use to preach hatred. It is not the book, but the way that it is used and interpreted.
That just reinforces to me that these assholes should not have access to it while they are being detained.
The Bible doesn’t make anyone an intolerant, homophobic, zealot, it’s the way extremists twist the good book to their hatefilled cause that does this.
[quote]Elkhntr1 is:
“hatefilled”
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Right on!
[quote]Cream wrote:
Elkhntr1 is:
“hatefilled”
Right on![/quote]
Why if it isn’t precious! How are you today? It seems like this is a softer gentler side of you, how nice. The Doc’s must be zeroing in on the right dose, good for you!
[quote]Elkhntr1 wrote:
The Bible doesn’t make anyone an intolerant, homophobic, zealot, it’s the way extremists twist the good book to their hatefilled cause that does this.
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I agree, but it also has been used to rationalize homosexual behavior, which is just as sick!
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Elkhntr1 wrote:
The Bible doesn’t make anyone an intolerant, homophobic, zealot, it’s the way extremists twist the good book to their hatefilled cause that does this.
I agree, but it also has been used to rationalize homosexual behavior, which is just as sick!
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The Taliban the evangelicals Zeb, two sides of the same coin.
How can you dislike al qaeda so much? Like you, they want to pass judgement on people and tell them how to live.
[quote]Elkhntr1 wrote:
ZEB wrote:
Elkhntr1 wrote:
The Bible doesn’t make anyone an intolerant, homophobic, zealot, it’s the way extremists twist the good book to their hatefilled cause that does this.
I agree, but it also has been used to rationalize homosexual behavior, which is just as sick!
The Taliban the evangelicals Zeb, two sides of the same coin.
How can you dislike al qaeda so much? Like you, they want to pass judgement on people and tell them how to live.[/quote]
Elk,
I thought you were smarter than that.
I used to respect you.
Now I see you are just another out of control hatefilled liberal.
You help no one, not even yourself!
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Elkhntr1 wrote:
ZEB wrote:
Elkhntr1 wrote:
The Bible doesn’t make anyone an intolerant, homophobic, zealot, it’s the way extremists twist the good book to their hatefilled cause that does this.
I agree, but it also has been used to rationalize homosexual behavior, which is just as sick!
The Taliban the evangelicals Zeb, two sides of the same coin.
How can you dislike al qaeda so much? Like you, they want to pass judgement on people and tell them how to live.
Elk,
I thought you were smarter than that.
I used to respect you.
Now I see you are just another out of control hatefilled liberal.
You help no one, not even yourself!
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You can get your feelings hurt if you want, but that’s the way I see it… no lies… no bullshit!
Religious fanatics are bad either way you cut it!
Some of your beliefs are highly offensive to me like hiding your prejudice behind politically correct comments. “He’s just another black liberal”.
A man is okay as long as in a nice way he doesn’t like gays, minorities who speak their mind, or carries a bible… puleeeeeze!
And, Zeb, sometimes, I like you too, but my lifes not gonna end if you stop respecting or liking me!
Cheers
The strongly religious are blind to the fact that strong views and the enforcement of those strong views on society is the same no matter which religion it comes from.
Religion should govern your personal affairs, not the affairs of your government or the affairs of others. It is a personal thing.
Elk stated:
“How can you dislike al qaeda so much? Like you, they want to pass judgement on people and tell them how to live.”
This was offensive on many levels. First of all I pass judgement on no one! I am not for changing the institution of marriage to accommdodate homosexuals. If that is radical and extreme then I suppose that 67% of the population is also radical and extreme as they do not agree with me.
That is not telling anyone “how to live.” I am for personal freedom and have stated many times that I would defend anyone who had their personal freedoms attacked, including Gays. When you want to change a 5000 year old institution to accomodate about 1% of the population, yea I have a problem with that (and so does the majority).
When you compare those who attend church and believe in God to Al queda, I have a problem with that too. It seems that you are the one with the twisted value system to even think of such a comparison.
You are reminding me more and more of your leader Howard Dean. He spews hate too. The national political climate is turning conservative and you just can’t stand it, so you have to get it out somewhere…Better here than at the top of a roof with a high powered rifle…
[quote]Elkhntr1 wrote:
And, Zeb, sometimes, I like you too, but my lifes not gonna end if you stop respecting or liking me!
Cheers[/quote]
Well, actually it’s good to hear that you are at least that stable.
[quote]vroom wrote:
The strongly religious are blind to the fact that strong views and the enforcement of those strong views on society is the same no matter which religion it comes from.[/quote]
That is an outrageous statement! You are not really telling me that you compare the ancient religious traditions of the Middle East (mostly at the detriment of women) to a Christians view in the US, are you?
Furthermore, please tell me how Christians are “enforcing” their views? Influencing? Yes. Enforcing…not even close!
How did religion govern the affairs of government between 1776 and 1960? It seems that we did pretty well (here in the US) in those almost 200 years. How could we have done so well with prayer in school and the Ten Commandments in courthouses etc.? Expalain that one vroom.
Religion governed nothing! However, the moral tenets which the Bible stands for were respected. Even if the person was not a Christian there was still a solid moral foundation in which he could look upon. Remove that principal (as the courts are slowly doing) and replace it with nothing of value (as is being done) and a legitimate respectful society will suffer!
The age of “relativism” offers nothing!
My mistake this is how the paragraph should have read:
“This was offensive on many levels. First of all I pass judgement on no one! I am not for changing the institution of marriage to accommdodate homosexuals. If that is radical and extreme then I suppose that 67% of the population is also radical and extreme as they agree with me.”
That was an evil little slam. I’d more imagine that would be you – picking off gay couples if they allowed them to be legally married.
Please, please, please, at least leave us the lesbians!!!
Do I think Howard Dean is a god? Hell no! Do I admire him for having the balls to say what he truly thinks without being politically correct? Hell yes!
You are blinded to your own intolerance and desire to “win”. The country is turning conservative… haha it turned conservative alright the last two elections proved that, but with the inept leadership it has shown more people other then the totally extremist American Taliban like you will be changing their minds.
Even the sheep have their tolerance level for discomfort and the more uncomfortable it becomes their fickleness will show!
Zeb, what you fail to realize is that morals can be developed and cherished independent of any particular religion.
What you are looking at is the failure of values to be passed from parent to child across society. Removing religion from schools and institutions of government will do nothing to religion and it will do nothing to society.
People who are not Christian do not look to Christianity to determine their behavior and morals. Neither are they without a moral compass.
Try prying open that mind once in a while and you will see that this is so.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Better here than at the top of a roof with a high powered rifle…
That was an evil little slam. I’d more imagine that would be you – picking off gay couples if they allowed them to be legally married.
Please, please, please, at least leave us the lesbians!!![/quote]
Yes, I know it’s odd to you ultra liberals for someone to have a wife and family attend church and argue for traditional values.
Liberals are now so twisted that that sort of lifestyle is associated with killing people…
And they wonder why their numbers are dwindling…he he
[quote]Elkhntr1 wrote:
Do I think Howard Dean is a god? Hell no! Do I admire him for having the balls to say what he truly thinks without being politically correct? Hell yes.[/quote]
I admire what he has to say too…“YIHAA.” I loved it man!
I’m intolerant beause I have taken an opposing view to your more liberal take on things? What a whacky thing to say.
It only takes a few posts for traditional values for the liberals to accuse you of being a “Tailban.” I wonder what sort of stance they really have… other than ignorance that is.
People are indeed fickle. However, you are going to have to hope beyond hope (I would say pray, but I don’t want to send you into yet another tangent 
that the GOP makes some huge errors. Not the imagined errors that you have been claiming, but real ones. You know like the economy crashing, Iraq getting worse…You know things that many leftist whackos hope for.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Even if the person was not a Christian there was still a solid moral foundation in which he could look upon. Remove that principal (as the courts are slowly doing) and replace it with nothing of value (as is being done) and a legitimate respectful society will suffer!
I agree, but not in an age of relativism.
We are going to find out huh?
Oh I know, I have many friends who are non-Christian and are fine people. The problem is what about the rest? Is it not better to have at least a standard of right and wrong? I think it is.
My mind is wide open. Just because I don’t swallow the latest liberal propaganda does not mean that I am not open to new GOOD ideas.
The idea of moral relativism is unapealling for many, many reasons.