[quote]debraD wrote:
I run about 40 miles a week and manage to keep my leg muscles just fine As long as you eat for it I say it’s all good, depending on your body of course. [/quote]
That’s good to hear Deb, thanks It gives me hope. I’ve actually never had a hard time keeping the muscle on my legs…the difference to me as far as running and lifting is that I just tend to stay a little softer looking since I end up eating way more during my racing season. I was looking at Surge Recovery and I’m thinking that might be a really good thing for me to do right after my long runs…any thoughts?
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I’ve used Surge and it seemed to work fine and I’m sure it’s all hi-tech and whatnot. But, for the last 6 months or so I’ve used (for weight-training not running but recovery is recovery) powdered Gatorade, whey (50/50 ratio) and creatine. For post-running, I would likely up the carb %. [/quote]
Hhmm…that sounds interesting. The only thing that worries me is that I’ve read a few articles that say creatine can cause muscles to tear/pull easily. I used it for lifting but with running I might be a little wary.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
It all depends of your goals. I used to race (5Ks, 10Ks, sprint triathlons) and started lifting with the goal of getting faster. Then one day I found myself at the start line wondering why I was doing this shit when all I really wanted to do was lift. Once I cut out [most of the] cardio, my numbers skyrocketed in the gym.[/quote]
If I ever get to the point where it doesn’t make me happy I would most definitely back off the running
[quote]Cal Jones wrote:
Ultras? And I thought my 10Ks were contraversial! I’m mainly about the weights but I enjoy the running - however I generally stick to one run a week. Two max. Trained for my last 10K with one run a week and on a low carb diet. Still broke my PB…though admittedly my PB is only just under an hour so I can hardly be called a runner.
Just be aware of the fact that running does beat the shit out of your joints, especially if you’re running roads, and it can tear down your immune system as well. I only ever run in parks and commons (I’m in London so commons are the closest I get to nature) to save my knees. As a weight-consious teen, I took to pounding the pavements twice daily, and I am paying for it now in spades.
I’d advise against running four days in a row - give yourself a running break at least every other day. Get regular ART, take glutamine, a joint cap (I take glucosamine/chondroitin/MSM all in ones) and plenty of fish oils.
Best of luck to you. Going by the pics you’ve been posting on SAMA, you’re looking pretty good so you’re obviously doing something right.[/quote]
Thanks Cal! I think 10k’s are actually the perfect distance. And normally I would never run 4 days in a row but this race in August is 113 miles back to back for 6 days so they suggest the training kinda mimic that stress your body will be put through. I’ve trained and run a ton of other ultras so I’m pretty good at knowing how my body reacts but I couldn’t agree with you more about the pavement…thats why most of my races are on trails (and so is my training). I’m looking forward to at least trying this to see what I can do
Yeah, I can see there’s method to your madness. I think running for an hour is plenty enough for me though I’d be tempted to try a half. I was signed up to do a 15K last December but sprained my ankle badly in September and messed up my foot (which still bothers me a bit - I have an extra bone which has now become a bit snarky) so I had to give that one a miss. But maybe this year, if everything goes to plan.
You’ve definitely got a nicely developed tibialis anterior there - I bet that’s more from running than weights, eh?
[quote]debraD wrote:
I run about 40 miles a week and manage to keep my leg muscles just fine As long as you eat for it I say it’s all good, depending on your body of course. [/quote]
That’s good to hear Deb, thanks It gives me hope. I’ve actually never had a hard time keeping the muscle on my legs…the difference to me as far as running and lifting is that I just tend to stay a little softer looking since I end up eating way more during my racing season. I was looking at Surge Recovery and I’m thinking that might be a really good thing for me to do right after my long runs…any thoughts?
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I’ve used Surge and it seemed to work fine and I’m sure it’s all hi-tech and whatnot. But, for the last 6 months or so I’ve used (for weight-training not running but recovery is recovery) powdered Gatorade, whey (50/50 ratio) and creatine. For post-running, I would likely up the carb %. [/quote]
Hhmm…that sounds interesting. The only thing that worries me is that I’ve read a few articles that say creatine can cause muscles to tear/pull easily. I used it for lifting but with running I might be a little wary.
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Not saying you are wrong, but I have never seen anything to suggest a risk of tears or pulls from creatine use. Cramping, muscular and abdominal, has been reported by some but there is a suggestion that additional hydration is required. and I know sprinters use it but I’m not sure about distance runners. The most important aspect is the simple carbs and protein. You can get fancier with particular types of those but the basics will work.
[quote]Mascherano wrote:
Nice! Your training looks great!
That’s some pretty high volume stuff you got going on there. I’ll be following along.[/quote]
Thanks!! I would love to see what my max is on a few of these things…I’m just always too afraid to try it since I train alone. When I walked back to the leg press it was completely loaded up so I started taking a few plates off and this guy began “helping” me and took almost everything off! I was like, um, can you put a few of those back on please??
Just dropping in to say hi! I’ll definitely be following along.
Like others who have commented, I’m not one for running long distances (I will admit I ran cross country for a bit). However, if it’s your thing, then we won’t hate on you too much.
Crappiest. Workout. Ever. I’ve been dealing with tendonitis in my right elbow and it just keeps getting worse. Today was shoulders and I couldn’t even lift a 15 pound db up for front raises let alone lifting a 20 pounder for lateral raises I normally do alot of DB work for my shoulders but since it hurt so bad I altered my workout some to incorporate machines/cables. The weight is ridiculously light but I really didn’t want to aggravate anything. Its not only the strain of lifting the weight that hurts but the gripping motion as well.
a doc told me that lat & shoulder raises were terrible for elbow tendonitis. if the gripping is hurting as well, i’d give that stuff a rest. if your grip is ok, DB presses, arnold press and such shouldn’t cause too much trouble…just my .02 cents however.
oh, hi and welcome to PW. i liked running shorter distances but i developed a heel spur. no more running.
[quote]OnMyOwn32 wrote:
Thanks for not hatin on me too much JM
Crappiest. Workout. Ever. I’ve been dealing with tendonitis in my right elbow and it just keeps getting worse. Today was shoulders and I couldn’t even lift a 15 pound db up for front raises let alone lifting a 20 pounder for lateral raises I normally do alot of DB work for my shoulders but since it hurt so bad I altered my workout some to incorporate machines/cables. The weight is ridiculously light but I really didn’t want to aggravate anything. Its not only the strain of lifting the weight that hurts but the gripping motion as well.
I’ve had tendinitis in my right elbow for about 9 months. Almost gone now. I recommend you get a neoprene sleeve for your elbow (actually wear them on both). The support and warmth really helped with recovery. If I wore them pre-injury I may not have had a problem. You are doing the right thing by avoiding movements that hurt. Machines and cables are a smart choice.
Meh. Sucks about the tendonitis. I don’t know anything about tendonitis, but the warmth and stability sounds like a good idea. That’s what I’m doing with the hamstring strain, and it feels much better.
Also I feel that ibuprofen for the inflammation really helped recovery. Ice after training and heat at night is supposed to have some benefit but I didn’t do those that much.
And, taking time off from training, or not training that part of the body, until it heals doesn’t work for those that are trying to build a physique. You could be out of the gym for weeks before you saw any real improvement. A few days rest will have minimal impact as tendons heal very slowly. The best course is to train around it. It will get better. From personal experience, the tendency will be to switch movements too soon when it starts to feel better and re-aggravate so be patient.
I doubt you’re “fat!” A few days of clean eats and good exercise and you’ll be hotter than hot again. I have always wondered about how figure comps might mess with the metabolism, tho.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
I doubt you’re “fat!” A few days of clean eats and good exercise and you’ll be hotter than hot again. I have always wondered about how figure comps might mess with the metabolism, tho. [/quote]
They mess with the metabolism, and they mess with the MIND. Getting back to a more maintainable level of leanness is a good thing OMO.
As long as you eat for it I say it’s all good, depending on your body of course. [/quote]
I normally do alot of DB work for my shoulders but since it hurt so bad I altered my workout some to incorporate machines/cables. The weight is ridiculously light but I really didn’t want to aggravate anything. Its not only the strain of lifting the weight that hurts but the gripping motion as well.