You know roybot you just proved to the world that you are a fucking idiot cause my birthday is in September (10th) so In the time I wrote the other post I was 4 months shy of turning 25 and now I am 3 days short of 26
SO U just proved to everybody how thick you really are, and mate if you have some free time on your hands go do some math skills or something you idiot nincampoop
roybot, please show some respect for the egyptianHulk, it is not all who can claim the strength of 30000 men. Allah is great!
[quote]egyptianBulk wrote:
You know roybot you just proved to the world that you are a fucking idiot cause my birthday is in September (10th) so In the time I wrote the other post I was 4 months shy of turning 25 and now I am 3 days short of 26 SO U just proved to everybody how thick you really are, and mate if you have some free time on your hands go do some math skills or something you idiot nincampoop [/quote]
Your profile says that you are 25, so it’s entirely your own fault if you fill in your date of birth and then for no apparent reason announce your birthday three days before it arrives… If you want get really technical, you declared your age as 26 on the 28th of August; a whopping eleven days ago. I know birthdays are exciting, but people usually get excited on their birthday.
If it’s that big a deal to you I’ll send you an e-card and maybe a small / postage friendly, yet strangely personal fluffy toy.
But to get back on track - yes I’m the idiot with something to prove to the world, so I have to shoulder the blame for all of the above, obviously (duh!). I should’ve known that your amateurish trolling, pathetically transparent attempts at fishing for an emotional response from passing trollees, your fantasy island claims, your relentless assault on the English language - which is so precise that I’d be selling your skills short if I described them as mere butchery (and they are skills. That kind of dumb assery demands hours of oxygen deprivation). It’s more appropriate to call them an assassination of the English language…(I was going to go with ‘carpet bombing’ but we’re not quite there yet) yep, you are the Lee Harvey Oswald of trolls - are all just part of your meticulously engineered plan of exposing my faults and failings to the world.
Honestly, dude: if you thought I needed to brush up on my math, you could’ve just said that in the first place… no need to labor the point 
[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
roybot, please show some respect for the egyptianHulk [/quote]
He tried to make me angry. He didn’t like me when I wasn’t angry.
Mate, you win, now I posted this because I want some help and frank opinions and help. So please stop wasting both of our times. Ok have a great life…
[quote]egyptianBulk wrote:
Ok the nutritionist is Legit he is currently working for El Shahat Mabrouk and Anwar Al Amawy both IFBB Amateur World Champions, plus he is the nutritionist for the Egyptian Powerlifting Federation (Fuck I must have looked like an Ignoramus asking for his credentials)
Great guy
Tells me he’s seen my likes before and I am a nutritionists worst nightmare. Well he didn’t give me quite the detailed plan in terms of food, but gives me General guidelines and workout notes, and I will visit him for tune ups every 6 weeks
For Nutrition:
Eat all the protein you could get your hands on all day long.
For Breakfast:
8 egg omlette + 1 whole wheat toast+ fresh orange Juice+ 2 Black Coffees
Supps: 2 Fish oil+ 2 Multi vits+ Iodine+ 3 HydroxyCut Hardcore
Snack 1:
2 Scoops whey+ 16Oz skimmed Milk
Lunch:
ALl the protein I could get (even if it has or is cooked with fat) and he gave me a 1 whole chicken or 1 pound of beef minimum + Green Salad + Apple+ 2 table spoons of rice}+ Black coffee
Snack 2:
2 Scoops of whey+2 dose Creatine+ 3 hydroxycut HC
2 tuna cans in brine with 1 whole wheat toast
Pre Workout
1 dose creatine+ 1 scoop of whey+ BCAA+ Black Coffee
During Workout
Isotonic drink+ 1 scoop whey
Post workout
2 dose creatine
I large strip of Beef Jerky
Dinner (4 hours before sleep)
2 tuna cans+ 1 whole wheat toast
For workout he told me to train like a power lifter but at the last set to go to 50% of what I was using and go for Reps till I can’t nudge the weight
For cardio he said that my currrent steady state (20 minuites to work and back) is ok but I need to add twice a week some uphill sprinting (10x30m)
He told me lift like an animal and anything that had a soul once eat until you puke, he tells me in 6 weeks I will get measured again, and he bets I will lose around 4-5% bf.
Also I begin to pay starting next visit (first visit is free)
So opinions are quite appreciated
[/quote]
I’d pretty much agree with most of what he’s said. Some of which I’ve already advised you - low carb diet (in other words do a high protein/moderate-high fat diet), doing HIIT/sprinting twice a week, focusing on good strength training to increase/maintain muscle mass (for a good metabolism). The only part I’d slightly “err” with is the drop the load to 50% and rep out - personally, I wouldn’t drop it THAT low, more like to 70% 1RM and rep out (typically, this would be about 20-25% less weight of what you were using). Other than getting nutrients into the muscles I see very little benefit from doing 20+ rep sets (typically 50% RM)…except for maybe legs.
I agree that you have a very robust frame (good for powerlifting) and should work with that in a kind of “power-building” fashion (focus on getting stronger and bigger - don’t keep swapping exercises, and don’t neglect muscle groups either). I didn’t say much about it before because you mentioned something about injuries/joint problems?
It’s also true that you should be expected to lose around 4-5% bf in 6 weeks - he’s actually playing it safe by saying that - if done correctly it wouldn’t be unusual to lose 6%+ especially in your first 6 weeks of intensive work/diet.
As regards being a nutritionist’s nightmare - have to agree there too 
Simply because especially at first, you’ll just need to improve on the basics (sticking to a plan)…which is why he gave you an outline and not specific calorie intakes every day (in other words, “walk before you run”). To be honest, you can’t go wrong with a nutritionist at your side (and you will be ahead of most who have to learn the “hard way”), but at the same time I would have saved it until I really got stuck (like at the leaner stages) before I hired a nutritionist since at this stage you can get much leaner on just the basics which you can easily learn.
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
[quote]egyptianBulk wrote:
Ok the nutritionist is Legit he is currently working for El Shahat Mabrouk and Anwar Al Amawy both IFBB Amateur World Champions, plus he is the nutritionist for the Egyptian Powerlifting Federation (Fuck I must have looked like an Ignoramus asking for his credentials)
Great guy
Tells me he’s seen my likes before and I am a nutritionists worst nightmare. Well he didn’t give me quite the detailed plan in terms of food, but gives me General guidelines and workout notes, and I will visit him for tune ups every 6 weeks
For Nutrition:
Eat all the protein you could get your hands on all day long.
For Breakfast:
8 egg omlette + 1 whole wheat toast+ fresh orange Juice+ 2 Black Coffees
Supps: 2 Fish oil+ 2 Multi vits+ Iodine+ 3 HydroxyCut Hardcore
Snack 1:
2 Scoops whey+ 16Oz skimmed Milk
Lunch:
ALl the protein I could get (even if it has or is cooked with fat) and he gave me a 1 whole chicken or 1 pound of beef minimum + Green Salad + Apple+ 2 table spoons of rice}+ Black coffee
Snack 2:
2 Scoops of whey+2 dose Creatine+ 3 hydroxycut HC
2 tuna cans in brine with 1 whole wheat toast
Pre Workout
1 dose creatine+ 1 scoop of whey+ BCAA+ Black Coffee
During Workout
Isotonic drink+ 1 scoop whey
Post workout
2 dose creatine
I large strip of Beef Jerky
Dinner (4 hours before sleep)
2 tuna cans+ 1 whole wheat toast
For workout he told me to train like a power lifter but at the last set to go to 50% of what I was using and go for Reps till I can’t nudge the weight
For cardio he said that my currrent steady state (20 minuites to work and back) is ok but I need to add twice a week some uphill sprinting (10x30m)
He told me lift like an animal and anything that had a soul once eat until you puke, he tells me in 6 weeks I will get measured again, and he bets I will lose around 4-5% bf.
Also I begin to pay starting next visit (first visit is free)
So opinions are quite appreciated
[/quote]
I’d pretty much agree with most of what he’s said. Some of which I’ve already advised you - low carb diet (in other words do a high protein/moderate-high fat diet), doing HIIT/sprinting twice a week, focusing on good strength training to increase/maintain muscle mass (for a good metabolism). The only part I’d slightly “err” with is the drop the load to 50% and rep out - personally, I wouldn’t drop it THAT low, more like to 70% 1RM and rep out (typically, this would be about 20-25% less weight of what you were using). Other than getting nutrients into the muscles I see very little benefit from doing 20+ rep sets (typically 50% RM)…except for maybe legs.
I agree that you have a very robust frame (good for powerlifting) and should work with that in a kind of “power-building” fashion (focus on getting stronger and bigger - don’t keep swapping exercises, and don’t neglect muscle groups either). I didn’t say much about it before because you mentioned something about injuries/joint problems?
It’s also true that you should be expected to lose around 4-5% bf in 6 weeks - he’s actually playing it safe by saying that - if done correctly it wouldn’t be unusual to lose 6%+ especially in your first 6 weeks of intensive work/diet.
As regards being a nutritionist’s nightmare - have to agree there too Simply because especially at first, you’ll just need to improve on the basics (sticking to a plan)…which is why he gave you an outline and not specific calorie intakes every day (in other words, “walk before you run”). To be honest, you can’t go wrong with a nutritionist at your side (and you will be ahead of most who have to learn the “hard way”), but at the same time I would have saved it until I really got stuck (like at the leaner stages) before I hired a nutritionist since at this stage you can get much leaner on just the basics which you can easily learn.[/quote]
Mate, I still haven’t paid anything and I am already falling down the BF% scale, so do you think I should wait till I reach sub 20% or a plateau which ever comes first then hire him
As well mate, your %RM idea is very valid yesterday I dropped to 50% for one set and popped 33 counts and I thought this couldnt be right so I upped the weight to around 75% and popped 18.
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
[quote]egyptianBulk wrote:
Ok the nutritionist is Legit he is currently working for El Shahat Mabrouk and Anwar Al Amawy both IFBB Amateur World Champions, plus he is the nutritionist for the Egyptian Powerlifting Federation (Fuck I must have looked like an Ignoramus asking for his credentials)
Great guy
Tells me he’s seen my likes before and I am a nutritionists worst nightmare. Well he didn’t give me quite the detailed plan in terms of food, but gives me General guidelines and workout notes, and I will visit him for tune ups every 6 weeks
For Nutrition:
Eat all the protein you could get your hands on all day long.
For Breakfast:
8 egg omlette + 1 whole wheat toast+ fresh orange Juice+ 2 Black Coffees
Supps: 2 Fish oil+ 2 Multi vits+ Iodine+ 3 HydroxyCut Hardcore
Snack 1:
2 Scoops whey+ 16Oz skimmed Milk
Lunch:
ALl the protein I could get (even if it has or is cooked with fat) and he gave me a 1 whole chicken or 1 pound of beef minimum + Green Salad + Apple+ 2 table spoons of rice}+ Black coffee
Snack 2:
2 Scoops of whey+2 dose Creatine+ 3 hydroxycut HC
2 tuna cans in brine with 1 whole wheat toast
Pre Workout
1 dose creatine+ 1 scoop of whey+ BCAA+ Black Coffee
During Workout
Isotonic drink+ 1 scoop whey
Post workout
2 dose creatine
I large strip of Beef Jerky
Dinner (4 hours before sleep)
2 tuna cans+ 1 whole wheat toast
For workout he told me to train like a power lifter but at the last set to go to 50% of what I was using and go for Reps till I can’t nudge the weight
For cardio he said that my currrent steady state (20 minuites to work and back) is ok but I need to add twice a week some uphill sprinting (10x30m)
He told me lift like an animal and anything that had a soul once eat until you puke, he tells me in 6 weeks I will get measured again, and he bets I will lose around 4-5% bf.
Also I begin to pay starting next visit (first visit is free)
So opinions are quite appreciated
[/quote]
I’d pretty much agree with most of what he’s said. Some of which I’ve already advised you - low carb diet (in other words do a high protein/moderate-high fat diet), doing HIIT/sprinting twice a week, focusing on good strength training to increase/maintain muscle mass (for a good metabolism). The only part I’d slightly “err” with is the drop the load to 50% and rep out - personally, I wouldn’t drop it THAT low, more like to 70% 1RM and rep out (typically, this would be about 20-25% less weight of what you were using). Other than getting nutrients into the muscles I see very little benefit from doing 20+ rep sets (typically 50% RM)…except for maybe legs.
I agree that you have a very robust frame (good for powerlifting) and should work with that in a kind of “power-building” fashion (focus on getting stronger and bigger - don’t keep swapping exercises, and don’t neglect muscle groups either). I didn’t say much about it before because you mentioned something about injuries/joint problems?
It’s also true that you should be expected to lose around 4-5% bf in 6 weeks - he’s actually playing it safe by saying that - if done correctly it wouldn’t be unusual to lose 6%+ especially in your first 6 weeks of intensive work/diet.
As regards being a nutritionist’s nightmare - have to agree there too Simply because especially at first, you’ll just need to improve on the basics (sticking to a plan)…which is why he gave you an outline and not specific calorie intakes every day (in other words, “walk before you run”). To be honest, you can’t go wrong with a nutritionist at your side (and you will be ahead of most who have to learn the “hard way”), but at the same time I would have saved it until I really got stuck (like at the leaner stages) before I hired a nutritionist since at this stage you can get much leaner on just the basics which you can easily learn.[/quote]
Well i would agree with what you said, but the last set or so is more for tendon breakdown, this is a no brainer when it comes to lifting very heavy weight then repping out. its to build elasticity in the tendons and ligaments, also helps stretch muscle fascia.
But EBulk man i think post workout you would benefit better from whey than Jerky. its absorbed 6 times faster than straight meat.
[quote]egyptianBulk wrote:
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
[quote]egyptianBulk wrote:
Ok the nutritionist is Legit he is currently working for El Shahat Mabrouk and Anwar Al Amawy both IFBB Amateur World Champions, plus he is the nutritionist for the Egyptian Powerlifting Federation (Fuck I must have looked like an Ignoramus asking for his credentials)
Great guy
Tells me he’s seen my likes before and I am a nutritionists worst nightmare. Well he didn’t give me quite the detailed plan in terms of food, but gives me General guidelines and workout notes, and I will visit him for tune ups every 6 weeks
For Nutrition:
Eat all the protein you could get your hands on all day long.
For Breakfast:
8 egg omlette + 1 whole wheat toast+ fresh orange Juice+ 2 Black Coffees
Supps: 2 Fish oil+ 2 Multi vits+ Iodine+ 3 HydroxyCut Hardcore
Snack 1:
2 Scoops whey+ 16Oz skimmed Milk
Lunch:
ALl the protein I could get (even if it has or is cooked with fat) and he gave me a 1 whole chicken or 1 pound of beef minimum + Green Salad + Apple+ 2 table spoons of rice}+ Black coffee
Snack 2:
2 Scoops of whey+2 dose Creatine+ 3 hydroxycut HC
2 tuna cans in brine with 1 whole wheat toast
Pre Workout
1 dose creatine+ 1 scoop of whey+ BCAA+ Black Coffee
During Workout
Isotonic drink+ 1 scoop whey
Post workout
2 dose creatine
I large strip of Beef Jerky
Dinner (4 hours before sleep)
2 tuna cans+ 1 whole wheat toast
For workout he told me to train like a power lifter but at the last set to go to 50% of what I was using and go for Reps till I can’t nudge the weight
For cardio he said that my currrent steady state (20 minuites to work and back) is ok but I need to add twice a week some uphill sprinting (10x30m)
He told me lift like an animal and anything that had a soul once eat until you puke, he tells me in 6 weeks I will get measured again, and he bets I will lose around 4-5% bf.
Also I begin to pay starting next visit (first visit is free)
So opinions are quite appreciated
[/quote]
I’d pretty much agree with most of what he’s said. Some of which I’ve already advised you - low carb diet (in other words do a high protein/moderate-high fat diet), doing HIIT/sprinting twice a week, focusing on good strength training to increase/maintain muscle mass (for a good metabolism). The only part I’d slightly “err” with is the drop the load to 50% and rep out - personally, I wouldn’t drop it THAT low, more like to 70% 1RM and rep out (typically, this would be about 20-25% less weight of what you were using). Other than getting nutrients into the muscles I see very little benefit from doing 20+ rep sets (typically 50% RM)…except for maybe legs.
I agree that you have a very robust frame (good for powerlifting) and should work with that in a kind of “power-building” fashion (focus on getting stronger and bigger - don’t keep swapping exercises, and don’t neglect muscle groups either). I didn’t say much about it before because you mentioned something about injuries/joint problems?
It’s also true that you should be expected to lose around 4-5% bf in 6 weeks - he’s actually playing it safe by saying that - if done correctly it wouldn’t be unusual to lose 6%+ especially in your first 6 weeks of intensive work/diet.
As regards being a nutritionist’s nightmare - have to agree there too Simply because especially at first, you’ll just need to improve on the basics (sticking to a plan)…which is why he gave you an outline and not specific calorie intakes every day (in other words, “walk before you run”). To be honest, you can’t go wrong with a nutritionist at your side (and you will be ahead of most who have to learn the “hard way”), but at the same time I would have saved it until I really got stuck (like at the leaner stages) before I hired a nutritionist since at this stage you can get much leaner on just the basics which you can easily learn.[/quote]
Mate, I still haven’t paid anything and I am already falling down the BF% scale, so do you think I should wait till I reach sub 20% or a plateau which ever comes first then hire him [/quote]
Tate says if your too lazy to learn on your own pay someone to do it for your.
[quote]egyptianBulk wrote:
Mate, I still haven’t paid anything and I am already falling down the BF% scale, so do you think I should wait till I reach sub 20% or a plateau which ever comes first then hire him [/quote]
It depends on your budget and how quickly you want it. With the dietitian you will get quicker results likely, and at least you’ll learn quickly so you’ll know what to do next time you need to trim.
But if you want to carry on yourself until you plateau, that’s a good option too. Most don’t have a problem getting under 20% bf - this is pretty straight forward (just don’t starve your way there). For someone of your body-type, it may take longer to get closer to 10%. Bear in mind that it’s not good to diet for too long a period (say no more than 4 months in a row), otherwise you risk losing muscle/slowing metabolism.
Better to split it up - say you go from 25% bf to 20% bf in 3 months…you would then just eat according to your appetite (which, if you don’t over-do it, will be close to maintenance intake or slightly above) for about a month before going back into another 3 months of intensive dieting again.
Hey, wasn’t this the fat guy who claimed to eat 2 meals a day, one being like half a pound of ham and the other a bucket of mac n “cheese”?
[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
roybot, please show some respect for the egyptianHulk, it is not all who can claim the strength of 30000 men. Allah is great!
that is the most ridiculous shit i’ve ever fucking seen! Those reporters cant possible believe what he’s saying?
Has this been posted on T Nation before?
Offcourse not he’s a fucking nincampoop and the reporters got him to make fun of him worst of all he think its wrong to demonstrate his strength wink wink