Wrestling Help (Losing Weight)

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Hey guys I’m not really a ‘i have no idea what weight lifting is’ type beginner, but I still am beginning at weight lifting. My problem is I want to wrestle 152 pounds, and I normally weigh around 162. For the past three weeks I’ve been really watching what I eat (I do normally, but now I’m cutting carbs out of my diet) and working out and doing sprints.

So far I’m only at 160, 159 on good days. My question is, can you guys help me lose ideally around 6 pounds? I can cut weight, I just like starting the year with the least amount of weight possible to cut.

Right now I:
Eat mostly eggs, apples, broccoli, tomatoes, tuna, anything healthy I can get my hands on, because at times I really don’t have a choice.

I’m 5’10’’ body fat % 12-15

I have a weight lifting class, and by the time we get done with leg stretches. LEG STRETCHES FOR A UPPERBODY WORKOUT how stupid. and a 1/4 mile jog, I usually have about 40 minutes of workout time left.

I longboard(skateboard) to school and back (3 miles there).

Any help would be great. Wrestling practice starts Oct 22, so I’m hoping to be at my goal by then…

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I’ve wrestled since I was 6 and I have found the weirdest ways to make weight. One is, if you have somewhere that is indoors, and not “cold”, put on your coat and some heavy pants, and run laps. We do this in my school, put a stocking hat on, some winter clothes, and run.

Also, when you hungry (imbetween meals) have a sucker instead of eating. For some odd reason as well, my friend an I lost 2 pounds each, by getting in a bad habit of spitting. You lose water weight that is crucial for that weigh-in before a tournament. All that sounds weird but good luck!

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Cutting weight ism’t all it is cracked up to be. You scrub a lot of energy and strength too. Dehydrating cells of energy substrate is never a good idea, neither is sweating and pissing out all of your electrolytes.

Best bet is to get as strong as you can at the weight which you naturaly exist. Eat well, lift for limit strength and explosive strength with emphasis on the posterior chain.

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Cutting weight ism’t all it is cracked up to be. You scrub a lot of energy and strength too. Dehydrating cells of energy substrate is never a good idea, neither is sweating and pissing out all of your electrolytes.

Best bet is to get as strong as you can at the weight which you naturaly exist. Eat well, lift for limit strength and explosive strength with emphasis on the posterior chain.
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Funny, I know a guy who wrestled at the Olympics for Canada and I’ve heard that he would regularly be 8kg(~17.5 pounds) over his weight the day before weigh-ins. Take a look at some of the top guys in any weight category the day of weigh-ins and then the day later at the tournament, you tell me the ones who cut weight don’t have a physical advantage over the ones who naturally sit at their weight.

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I agree with the dehydration comment. Dehydrating yourself to make weight might be old school wrestling technique, but that doesn’t make it anything more than stupid. Sure, you’d meet weight, but you’d get your ass handed to you by someone who didn’t drop all that water weight and dry their cells up.

Your low-carb approach is a good idea, but I get the feeling you’re not cutting nearly as many carbs from your diet as you think. Try a carb-cycling approach of 5 days at less than 30g of carbs per day, with a repleneshing day of about 1g of carb per lb of bodyweight on the 6th day.

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Laxatives?

Anyone else think that they are a good idea to lose weight fast-ish.

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Why are you, wanting to lose. If you, are 5’10" at 162#. You are already at your limit, period. You, should be fairly skinny. You, want to know add to that frame w/muscle. You, need to go up in a weight class.

Rule of thumb, here for wrestler’s. Try to go up a weight class every Year you, wrestle. ie. 147, 152, 160, 170. What you, will find is you’ll become stronger and have more stamina.

Do not let your self get dehydrated trying to lose weight. You, will lose your stamina big time.

I would love to know the Sadistic son of bitch. Who put the wrestling season, right in the good eating season. How many of us masochistic wrestler’s have stood w/the refrig door open looking at food we, cannot eat.

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Phookin fingers. Not KNOW, BUT NOW.

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I thought I posted this before, but I had to re-log in so I guess it didn’t get through

You guys, I wasn’t asking how to CUT weight. I wanted to LOSE weight. There’s a big difference and 152 is what I want to wrestle, and I know I can safely get down there. All your cutting weight techniques only work for a few days, I’m trying to sustain this weight for the entire season.

The Jonty is right too, you have 1 hour after you weigh in before you wrestle. If I cut 4 or 5 pounds, weigh in, then eat like crazy (my stomach’s a beast so I never throw up) and drink a ton of water, I’m going to be at my normal weight before the match. The other guy who didn’t cut…I’m going to have 5 pounds on him, which is a lot when you need every advantage you can get.

Thanks for the advice Contrl, I’m going to see how many carbs I actually take in on a daily basis and try your advice.

58 buggs, last year I wrestled 145, and this year I’m wrestling 152, that is a weight class up. and my freshman year I was 140. All the same height too…

I will admit though, I’ve cut weight and had to wrestle kids a weight class up from me, and this one kid beat me pretty badly and I almost blacked out from it. A little later in the season I bumped a weight class up, and didn’t cut weight. I wrestled the same kid again, and barely lost. He and I both were eventually wrestling in the losers bracket and wrestling for 3rd place. I somehow had the strength and willpower to beat that kid.
I wrote that out because I just realized that not cutting weight might have had something to do with it.

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Well, if you only have one hour after you weigh-in before the tournament starts, I wouldn’t recommend chowing down too much, because even if your stomach’s a “beast” and you don’t hurl, you’ll still feel bloated and feel like a big heap of shit. What I was referring to in my last post was tournaments where the weigh-in is the night before the tournament, and you have like 15 hours to rebound; if you only have 1 hour to rebound, you probably don’t want to cut as much weight. If it’s only 4-5 you might be okay though.

As for your story, if you cut weight then wrestle a weight class up anyways, you’re just putting yourself at a disadvantage because you cut the weight for nothing. Of course you’ll feel better if you don’t cut weight down below the weight class you’re wrestling.

As far as losing weight goes, that’s a nutritional thing, and that’s not my strong point, I was just responding to the guy up top who said cutting weight’s not all it’s cracked up to be.

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Get down to 157 in the evening witch should leave you at like 153-154 in the morning. Don’t listen to people who say don;t cut weight 5 pounds above class is perfect in morning your at most 2 pounds over. The studies saying that is bad are bs inless you are not well hydrated at 157.

It’s basicly just being in shape vs being in wrestling shape and you only need to make 152 like 2 times the other times are 2 day seated tournaments with at least hour and a half 2 hours before first match after weight in.

However loseing a ton of weight is no good but I hate when people are like 158 in decent shape and are told to go 160 thats bullshit you don’t lose performance from sweating of 2 pounds and putting it back on.

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[quote]TheJonty wrote:
Well, if you only have one hour after you weigh-in before the tournament starts, I wouldn’t recommend chowing down too much, because even if your stomach’s a “beast” and you don’t hurl, you’ll still feel bloated and feel like a big heap of shit. What I was referring to in my last post was tournaments where the weigh-in is the night before the tournament, and you have like 15 hours to rebound; if you only have 1 hour to rebound, you probably don’t want to cut as much weight. If it’s only 4-5 you might be okay though.

As for your story, if you cut weight then wrestle a weight class up anyways, you’re just putting yourself at a disadvantage because you cut the weight for nothing. Of course you’ll feel better if you don’t cut weight down below the weight class you’re wrestling.

As far as losing weight goes, that’s a nutritional thing, and that’s not my strong point, I was just responding to the guy up top who said cutting weight’s not all it’s cracked up to be.[/quote]

I figured you might’ve been talking about the older, “weighing in the night before” idea they used to do. But I did it every year last year, and I felt fine. I probably spent 5 minutes at a water fountain drinking water. I ate a subway like sandwich, had goldfish or something, oranges, a granola bar…sometimes different things that people bring in.

And when I cut weight, and end up wrestling a weight class up, it’s my coaches fault. They always tell me to cut weight, and for tournaments, they put me up against the guy I have a better chance of winning against. 152 is a VERY easy weight class, so that’s really why I want to do it

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[quote]dylan10507 wrote:
Get down to 157 in the evening witch should leave you at like 153-154 in the morning. Don’t listen to people who say don;t cut weight 5 pounds above class is perfect in morning your at most 2 pounds over. The studies saying that is bad are bs inless you are not well hydrated at 157.

It’s basicly just being in shape vs being in wrestling shape and you only need to make 152 like 2 times the other times are 2 day seated tournaments with at least hour and a half 2 hours before first match after weight in.

However loseing a ton of weight is no good but I hate when people are like 158 in decent shape and are told to go 160 thats bullshit you don’t lose performance from sweating of 2 pounds and putting it back on.[/quote]

Yeah, I get where you’re coming from. I’m not disagreeing with you, but if I did what you’re saying, it would not work and I would never make weight. First, I lose a pound in one night, like most people do.

Secondly, I lose 1 pound for every mile I run, so if I was 157 the night before, I’d be 156 in the morning, so I’d have to run 4+ miles throughout the day to make weight. And plus I cut 5 pounds every match last year, always made weight, but during the end I just didn’t want to do it anymore. But I think having wrestling practice everyday will help me lose those extra few pounds easier.

Last year for an entire month our matches went like this:
Tuesday- Match, Thursday-Match, Saturday- Tournament(lasting about 12 hours). And our coaches decided, since we had less practice time, we were going to practice harder in between our matches. We were always tired, and cutting weight didn’t help.

That’s why I would rather safely lose the weight, so I have a lot less to cut. I do know a kid that cut 15-20 pounds everytime, placed in state in his Sophomore year, and is now the Team Captain. He wrestled 171, and he was a very strong kid in my opinion

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I had a good friend in high school who was cutting 20+ pounds, and this boy was not fat at all, who resorted to bulimia. I dont reccomend this though, just wanted to share.

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[quote]Chris82362 wrote:
I figured you might’ve been talking about the older, “weighing in the night before” idea they used to do.[/quote]

Older? Used to do? Honestly, I have no idea what the tournament set-up is like at the HS level in the States (which is where I presume you’re from), but at the Canadian Junior and Senior Nationals this year the weigh-ins were the day before the tourney. It’s been like that at all the tournaments I’ve wrestled since HS (even in HS, I think the weigh-ins for cities and provincials were the day before).

Doesn’t make any difference to you, I suppose. Seems like you’ve got a handle on what you’re doing, though. Best of luck this year!

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[quote]TheJonty wrote:
Chris82362 wrote:
I figured you might’ve been talking about the older, “weighing in the night before” idea they used to do.

Older? Used to do? Honestly, I have no idea what the tournament set-up is like at the HS level in the States (which is where I presume you’re from), but at the Canadian Junior and Senior Nationals this year the weigh-ins were the day before the tourney. It’s been like that at all the tournaments I’ve wrestled since HS (even in HS, I think the weigh-ins for cities and provincials were the day before).

Doesn’t make any difference to you, I suppose. Seems like you’ve got a handle on what you’re doing, though. Best of luck this year![/quote]

I only said “older” because when my wrestling coach talked about his college wrestling, he said “We used to weigh in the night before” so I just figured they didn’t do that anymore. My coach isn’t very literate, so that’s probably why I got the wrong idea. I actually hope it’s like that in college, because it’s a lot better of a system.

How do weekend tournaments work? Do you weigh in the night before, then wrestle all day and weigh in the night before the next day?

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This is kind of funny.
I’m a Senior in high school and I’m wrestling and I’m at 160 but wanna be in 152. I’m about 6’2" though so I don’t think it possible without losing muscle mass, but after wrestling season I’m looking to gain and get into bodybuilding. I was 152 last year and i was a skinny motherfucker.

Look fuck those old school techniques.
What you need to do is get your bodyfat down as low as possible, you don’t want to lose any muscle mass. What does that mean exactly? That means you really have to watch your NUTRITION, at your body fat you should be able to lose 10 pounds of fat and still gain some muscle and strength.

If your at your peak your gonna be at weigh-ins fully hydrated with a meal under your belt. If you look at the guys that are winning championships they don’t have an ounce of fat on them. Thats the secret, don’t go down if its gonna make you lose muscle and strenght.

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[quote]BlackFlagDk wrote:
Look fuck those old school techniques.
What you need to do is get your bodyfat down as low as possible, you don’t want to lose any muscle mass. What does that mean exactly? That means you really have to watch your NUTRITION, at your body fat you should be able to lose 10 pounds of fat and still gain some muscle and strength.

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That’s why it sucks. I’ve more or less watched what I’ve ate for over a year. I try to get in as much protein as possible, and eat things low carb and low fat. The only thing I eat with carbs now is fruits. I started doing sprints last week, and this week I’ve been doing sprints/6 mile runs.

Plus I workout. Just right now I’m not making the gains I want to so I have to change something. I can’t change my nutrition by that much because I don’t decide what 's in my house, my parents do.

So I think I need to start lifting different, and running more. Right now I basically just cycle through: bench, deadlifts, squats and leg press, whole body(every two weeks), and curls. I don’t have a set program, but I start with 10 reps, then go up in weight and down with reps. Usually ending in about 5 sets.

For running I sprint 20 seconds, rest 10, then repeat that 7 more times. After resting a couple minutes I might do it again.

If you guys think I should go on a fat loss program, just say so and I’ll search one on T-Nation…

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are you eating every 2-3 hours?
Look at Berardi’s 7 points, your choices seem to be healthy but maybe your not timing right. and I think your running to much and lifting too little. Maybe try low intensity cardio in the mornings on empty stomach or whenever possible instead of sprinting. Worry about getting your wind during the season. just concentrate on losing the fat and keeping/gaining the muscle.

Do the T-Dawg Diet 2.0 search for it and do that. That is a good idea for a basic meal plan that will help you cut that fat. Keep your workouts short and intense no matter what your type but you should have at least 2 or 3 days of rest were the only thing you might do is cardio.

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[quote]flipHKD_6 wrote:
I’ve wrestled since I was 6 and I have found the weirdest ways to make weight. One is, if you have somewhere that is indoors, and not “cold”, put on your coat and some heavy pants, and run laps. We do this in my school, put a stocking hat on, some winter clothes, and run.

Also, when you hungry (imbetween meals) have a sucker instead of eating. For some odd reason as well, my friend an I lost 2 pounds each, by getting in a bad habit of spitting. You lose water weight that is crucial for that weigh-in before a tournament. All that sounds weird but good luck![/quote]

Hey man don’t knock the spitting! lol I lost 2lbs by sucking on lifesavers and spitting into a bottle. Made weight that way!

If you are desperate you can try this (I’ve only had to do it once) but put on your sweats and jump rope in a hot shower. I was able to do this because in our locker room there was a large group shower area so I turned on all of the showers and roped rope for about 20min. You will lose a ton of water weight that way! (not the healthiest thing but you gotta do what ya gotta do)