[quote]chimera182 wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Also, if it counts, I would say most of the Japanese ones are pretty terrible. Goku, Sailormoon, Inuyasha, est.
I’m sorry, you can’t possibly mean to say Goku is terrible? He is the definition of unstoppable awesomeness.
If we’re talking about being unlikeable and useless. Matt Parkman or the Cheerleader from Heroes are tied for 1st or last depending on how you look at it.[/quote]
Hey I admit that I was a big dragonball/dragonball Z fan, but looking back, they were some pretty horrible cartoons. The “plot” is non-existant, the animation is terrible, and the actual character of goku is unbelievably stupid and childish. The fights are absurdly stupid, I can dodge/punch/block/fly faster than humanly visible, but a 30 mile an hour energy blast… that’s just impossible to get away from. The “transformations” are about as stupid and time consuming as sailor moon. Okay, you stand there and power up for 10 minutes while the guy trying to kill you just watches. Just terrible.
[quote]chimera182 wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Also, if it counts, I would say most of the Japanese ones are pretty terrible. Goku, Sailormoon, Inuyasha, est.
I’m sorry, you can’t possibly mean to say Goku is terrible? He is the definition of unstoppable awesomeness.
If we’re talking about being unlikeable and useless. Matt Parkman or the Cheerleader from Heroes are tied for 1st or last depending on how you look at it.[/quote]
So they have some place to keep their change. Oh wait, that’s what the belt is for. Wait another second, why in the hell is a man wearing a skin tight suit wearing a belt?[/quote]
I don’t know. Maybe we are opening a Pandora’s box by asking these questions, but they must be asked…
Are the ‘underpants-on-the-outside’ just an unfortunate result of a quick change gone wrong? Or is it a phenomenon exclusive to DC heroes?
Neither Captain America nor Thor seem to do this. It makes me think about the first X-men movie, when Bryan Singer said it was ridiculous to dress the movie Wolverine in “yellow spandex”.
Yeah right, because leather uniforms combined with excessive body hair are so much more masculine.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
chimera182 wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Also, if it counts, I would say most of the Japanese ones are pretty terrible. Goku, Sailormoon, Inuyasha, est.
I’m sorry, you can’t possibly mean to say Goku is terrible? He is the definition of unstoppable awesomeness.
If we’re talking about being unlikeable and useless. Matt Parkman or the Cheerleader from Heroes are tied for 1st or last depending on how you look at it.
Hey I admit that I was a big dragonball/dragonball Z fan, but looking back, they were some pretty horrible cartoons. The “plot” is non-existant, the animation is terrible, and the actual character of goku is unbelievably stupid and childish. The fights are absurdly stupid, I can dodge/punch/block/fly faster than humanly visible, but a 30 mile an hour energy blast… that’s just impossible to get away from. The “transformations” are about as stupid and time consuming as sailor moon. Okay, you stand there and power up for 10 minutes while the guy trying to kill you just watches. Just terrible.[/quote]
But apart from the crappy animation, the lack of plot, the unnecessary filler and the overall stupidity of everyone, it was a pretty bad ass cartoon.
[quote]AngryVader wrote:
chimera182 wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Also, if it counts, I would say most of the Japanese ones are pretty terrible. Goku, Sailormoon, Inuyasha, est.
I’m sorry, you can’t possibly mean to say Goku is terrible? He is the definition of unstoppable awesomeness.
If we’re talking about being unlikeable and useless. Matt Parkman or the Cheerleader from Heroes are tied for 1st or last depending on how you look at it.
I’d put Peter and Nathan in that group too.[/quote]
But at least Peter used to be able to have all sorts of power. Even if he never used it properly.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Bujo wrote:
SSC wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
My vote goes to Swamp Thing. Seriously, does anyone doubt they could beat the crap out of this goober?
Whatthafuhk?! Swamp Thing kicks MAJOR ASS.
Yeah, right. A big, slow, mossy creature made out of sea weed. Scary!
Read Alan Moore’s Swamp Thing comics, trust me Swamp Thing is no chump.
No superheroes are ever made out to be chumps, though. Eventually you gotta read through the lines.
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Superheroes are made out to be chumps all the time. When Kara Zor-El (supergirl) first apeared on Earth (the first time) she was about 17, found out she wasn’t just an orphan but that nearly her entire her entire race was dead and her planet destroyed. What did Superman do? Instead of giving her a little space in his Metropolis apartment or a corner in the Fortress of solitude, he made her go live in an orphanage.
Spider-Man (a scientist) made a deal with the devil and gave up his WIFE to save his 80-year-old Aunt from a gun shot wound.
Ant-Man nearly killed his wife while she was in “wasp mode” by spraying her with insecticide and sicking ants on her.
All characters have their ups and downs due to editorial requirements or poor authorship. The Swamp Thing I remember was one creepy, scary motherfucker.
[quote]Bujo wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
Bujo wrote:
SSC wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
My vote goes to Swamp Thing. Seriously, does anyone doubt they could beat the crap out of this goober?
Whatthafuhk?! Swamp Thing kicks MAJOR ASS.
Yeah, right. A big, slow, mossy creature made out of sea weed. Scary!
Read Alan Moore’s Swamp Thing comics, trust me Swamp Thing is no chump.
No superheroes are ever made out to be chumps, though. Eventually you gotta read through the lines.
Superheroes are made out to be chumps all the time. When Kara Zor-El (supergirl) first apeared on Earth (the first time) she was about 17, found out she wasn’t just an orphan but that nearly her entire her entire race was dead and her planet destroyed. What did Superman do? Instead of giving her a little space in his Metropolis apartment or a corner in the Fortress of solitude, he made her go live in an orphanage.
Spider-Man (a scientist) made a deal with the devil and gave up his WIFE to save his 80-year-old Aunt from a gun shot wound.
Ant-Man nearly killed his wife while she was in “wasp mode” by spraying her with insecticide and sicking ants on her.
All characters have their ups and downs due to editorial requirements or poor authorship. The Swamp Thing I remember was one creepy, scary motherfucker.
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Spider-man made a deal with Mephistopheles, not the devil. Just so’s your nerd friends don’t mock you.
[quote]Bujo wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
Bujo wrote:
SSC wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
My vote goes to Swamp Thing. Seriously, does anyone doubt they could beat the crap out of this goober?
Whatthafuhk?! Swamp Thing kicks MAJOR ASS.
Yeah, right. A big, slow, mossy creature made out of sea weed. Scary!
Read Alan Moore’s Swamp Thing comics, trust me Swamp Thing is no chump.
No superheroes are ever made out to be chumps, though. Eventually you gotta read through the lines.
Superheroes are made out to be chumps all the time. When Kara Zor-El (supergirl) first apeared on Earth (the first time) she was about 17, found out she wasn’t just an orphan but that nearly her entire her entire race was dead and her planet destroyed. What did Superman do? Instead of giving her a little space in his Metropolis apartment or a corner in the Fortress of solitude, he made her go live in an orphanage.
Spider-Man (a scientist) made a deal with the devil and gave up his WIFE to save his 80-year-old Aunt from a gun shot wound.
Ant-Man nearly killed his wife while she was in “wasp mode” by spraying her with insecticide and sicking ants on her.
All characters have their ups and downs due to editorial requirements or poor authorship. The Swamp Thing I remember was one creepy, scary motherfucker.
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Your superhero knowledge is superior to mine. Suffice to say I don’t like Swamp Thing. And until the day I’m proven wrong, I will continue to claim I’d kick his ass!