Hi rep DLs
[quote]Easy E wrote:
MikeyKBiatch wrote:
dude-dilly squat wrote:
I actually gave this advice to a couple of girlfriends: “No, baby, you should swallow. It will stop you from getting cancer of the esophagus. No, really they did a study.”
Um, this is fact… and cnn says so.
http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/Stu/pip/
This article has the potential to be printed out and framed on my wall. So I can just point to it when needed.
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I’m actually considering having it tatooed onto my back.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
jarvis wrote:
MNguns wrote:
Static stretching prior workout is bad.
hahaah I laughed my ass off
It’s not bad, but as far as I’m aware you’re better off doing dynamic stretches before working out and concentrating on static stretches after.
What is really funny is the large number of people walking around laughing because someone told them the truth. Static stretching can actually reduce strength for a subsequent lift. Maybe some people don’t consider that “bad”, but warming up with a lighter weight does more good in most cases than all of the stretching I see people doing in the corner when most of them aren’t even breaking a sweat when they lift.
Stretching should probably be saved for either after training or even during off days if you are going to focus on it at all. I personally think the entire concept is overhyped unless you are a gymnast or an acrobat.[/quote]
I completely agree… the only thing I ever static stretch before a workout is my hip flexors.
take a PWO shake before and after training.
I do take 2 ‘pwo’ shakes…
gains are the best ive ever had?
My worst advice:
“Make sure you never eat celery before you workout because it will cause your heart to grow to big and youll have heart problems”
from my fat aunt…
[quote]Deserteaglle wrote:
You shouldn’t eat carbs.
Protein shakes will make you fat.
And my FAVORITE!!!
Crunches are worthless.[/quote]
Crunches are pretty much worthless!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
jarvis wrote:
MNguns wrote:
Static stretching prior workout is bad.
hahaah I laughed my ass off
It’s not bad, but as far as I’m aware you’re better off doing dynamic stretches before working out and concentrating on static stretches after.
What is really funny is the large number of people walking around laughing because someone told them the truth. Static stretching can actually reduce strength for a subsequent lift. Maybe some people don’t consider that “bad”, but warming up with a lighter weight does more good in most cases than all of the stretching I see people doing in the corner when most of them aren’t even breaking a sweat when they lift.
Stretching should probably be saved for either after training or even during off days if you are going to focus on it at all. I personally think the entire concept is overhyped unless you are a gymnast or an acrobat.[/quote]
Have you even bothered to look at the studies the shows that “static stretching is bad”? Very poorly conducted studies.
Static stretching prior to training is important - it’s part of a process. Also I never advise “warming up” prior to performing static stretching if you actually want to change the the length tension.
When I was in high school, roughly 20 yrs ago, there was an article in Muscles and Fitness about how you shouldn’t make faces when you lift because you were diverting effort from the muscles being worked to your facial muscles.
“You’re not supposed to curl more than 40 pound dumbells. It’s bad for your arms.”
Crunches are for women, skinny-fats, and people who don’t understand what functional anatomy is. Fast rotating bicycle crunches and all the more balance and weight intensive exercises with the name crunch attached to them are all right. Lifting your scapula off the ground is just silly. I swore off normal crunches when I found myself doing them for seven minutes straight while singing.
I’m a high school assistant wrestling coach. My head coach reciently told a kid not to eat any protein because it’d make him gain weight and he wouldn’t be able to make his weight class.
Shortly later I heard him tell another kid not to eat carbs because it’ll make you weak and drain you of your energy. I guess that leaves…lard and greese? Sounds like a great nutrition plan!
[quote]SkinnySwimmer wrote:
Crunches are for women, skinny-fats, and people who don’t understand what functional anatomy is. Fast rotating bicycle crunches and all the more balance and weight intensive exercises with the name crunch attached to them are all right. Lifting your scapula off the ground is just silly. I swore off normal crunches when I found myself doing them for seven minutes straight while singing. [/quote]
I mostly do regular crunches supersetted with something like leg lifts, but that’s not the point.
The point is I want to hear WHY crunches are worthless. And no offense intended, but not just because someone who’s 150 lbs says they are.
Enlighten me with your understanding of functional anatomy and I’ll stop doing them. But don’t just tell me their worthless and expect me to believe you over others who can show me results from using crunches (along with a complete workout and diet).
Does it just have to do with where our bodies are at? I can see how just regular crunches at your level of fitness could be like running a mile everyday, it just gets easier and easier until you don’t break a sweat, but I outweigh you by 60 pounds and my BF% is more like 16-18.
But if that’s it then it has nothing to do with crunches not just not being “functional”, it’s just no longer enough of a challenge.
[quote]honkie wrote:
Professor X wrote:
jarvis wrote:
MNguns wrote:
Static stretching prior workout is bad.
hahaah I laughed my ass off
It’s not bad, but as far as I’m aware you’re better off doing dynamic stretches before working out and concentrating on static stretches after.
What is really funny is the large number of people walking around laughing because someone told them the truth. Static stretching can actually reduce strength for a subsequent lift. Maybe some people don’t consider that “bad”, but warming up with a lighter weight does more good in most cases than all of the stretching I see people doing in the corner when most of them aren’t even breaking a sweat when they lift.
Stretching should probably be saved for either after training or even during off days if you are going to focus on it at all. I personally think the entire concept is overhyped unless you are a gymnast or an acrobat.
Have you even bothered to look at the studies the shows that “static stretching is bad”? Very poorly conducted studies.
Static stretching prior to training is important - it’s part of a process. Also I never advise “warming up” prior to performing static stretching if you actually want to change the the length tension.
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Even before the following study;
[quote]Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise. 36(3):371-378, March 2004.
THACKER, STEPHEN B. 1; GILCHRIST, JULIE 2; STROUP, DONNA F. 3; KIMSEY, C. DEXTER JR. 3[/quote]
was conducted by the director of the epidemiology program office at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that reviewed 361 research studies on stretching I figured the results would match Frank Starling’s law of muscle contraction.
That law was based on cardiac muscle but showed a initial increase in contraction strength of cardiac muscle fibers at submaximal stretch and then a sharp decrease in contraction strength if the fibers were isometrically stretched beyond that point.
For more on that, this article describes that relationship well:
stating:
[quote]Sudden stretch of myocardium during an otherwise isometric contraction resulted in a concomitant increase in force that quickly decayed to a minimum and was followed by a delayed development of force, i.e., stretch activation, to levels greater than prestretch force.
At both maximal and submaximal activations, increased SL significantly reduced the initial rate of force decay following stretch; at submaximal activations (but not at maximal) the rate of delayed force development was accelerated[/quote]
The results of the above study and review of studies was
I personally am not one to live my life by studies alone. I have stated that several times. However, in this case, what I already believed based on study in other areas through school and based on my own training which has added about 95lbs of lean body mass since I first started seems to be supported.
If you personally want to continue stretching, have at it. However, what was specifically being focused on is the ATTITUDE of several trainers who really aren’t all that developed laughing at others any time they are told something that they haven’t read online yet…as if no one can teach them anything.
upright rows are great for your shoulders but theyll mess up your wrists.
Squat for bigger arms.
My upper body is big but nothing compared to my legs. They have made numerous people tell me to stop training them because they are too muscular. If only that were my upper body…
Steroids are dangerous and harmful and will destroy the body
I like this thread 
I’m old enough to remember this “advice” given by doctors, teachers, and everyone else: Steriods don’t work.
Sadly, those people saying that actually believed it.
I don’t know if this is true or not, but it had me in stitches!..LOL
From a roided-up lightbulb at my gym in Germany:
Good Mornings with 50 kg will damage your spinal discs.
Squatting is bad for your knees unless it’s on the Smith machine.
Leg pressing is better for you than squatting because you can use more weight.