There’s a video here of Bud Jeffries doing 1000 pounds with just a belt, drug free, and starting from the bottom. I think the only one who compares is Paul Andersen. Jeffries can also quarter squat 2000 pounds.
http://www.strongerman.com/
I think there’s a pic out there of Anderson with 1050 deep and of course raw. Again, a little enigmatic. Some say he got 1100 deep, others 1156 and he swore (as did Kono) that he got 1206 and 950 for 10 reps.
Anyway, not meaning to compare, but his his patellar tendons were as big as some people’s calves. Also saw a pic of Kaz with 950 raw ans it was rock bottom and close stance-all legs, and I read that he paused for about 2 seconds at the bottom.
Also wondering-didn’t some federations ban the reverse grip because it looked like Anthony Clark was going to dominate too much? I’m okay with suits-take em for what they are but the same people complaining that a reverse grip wasn’t fair seems hypocritical. Inform me if I’m wrong about rule changes.
[quote]mertdawg wrote:
I think there’s a pic out there of Anderson with 1050 deep and of course raw. Again, a little enigmatic. Some say he got 1100 deep, others 1156 and he swore (as did Kono) that he got 1206 and 950 for 10 reps.
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all exaggerated claims, as were most of andersons performances (including the supposed guiness book of records performance.)
[quote]mertdawg wrote:
Inform me if I’m wrong about rule changes.[/quote]
from memory, the origonal rule changes, same as the one for a false grip, were based around safety concerns.
[quote]wtf wrote:
Which is still damn impressive, so why put on all the gear and turn it into a circus?[/quote]
you dont turn up to the 2005 F1 GranPrix championships in your 1926 Bugatti, if you want to win.
as impressive as bud jeffrees video was to say that is a 1000 squat is lil wrong. he didn’t bring it down, wasn’t parralel from the start. not saying it isn’t impressive, just saying not a 1000 squat. its like a 1000 standing leg extention.
as far as wtf his original statement is in regaurds to anthor thread about brusing nuts and the joe average web site.
i am a raw lifter who at the moment is experimenting with gear. i feel almost like i have to to get really any wear close to my goals.
as a raw 440-450 bench presser i feel i am about 150 or so away from competing in bench america. i read about people being able to get a good 100 from their equipment with 6 wks of training and see a goal of mine in reach. but then i watch something like the olympics ands see weightlifting. and i know that a sport i feel pasionate about will never get to the olympics and that is becasue of the 20+ federation and gear that i also believe is getting out of control.
so then i wonder to go gear or not to go gear. i wish we all could lift in one drug tested single ply federation but then their would be alot less world, national and state records, recorder holders and champions. in powerliting one can pay enough through equip and 100 diffrent divisions, pure, raw, lifetime pure, master, sub master and etc., to walk away from a meet with a trophy and maybe a local, regional or state record with the finacial ability to purchase the best equipment. and thats whats wrong with the sport of powerlifting in my eyes, we have to consumed with the homer run the record bench or record what ever to fix the problems that keep compounding
Just for the record, Mike Miller said he doesn’t want powerlifting to be an olympic sport. You can find it on the article “Under the Big Iron” from a few years back.
[quote]FULLSTERKUR wrote:
as impressive as bud jeffrees video was to say that is a 1000 squat is lil wrong. he didn’t bring it down, wasn’t parralel from the start. not saying it isn’t impressive, just saying not a 1000 squat. its like a 1000 standing leg extention.
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Uhhhh…not quite. It’s not even close to the same thing. They both work the quads, it’s true, but the movement is completely different and doing a squat from parallel works the glutes and hamstrings along with the quads.
[quote]FULLSTERKUR wrote:
as impressive as bud jeffrees video was to say that is a 1000 squat is lil wrong. he didn’t bring it down, wasn’t parralel from the start. not saying it isn’t impressive, just saying not a 1000 squat. its like a 1000 standing leg extention.
as far as wtf his original statement is in regaurds to anthor thread about brusing nuts and the joe average web site.
i am a raw lifter who at the moment is experimenting with gear. i feel almost like i have to to get really any wear close to my goals.
as a raw 440-450 bench presser i feel i am about 150 or so away from competing in bench america. i read about people being able to get a good 100 from their equipment with 6 wks of training and see a goal of mine in reach. but then i watch something like the olympics ands see weightlifting. and i know that a sport i feel pasionate about will never get to the olympics and that is becasue of the 20+ federation and gear that i also believe is getting out of control.
so then i wonder to go gear or not to go gear. i wish we all could lift in one drug tested single ply federation but then their would be alot less world, national and state records, recorder holders and champions. in powerliting one can pay enough through equip and 100 diffrent divisions, pure, raw, lifetime pure, master, sub master and etc., to walk away from a meet with a trophy and maybe a local, regional or state record with the finacial ability to purchase the best equipment. and thats whats wrong with the sport of powerlifting in my eyes, we have to consumed with the homer run the record bench or record what ever to fix the problems that keep compounding[/quote]
I think this is a big problem with powerlifting these days. As a powerlifting outsider, a lot of the records are meaningless to me. Because there are so many feds and so many divisions, when someone tells me he’s a “state record holder” or even “national record holder” I find it difficult to be impressed. As an impartial outsider, the only federation that appears legit to me is the IPF, and its records are the only ones I am impressed by.
[quote]mertdawg wrote:
Just for the record, Mike Miller said he doesn’t want powerlifting to be an olympic sport. You can find it on the article “Under the Big Iron” from a few years back.[/quote]
Why not?
There is no point to it being an olympic sport.
For many like me, the olympics have lost there luster over the years. It is not amature sport anymore, it’s another professional league.
[quote]mertdawg wrote:
Also wondering-didn’t some federations ban the reverse grip because it looked like Anthony Clark was going to dominate too much? I’m okay with suits-take em for what they are but the same people complaining that a reverse grip wasn’t fair seems hypocritical. Inform me if I’m wrong about rule changes.[/quote]
From my understanding, the reverse grip was banned for safety reasons, not an advantage. The bar can fall out easier from your grip that way.
well not to bust mike millers balls (believe me, that would be the last thing i would do)
but if powerlifting went to an olympic sport the IOC would make it a one ply gear sport, with sanctions on belts, briefs, judging, wraps, suit monidfications (NONE) and drug testing.
with all do respect to mike miller (and i do respect him and what he has done to the sport) milller couldn’t lift in this arena of powerlifting he is a noted steroid user who is into lifting the most weight as possible at any cost, modification or edge he can grasp. more power to him but if we wnt to olympics with powerlifting our super heavy represenative wouldn’t be slatimer (mostly bench only), gene jr (bench mostly and with all the modification and drug testing) miller (with the rules reguarding plys and equip) it would probably be brian siders. or maybe gary frank.
not pointing fingers at anyone but why would mike miller not want to protext his investment. if powerlifting went to one federation with olympic imposed sanctions some of the guys who don’t want the o-games would become obsolete in a sport they have trained for years in. dosen’t make sense for them to support it.
but just becasue mike miller dosen’t support it dosen’t mean it wouldn’t make powerlifting better as a whole
Mike Miller this…Mike Miller that…If you want Mike Miller’s opinion on your thoughts, just call the guy. Look up Nazareth Barbell on the net and get the number. Tell him what you think and get the word.
It’s sad to read all this boo-hooing about something so trivial as gear in powerlifting. It’s akin to crying because NASCAR races super-modified vehicle.
“But it’s supposed to be stock car racing. Wha! Wha! They’re as far from stock as you can get. Boo Hoo!”
It’s all bullshit. You don’t like it, don’t watch.
If WTF thinks it’s such a “circus”, then why the hell do you care enough to watch the videos and give your 2 cents for this thread? Hell, I don’t like mushrooms, but instead of sitting around crying about their use in cooking, I don’t eat them. Problem solved.
Bottom line; You want to lift raw, NASA had meets everywhere. You want single ply, IPF/USAPL has meets everywhere. You want unlimited equipment, WPO/APO/IPA/etc. has meets everyhwere. Leave it alone.
[quote]FULLSTERKUR wrote:
but if powerlifting went to an olympic sport the IOC would make it a one ply gear sport, with sanctions on belts, briefs, judging, wraps, suit monidfications (NONE) and drug testing.
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I get more out of a single ply Rage X then a double denim, so why only single ply?
Any that is hilarious about the drug testing!! Anybody who thinks Olympic athletes aren’t juiced to the gills is very naive.
then sweety, i think it’s time for you to strap on some gear and enter a meet. what you don’t realize is, with the federations as numerous as they are it gives more opportunity for people to get involved and compete. since you are an outsider so to speak, you don’t know how much powerlifting has grown and how many more people have begun to compete and train to lift heavy stuff. no one cares about records, there’s always gonna be someone stronger come along and knock a record off. what defines a true powerlifter is not what federation he or she lifts in or what rules and equipment he or she uses, it’s about lifting heavier and heavier things and being in awe of others and encourage them when they lift heavier and heavier things. period. be as unimpressed as you wanna be, chances are the “state record holder” in some “other” federation isn’t impressed with himself and is working extremely hard to get stronger. this goes for all you other haters too(single ply, double ply, whatever).
sounds like a few gear heads are starting to get a little defensive. maybe i have offended a few state sub master master novice life time pure IPABCDEFG record holder and champion.
if i have i am sorry. i thought this was a board of thought and free flowing ideas, not a place to defend you insecurities.
you have all convinced me. i will order my four ply denim shirt called “the fork lift” and with my decent raw bench i to will be the next state sub master master novice life time pure IPABCDEFG record holder and champion.
shane
p.s. just kidding guys, before you get your inzer blast panties in a wad i was just stating my opinuon in other posts and having a little fun in this one to lighten the mood. not everything has to be so serious.
[quote]FULLSTERKUR wrote:
sounds like a few gear heads are starting to get a little defensive. maybe i have offended a few state sub master master novice life time pure IPABCDEFG record holder and champion.
if i have i am sorry. i thought this was a board of thought and free flowing ideas, not a place to defend you insecurities.
you have all convinced me. i will order my four ply denim shirt called “the fork lift” and with my decent raw bench i to will be the next state sub master master novice life time pure IPABCDEFG record holder and champion.
shane
p.s. just kidding guys, before you get your inzer blast panties in a wad i was just stating my opinuon in other posts and having a little fun in this one to lighten the mood. not everything has to be so serious.[/quote]
…Hey ahole! What the fu! Why you not go ****ing ram a big ****ing 7 foot bar up ass.
…Oh, he’s joking.
Word from your favorite 3 PR day guy.
[quote]boondoc holiday wrote:
I think this is a big problem with powerlifting these days. As a powerlifting outsider, a lot of the records are meaningless to me. Because there are so many feds and so many divisions, when someone tells me he’s a “state record holder” or even “national record holder” I find it difficult to be impressed. As an impartial outsider, the only federation that appears legit to me is the IPF, and its records are the only ones I am impressed by.
then sweety, i think it’s time for you to strap on some gear and enter a meet. what you don’t realize is, with the federations as numerous as they are it gives more opportunity for people to get involved and compete. since you are an outsider so to speak, you don’t know how much powerlifting has grown and how many more people have begun to compete and train to lift heavy stuff. no one cares about records, there’s always gonna be someone stronger come along and knock a record off. what defines a true powerlifter is not what federation he or she lifts in or what rules and equipment he or she uses, it’s about lifting heavier and heavier things and being in awe of others and encourage them when they lift heavier and heavier things. period. be as unimpressed as you wanna be, chances are the “state record holder” in some “other” federation isn’t impressed with himself and is working extremely hard to get stronger. this goes for all you other haters too(single ply, double ply, whatever).
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