Workout Plan Feedback

Please critique my workout plan and provide any necessary feedback.

Monday - Chest:

  • Flat barbell bench- 3 sets 5-7 reps
  • Incline dumbbell bench- 2 sets 5-7 reps
  • Peck deck- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • 15 min cardio

Tuesday - Back:

  • Chest supported T bar row (upper grip) 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • Chest supported T bar row (lower grip) 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • Single arm cable row- 2 sets 5-8 reps (take rest between arms)
  • Lat pull-down- 1 set 5-8 reps

Wednesday - Legs:

  • Leg press- 2 sets 6-8 reps
  • Leg Extensions- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • RDL’s- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • Hamstring Curls- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • Adductor Machine- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • Calf Raise Machine- 2 sets of 6-8 reps

Thursday - Shoulders

  • Machine shoulder press- 2 sets 5-7 reps
  • Dumbbell lateral raises- 2 sets 6-8 reps
  • Cable lateral raises - 1 set 6-8 reps
  • Single arm rear delt flies- 2 sets 6-8 reps

Friday - Arms

  • JM Press- 2 sets 6-8 reps
  • Single arm extension- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • Seated dips - 1 set 5-8 reps
  • Bicep curls- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • Hammer curls- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • Cable curls- 1 set 6-8 reps
  • 15min cardio

What goal is this intended to achieve?

Hypertrophy

Is there a reason your leg day is all machines? And your back day?

You’ll be hitting your triceps back to back by doing the machine shoulder press on Thursday and then tricep work on Friday.

I feel that those machines offer a great amount of stabilization to target the specific muscles necessary. Also, it is also way easier to set-up. Even though you have a great point of the triceps being recruited back to back, I wouldn’t know where else to put arm day as I can only workout Monday through Friday.

How experienced are you? I don’t want to be rude but there’s a lot of things I’d change about this.

If you’re just going on “I need to hit this, this, and this” with no real knowledge of program building then I’d recommend following a ready-made program that thousands have already had success with that answers all your questions for you.

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I am not that experienced, just a beginner. I’ve done a fair bit of research on program building, but I’d love to hear your feedback on improvements to the workout plan.

It sucks. I would not be doing low reps for many of those exercises. No point in trying to make it better.

Pick a program or routine that is proven.

DC, 531, 3dmj, RP strength, etc. there are many options.

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I made some adjustments. Every single one of these exercises is recommended by Paul Carter and other knowledgable individuals as optimal. The optimal rep range according to Paul Carter is 5-8 reps.

  • Do everything until death failure and rest 3-5 mins in between sets
  • 3-4 second eccentric
  • Max partials

Monday - Chest:

  • Flat barbell bench- 3 sets 5-7 reps
  • Incline dumbbell bench- 2 sets 5-7 reps
  • Peck deck- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • 15 min cardio

Tuesday - Back:

  • Chest supported T bar row (upper grip) 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • Single arm cable row- 2 sets 5-8 reps (take rest between arms)
  • Lat pull-down- 2 set 5-8 reps

Wednesday - Legs:

  • Leg press- 2 sets 6-8 reps
  • Leg Extensions- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • RDL’s- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • Hamstring Curls- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • Adductor Machine- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • Calf Raise Machine- 2 sets of 6-8 reps

Thursday - Shoulders

  • Machine shoulder press- 2 sets 5-7 reps
  • Dumbbell lateral raises- 2 sets 6-8 reps
  • Cable lateral raises - 1 set 6-8 reps
  • Single arm rear delt flies- 2 sets 6-8 reps

Friday - Arms

  • Bicep curls- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • Preacher curls- 1 set 6-8 reps
  • Hammer curls- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • Single arm extension- 2 sets 5-8 reps
  • JM Press- 2 sets 6-8 rep
  • Seated dips - 1 set 5-8 reps
  • 15 min cardio

A list of movements does not a program make.

And I strongly recommend that you abandon the idea of:

right now.

Just throw it out and don’t look back.

The only thing that’s “optimal” is hard work—and lots of it—day in, day out, for a long, long time.

My dude, you’re in an enviable position exactly because you’re:

You’re better off getting it right from the start, so I’ll second this:

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You saying “5-8 is the optimal rep range” because that’s what Paul Carter said shows me you have no idea of the nuance of these things. Paul Carter would never use that on every set, for every exercise, and will very likely change things up occasionally. Different exercises lend themselves better to different rep schemes. How much connection, and how good is your form going to be with sets of 6-8 on lateral raises? Eventually, you’re just gonna end up injured.

Not just that but
Do everything until death failure

As a beginner? No. No. No. This is NOT a good path for a beginner. You don’t need to train that way, and your form isn’t good enough to offset the chance of injury. MAXIMUM SAFE REPS will take you as far as you’d ever want to go in your first few years.

Optimal doesn’t exist.

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Sounds like you’re a Paul Carter fan. I believe he has programs on here. Why not just do one?

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“If you want to grow, and I mean really grow, then you need to grok some tried and true principles about muscle growth and select a few movements you intend on pounding into the dirt for about the next decade. There’s no magical routine out there that’s going to suddenly transform you into a beast.”
From :

Maybe 8-12 is also a rep range that PC likes :man_shrugging:t2:

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I vary my rep range from 5-8, 6-8, 5-7 depending on the exercise. I am listening to him about that rep range being optimal because his explanation makes sense. If you’re training to maximum failure, extra reps past that rep range can just cause unnecessary fatigue, which will limit your potential in upcoming exercises. I’ve worked on my form across all of those exercises by doing a lot of research and then practicing the form with light weights until it is good. I’d consider myself a beginner since I have less than three years of experience, but I still do have experience with form. Obviously, there is always room for improvement, but I believe I have pretty good form across all of those listed exercises.

I would love to do one of his 5-day hypertrophy programs, but I don’t want to pay any amount.

I figured those exercises listed above work best for me. Many people say those are great exercises for hypertrophy, and I have been seeing and feeling the results. As you’ve said, I will stick with those movements and progressively overload with them. I progressively overload within the 5-8, 6-8, or 5-7 rep range. Once I reach the max number on the rep range, I increase the weight for something I can do on the lower end of the rep range. I appreciate your advice.

Optimal is important. If I could do an exercise that is better with hypertrophy for the same amount of sets and reps than another exercise, then why not do the better exercise. Those exercises mentioned above are a list of movements that make sense all together. Also, I do work hard in the gym, and I believe that is apart of being optimal as you’ve said. Going to maximum failure on every set and finishing it off with partials until you cannot do anymore. Right amount of volume, optimal exercises, and so on. Optimal is important!

He’s got a handful of complete programs, for free, here.
Is there a particular reason you want to train 5 days per week? I’ve seen him recommend 3 in most of his writings. 4 is my own personal preference, which isn’t what you’re asking for, but I’m just pointing out that 5 is on the higher end for most of us.

@SvenG’s point about optimal is not saying “don’t try to find things that work,” but we’ve all seen folks get absolutely paralyzed trying to put perfect ahead of doing. The magic is in the consistency far and above anything else, and chasing optimal often leads us to miss sessions or overhaul variables too much.

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If you are going to follow this principle good luck with doing another set after 3 mins.

Lets ask @T3hPwnisher, as someone who knows what training to failure really looks like. Could you do this on everything and come back after 3 mins ??

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You say this:

And then the first two exercises you list are these:

A lot of what Paul says resonates with me too, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen him suggest these movements as optimal for chest hypertrophy. Instead, he usually suggests a converging chest press.

I’m with other – if you like his ideas, pick a program he wrote and run it.

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