My major question, and maybe this has already been answered, however, I can’t seem to find it, is if when working out to loss fat (I happen to be doing Thibs’s War Room Fat Loss routine), is it ideal to be loading up on say 80 carbs pre workout and then say 40 post? I am currently taking Surge post workout and some whey and oats pre, granted, this isn’t anything close to Thibs’s peri-workout meal, however, it is what I have to work with.
If I am trying to lose fat, while still retaining muscle, would it be counter productive consuming carbs pre and post workout, or would the assumption that only consuming carbs at this moment, the carbs would be properly used for the workout be correct?
[quote]Core627 wrote:
My major question, and maybe this has already been answered, however, I can’t seem to find it, is if when working out to loss fat (I happen to be doing Thibs’s War Room Fat Loss routine), is it ideal to be loading up on say 80 carbs pre workout and then say 40 post? I am currently taking Surge post workout and some whey and oats pre, granted, this isn’t anything close to Thibs’s peri-workout meal, however, it is what I have to work with.
If I am trying to lose fat, while still retaining muscle, would it be counter productive consuming carbs pre and post workout, or would the assumption that only consuming carbs at this moment, the carbs would be properly used for the workout be correct?
Thanks in advance for the answers.[/quote]
As long as those carbs (during peri-workout) fit into your daily macros and your overall calories aren’t in a surplus, you should be fine. You’ll probably be fine putting those carbs anywhere in the day (breakfast, lunch, peri-workout, dinner, pre-bed ect…) and its really your overall macros/calories that will make or break your diet.
I was fat and didn’t have noticable fat-loss success until I completely cut out all carbs, including PWO ones.
There was a lot else going on at the time, but I believe cutting out PWO carbs greatly assists fat loss.
You probably run the risk of muscle wasting, moreso than had you carbs, but if you’re lifting heavy and taking in a ton of protein, you’ll probably be alright. I was.
When you’re trying to lose fat you may have to put muscle building on the second burner. Cutting carbs down to 50g’s or less will definitely help fat loss as long as plenty of healthy fats take their place. Your cals can’t drop too much too quick or you will go into survival mode and fat burned will be minimal.
I like using TUT (time under tension training) when I low carb to not only use more fat but to switch it up in general. This works wonders for me, but everybody is different. Carb cycling is another good approach. It’s a better long term plan.
I agree with Otep…and unfortunately when losing fat, depending on how much, you dont lift to lose anyway…you are maintaining the muscle that you already have(like you said)…
I’m currently using Thib’s peri-workout protocol (2 scoops SWF -30 & 2 scoops SR -15) on a fatloss plan and it’s working great. Waist is down 1.75" in three and a half weeks. I have Metabolic Drive about and hour after my wo (out of whey) and keep it low carb the rest of the day and on off days.
Once I stall, I plan to throttle back on this to one scoop apiece, then to none. Also have a bottle of HOT-ROX standing by. I know I’ll stall at some point, but having a plan for it is comforting.
I would suggest trying it for a couple of weeks while tracking weight & waist measurements to see if it’s working. If not, adjust.
Non training/cardio days: trying to get 2000-2200 cals a day
10-30 carbs
60-75 fats
250-300 protein
Training days: Trying to get 2200 cals in a day
50-80 carbs (consumed 80% before workout, 20% after)
250-275 protein
40-50 fats
My macros may be off by +/- 2%, but that is a rough summary of my macros right now. The cals are down from where I was before which was around 2700-3000 cals. Let me know if you would change anything. Also, I am currently using Thib’s War Room Fat Loss routine with a diet looking something like the above.
Also,
Fats - the important oils, natural almond butter, avocados, almonds and walnuts
proteins - lean animal flesh and meta drive
carbs - veggies, surge, oats, kashi cereal
Any advice is appreciated. I am already thinking that I may need to up the calories some and then reduce them over time each week.
I think that this looks pretty good and effective. Your carbs are kept extremely low and your fat is moderate on workout days. I think that what you’re doing (keeping the carbs high around the workout) will allow you to retain and maybe even gain some muscle while simultaneously losing fat since your diet is dialed in. Good luck bro.
[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
I think that this looks pretty good and effective. Your carbs are kept extremely low and your fat is moderate on workout days. I think that what you’re doing (keeping the carbs high around the workout) will allow you to retain and maybe even gain some muscle while simultaneously losing fat since your diet is dialed in. Good luck bro. [/quote]
