[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
Also, this thread is about lawyers, not debating. [/quote]
Everyone’s just trying to act like a lawyer 
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
Also, this thread is about lawyers, not debating. [/quote]
Everyone’s just trying to act like a lawyer ;)[/quote]
No there not everyone is just trying to act like an asshole.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
Also, this thread is about lawyers, not debating. [/quote]
Everyone’s just trying to act like a lawyer ;)[/quote]
No there not everyone is just trying to act like an asshole.[/quote]
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this is probably the wrong place for an Ozzy pic, huh?
my bad.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
trying to break a 1RM PR on the squat.
Setting a goal of breaking that second type of PR as a goal for EVERY training session is just downright retarded.
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No bodybuilder or powerlifter does this.
Youre creating nonsensical hypotheticals.
But after seeing some of the stuff on your website I cant say that surprises me. [/quote]
I’m sure a lot of powerlifter plan their PR attempts ahead of times. Unless you are on roid and or is following Westside programs.
I can think of a dozen powerlifting based programs that go by percentages where the lifter doesn’t go in and try to max out EVERY TIME. Seriously who can, and does do that beside newbs?
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WHO THE HELL SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ATTEMPTING A 1RM PR EVERY WORKOUT? Certainly not I.
I can see that youre not understand what Im saying. Thatll be all from me here. [/quote]
What are your lifting stats? What are the numbers for some of your lifts at the given bodyweight?
I want to see the result from someone who claims that the best way to train is to try to set PRs every workout.[/quote]
You want to see results? Look at my damn hub.
I train like a bodybuilder. And I have pictures posted. I havent attempted a 1rm in well over 5 years, since I know that’s what youre getting at. I dont train for strength, at all. And Im not looking to get much bigger so increases in raw numbers are of little concern to me.
Off the top of my head within the past 3 months Ive completed 65lb dumbell curls for 10 reps while seated on a high incline bench. 295x7 or 8 on incline barbell bench press. at 185lbs. And no you arent getting videos.
Im afraid to even ask this, but if you go to the gym without the goal of improving somehow, what is your goal? To just fuck around doing the same thing you did last time? Obviously it’s impossible to COMPLETE a PR every time but it absolutely should be the goal.
You appear to still be wet behind the ears, automatically thinking that “PR” means “add weight”. It doesnt, necessarily. Nor does “PR” have anything to do with a 1 rep max, except when you say it does, and I never did.
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I already said it very clearly in my previous posts that “a PR” might mean anything from shorter time between rests, quicker reps, MORE reps, or the ultimate 1RM, and some people even distinguish competition 1RM and training 1RM. They are ALL PRs. I got this from the get go. I got this 4 years ago when I started training.
Ok so let me get this:
if your goal is NOT strength, and NOT much size, but you are still trying to improve and set PRs every work out, then tell me how that makes sense without contradiction.
It looks like you are on a maintenance mode, as I am too at this point, and yes you can fuck around a little bit and still maintain previous strength and size levels easily.
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How do I set PRs?
By swapping out an exercise and progressing on it.
By completeing the same amount of work Ive previously done in a shorter amount of time.
By completing more work, overall, without sacrificing the weight used.
If I leave the gym having done exactly what I did the week before, that workout is deemed a failure.
must I continue? do you understand what people are saying to you?
And believe me, nothing youve said has been ‘very clear’. Considering the fact that you are changing your claims in every other post, what youre saying is the opposite of clear. [/quote]
Those are good PRs and good goals to set before every work out session.
But you said your goal was to not gain much size, and also not to increase strength…but if you did all that, aren’t you gonna automatically improve both, if not one and not the other?
I’m just wondering…because like I said I’m maintaining right now, and I don’t try to set PRs nor have that mindset every work out.
But I know what it’s like to not set PRs, not matter how small they are.
i used to be unable to sleep because I would be depressed for days over a training session and go all out on the next one to prove to myself that I’m not a failure So trust me, I know what you are talking about . [/quote]
You have issues [/quote]
Thanks, I already realized this, Mr. Hard-ass who goes all out during every training session for PRs because he forgets to deload, but who in fact isn’t trying to gain muscles OR strength!
You still haven’t explain to me how that works.
and AWESOME job on the curls and bench, 295 for reps is damn good at any weight. What about squats and deads?
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
and AWESOME job on the curls and bench, 295 for reps is damn good at any weight. What about squats and deads?
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Being 185lbs is not impressive at all. He is a known steroid user and started fairly young if I remember.
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
and AWESOME job on the curls and bench, 295 for reps is damn good at any weight. What about squats and deads?
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Being 185lbs is not impressive at all. He is a known steroid user and started fairly young if I remember.[/quote]
u mad?
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
trying to break a 1RM PR on the squat.
Setting a goal of breaking that second type of PR as a goal for EVERY training session is just downright retarded.
[/quote]
No bodybuilder or powerlifter does this.
Youre creating nonsensical hypotheticals.
But after seeing some of the stuff on your website I cant say that surprises me. [/quote]
I’m sure a lot of powerlifter plan their PR attempts ahead of times. Unless you are on roid and or is following Westside programs.
I can think of a dozen powerlifting based programs that go by percentages where the lifter doesn’t go in and try to max out EVERY TIME. Seriously who can, and does do that beside newbs?
[/quote]
WHO THE HELL SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ATTEMPTING A 1RM PR EVERY WORKOUT? Certainly not I.
I can see that youre not understand what Im saying. Thatll be all from me here. [/quote]
What are your lifting stats? What are the numbers for some of your lifts at the given bodyweight?
I want to see the result from someone who claims that the best way to train is to try to set PRs every workout.[/quote]
You want to see results? Look at my damn hub.
I train like a bodybuilder. And I have pictures posted. I havent attempted a 1rm in well over 5 years, since I know that’s what youre getting at. I dont train for strength, at all. And Im not looking to get much bigger so increases in raw numbers are of little concern to me.
Off the top of my head within the past 3 months Ive completed 65lb dumbell curls for 10 reps while seated on a high incline bench. 295x7 or 8 on incline barbell bench press. at 185lbs. And no you arent getting videos.
Im afraid to even ask this, but if you go to the gym without the goal of improving somehow, what is your goal? To just fuck around doing the same thing you did last time? Obviously it’s impossible to COMPLETE a PR every time but it absolutely should be the goal.
You appear to still be wet behind the ears, automatically thinking that “PR” means “add weight”. It doesnt, necessarily. Nor does “PR” have anything to do with a 1 rep max, except when you say it does, and I never did.
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I already said it very clearly in my previous posts that “a PR” might mean anything from shorter time between rests, quicker reps, MORE reps, or the ultimate 1RM, and some people even distinguish competition 1RM and training 1RM. They are ALL PRs. I got this from the get go. I got this 4 years ago when I started training.
Ok so let me get this:
if your goal is NOT strength, and NOT much size, but you are still trying to improve and set PRs every work out, then tell me how that makes sense without contradiction.
It looks like you are on a maintenance mode, as I am too at this point, and yes you can fuck around a little bit and still maintain previous strength and size levels easily.
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How do I set PRs?
By swapping out an exercise and progressing on it.
By completeing the same amount of work Ive previously done in a shorter amount of time.
By completing more work, overall, without sacrificing the weight used.
If I leave the gym having done exactly what I did the week before, that workout is deemed a failure.
must I continue? do you understand what people are saying to you?
And believe me, nothing youve said has been ‘very clear’. Considering the fact that you are changing your claims in every other post, what youre saying is the opposite of clear. [/quote]
Those are good PRs and good goals to set before every work out session.
But you said your goal was to not gain much size, and also not to increase strength…but if you did all that, aren’t you gonna automatically improve both, if not one and not the other?
I’m just wondering…because like I said I’m maintaining right now, and I don’t try to set PRs nor have that mindset every work out.
But I know what it’s like to not set PRs, not matter how small they are.
i used to be unable to sleep because I would be depressed for days over a training session and go all out on the next one to prove to myself that I’m not a failure So trust me, I know what you are talking about . [/quote]
You have issues [/quote]
Thanks, I already realized this, Mr. Hard-ass who goes all out during every training session for PRs because he forgets to deload, but who in fact isn’t trying to gain muscles OR strength!
You still haven’t explain to me how that works.
and AWESOME job on the curls and bench, 295 for reps is damn good at any weight. What about squats and deads?
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I havent deadlifted in about 5 years. I think I got 455 for 5 at somewhere between 160 and 170 pounds. And havent rack pulled in over 3 years but topped out at 555 for 6 at 180 pounds or so (from below the knee). But as I said, strength has never been a priority. Just a necessary aspect of growing.
Just started squatting again recently. My squat isnt impressive. I got 355 for 12 or so a week ago, wide stance, to just below parallel. I assume Ill have it over 400 for reps by the spring.
lol @ forgetting to deload. I take days off when I need to, not because the caledar says so. Youre too close minded to understand anything Im saying. You see everything as black and white.
The fact that you still cant grasp the notion of a PR being something other than adding more raw weight to the bar is ridiculous. Me not trying to get much bigger anymore is accomplished by my diet and really doesnt have a lot to do with what I do in the gym, as I can do the same exact routine and get bigger or smaller based solely on how I eat.
If I add muscle and lower my bodyfat my weight will remain somewhat constant, yet I’d have likely gotten stronger, but my goal has never been to get stronger just for the sake of it. Think outside of the box for two seconds and realize that there’s more options than ‘big/small’, ‘strong/weak’, ‘fast/slow’.
YOU said that Im not trying to gain MUSCLE. I never said that. I said that Im not looking to get much bigger. Ill gladly take more muscle at the expense of bodyfat.
I dont understand what your problem is. If you dont like my training philosophy dont follow it. I simply called you out for saying that studying a lot will hinder progress in the gym. Thats bullshit. And even if it’s not complete and utter bullshit, it’s fucking pointless to even think about as you cant change it. Priorities are priorities and you make the best of your situation.
Some thoughts to the original thread…
1L is tough, but the gym was, for me, second only to school and I never missed a workout and found it a great source of stress relief. 2L and 3L are a joke ONCE you’ve lined up your summer associate position for after 2L. I made the most progress ever and was as strong as I ever was these two years.
A few months before I started at a private firm, I took dropped as much fat and got as lean as possible with the rationale being that firm-life just wouldn’t afford me that kind of time to spend in the gym anymore. I began in 2006 when firms were insanely busy, and I was right. With the recession, I’ve been able to get back into pretty good shape, but when things pick up there’s just nothing you can do. You can’t get up earlier to hit the gym when you go to bed at 3am, wake up at 7am and use every spare moment to either shit, shower or eat. Of course, not every day is like that, but there WILL be days/weeks/months like that, and your workouts will suffer.
Just REALLY be sure you want to be a lawyer.