Working Out While at Law School

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:
trying to break a 1RM PR on the squat.

Setting a goal of breaking that second type of PR as a goal for EVERY training session is just downright retarded.

[/quote]

No bodybuilder or powerlifter does this.

Youre creating nonsensical hypotheticals.

But after seeing some of the stuff on your website I cant say that surprises me. [/quote]

I’m sure a lot of powerlifter plan their PR attempts ahead of times. Unless you are on roid and or is following Westside programs.

I can think of a dozen powerlifting based programs that go by percentages where the lifter doesn’t go in and try to max out EVERY TIME. Seriously who can, and does do that beside newbs?

[/quote]

WHO THE HELL SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ATTEMPTING A 1RM PR EVERY WORKOUT? Certainly not I.

I can see that youre not understand what Im saying. Thatll be all from me here. [/quote]

What are your lifting stats? What are the numbers for some of your lifts at the given bodyweight?

I want to see the result from someone who claims that the best way to train is to try to set PRs every workout, 1RM or not.

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:
trying to break a 1RM PR on the squat.

Setting a goal of breaking that second type of PR as a goal for EVERY training session is just downright retarded.

[/quote]

No bodybuilder or powerlifter does this.

Youre creating nonsensical hypotheticals.

But after seeing some of the stuff on your website I cant say that surprises me. [/quote]

I’m sure a lot of powerlifter plan their PR attempts ahead of times. Unless you are on roid and or is following Westside programs.

I can think of a dozen powerlifting based programs that go by percentages where the lifter doesn’t go in and try to max out EVERY TIME. Seriously who can, and does do that beside newbs?

[/quote]

WHO THE HELL SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ATTEMPTING A 1RM PR EVERY WORKOUT? Certainly not I.

I can see that youre not understand what Im saying. Thatll be all from me here. [/quote]

What are your lifting stats? What are the numbers for some of your lifts at the given bodyweight?

I want to see the result from someone who claims that the best way to train is to try to set PRs every workout, 1RM or not.[/quote]

Dude, how dense are you? A PR is improvement, it should be your goal to improve EVERY TIME YOU TRAIN. It may be a massive PR, it may be a small Pr, but its a PR.

FTR - 700lb squat, 455lb bench, 655lb deadlift – single ply, all time PRs. I train to improve every session, whether its by banging out a few extra reps, or by increasing the weight, or both.

Currently a Second Year Law student.

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:
trying to break a 1RM PR on the squat.

Setting a goal of breaking that second type of PR as a goal for EVERY training session is just downright retarded.

[/quote]

No bodybuilder or powerlifter does this.

Youre creating nonsensical hypotheticals.

But after seeing some of the stuff on your website I cant say that surprises me. [/quote]

I’m sure a lot of powerlifter plan their PR attempts ahead of times. Unless you are on roid and or is following Westside programs.

I can think of a dozen powerlifting based programs that go by percentages where the lifter doesn’t go in and try to max out EVERY TIME. Seriously who can, and does do that beside newbs?

[/quote]

WHO THE HELL SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ATTEMPTING A 1RM PR EVERY WORKOUT? Certainly not I.

I can see that youre not understand what Im saying. Thatll be all from me here. [/quote]

What are your lifting stats? What are the numbers for some of your lifts at the given bodyweight?

I want to see the result from someone who claims that the best way to train is to try to set PRs every workout.[/quote]

You want to see results? Look at my damn hub.

I train like a bodybuilder. And I have pictures posted. I havent attempted a 1rm in well over 5 years, since I know that’s what youre getting at. I dont train for strength, at all. And Im not looking to get much bigger so increases in raw numbers are of little concern to me.

Off the top of my head within the past 3 months Ive completed 65lb dumbell curls for 10 reps while seated on a high incline bench. 295x7 or 8 on incline barbell bench press. at 185lbs. And no you arent getting videos.

Im afraid to even ask this, but if you go to the gym without the goal of improving somehow, what is your goal? To just fuck around doing the same thing you did last time? Obviously it’s impossible to COMPLETE a PR every time but it absolutely should be the goal.

You appear to still be wet behind the ears, automatically thinking that “PR” means “add weight”. It doesnt, necessarily. Nor does “PR” have anything to do with a 1 rep max, except when you say it does, and I never did.

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:
trying to break a 1RM PR on the squat.

Setting a goal of breaking that second type of PR as a goal for EVERY training session is just downright retarded.

[/quote]

No bodybuilder or powerlifter does this.

Youre creating nonsensical hypotheticals.

But after seeing some of the stuff on your website I cant say that surprises me. [/quote]

I’m sure a lot of powerlifter plan their PR attempts ahead of times. Unless you are on roid and or is following Westside programs.

I can think of a dozen powerlifting based programs that go by percentages where the lifter doesn’t go in and try to max out EVERY TIME. Seriously who can, and does do that beside newbs?

[/quote]

WHO THE HELL SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ATTEMPTING A 1RM PR EVERY WORKOUT? Certainly not I.

I can see that youre not understand what Im saying. Thatll be all from me here. [/quote]

What are your lifting stats? What are the numbers for some of your lifts at the given bodyweight?

I want to see the result from someone who claims that the best way to train is to try to set PRs every workout, 1RM or not.[/quote]

Dude, how dense are you? A PR is improvement, it should be your goal to improve EVERY TIME YOU TRAIN. It may be a massive PR, it may be a small Pr, but its a PR.

FTR - 700lb squat, 455lb bench, 655lb deadlift – single ply, all time PRs. I train to improve every session, whether its by banging out a few extra reps, or by increasing the weight, or both.

Currently a Second Year Law student.[/quote]

That was how I used to train 90 percent of the time when I went on Westside and Joe Defranco, EC programs, whether I get it or not I had that mindset. the other 10 percent of the time I deloaded, and went into the training session with no intention of breaking any sorts of PRs.

But then I discovered other programs that were progressive overload based, that works best when you go up slowly, or 5x5s where you go up and down on a weekly basis.

Both ways worked. You don’t have to always break PRs to see gains.

Having the attitude to break shit every time is awesome, I did that , and it worked. I never denied this.

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:
trying to break a 1RM PR on the squat.

Setting a goal of breaking that second type of PR as a goal for EVERY training session is just downright retarded.

[/quote]

No bodybuilder or powerlifter does this.

Youre creating nonsensical hypotheticals.

But after seeing some of the stuff on your website I cant say that surprises me. [/quote]

I’m sure a lot of powerlifter plan their PR attempts ahead of times. Unless you are on roid and or is following Westside programs.

I can think of a dozen powerlifting based programs that go by percentages where the lifter doesn’t go in and try to max out EVERY TIME. Seriously who can, and does do that beside newbs?

[/quote]

WHO THE HELL SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ATTEMPTING A 1RM PR EVERY WORKOUT? Certainly not I.

I can see that youre not understand what Im saying. Thatll be all from me here. [/quote]

What are your lifting stats? What are the numbers for some of your lifts at the given bodyweight?

I want to see the result from someone who claims that the best way to train is to try to set PRs every workout.[/quote]

You want to see results? Look at my damn hub.

I train like a bodybuilder. And I have pictures posted. I havent attempted a 1rm in well over 5 years, since I know that’s what youre getting at. I dont train for strength, at all. And Im not looking to get much bigger so increases in raw numbers are of little concern to me.

Off the top of my head within the past 3 months Ive completed 65lb dumbell curls for 10 reps while seated on a high incline bench. 295x7 or 8 on incline barbell bench press. at 185lbs. And no you arent getting videos.

Im afraid to even ask this, but if you go to the gym without the goal of improving somehow, what is your goal? To just fuck around doing the same thing you did last time? Obviously it’s impossible to COMPLETE a PR every time but it absolutely should be the goal.

You appear to still be wet behind the ears, automatically thinking that “PR” means “add weight”. It doesnt, necessarily. Nor does “PR” have anything to do with a 1 rep max, except when you say it does, and I never did.

[/quote]

I already said it very clearly in my previous posts that “a PR” might mean anything from shorter time between rests, quicker reps, MORE reps, or the ultimate 1RM, and some people even distinguish competition 1RM and training 1RM. They are ALL PRs. I got this from the get go. I got this 4 years ago when I started training.

Ok so let me get this:

if your goal is NOT strength, and NOT much size, but you are still trying to improve and set PRs every work out, then tell me how that makes sense without contradiction.

It looks like you are on a maintenance mode, as I am too at this point, and yes you can fuck around a little bit and still maintain previous strength and size levels easily.

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:
trying to break a 1RM PR on the squat.

Setting a goal of breaking that second type of PR as a goal for EVERY training session is just downright retarded.

[/quote]

No bodybuilder or powerlifter does this.

Youre creating nonsensical hypotheticals.

But after seeing some of the stuff on your website I cant say that surprises me. [/quote]

I’m sure a lot of powerlifter plan their PR attempts ahead of times. Unless you are on roid and or is following Westside programs.

I can think of a dozen powerlifting based programs that go by percentages where the lifter doesn’t go in and try to max out EVERY TIME. Seriously who can, and does do that beside newbs?

[/quote]

WHO THE HELL SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ATTEMPTING A 1RM PR EVERY WORKOUT? Certainly not I.

I can see that youre not understand what Im saying. Thatll be all from me here. [/quote]

What are your lifting stats? What are the numbers for some of your lifts at the given bodyweight?

I want to see the result from someone who claims that the best way to train is to try to set PRs every workout.[/quote]

You want to see results? Look at my damn hub.

I train like a bodybuilder. And I have pictures posted. I havent attempted a 1rm in well over 5 years, since I know that’s what youre getting at. I dont train for strength, at all. And Im not looking to get much bigger so increases in raw numbers are of little concern to me.

Off the top of my head within the past 3 months Ive completed 65lb dumbell curls for 10 reps while seated on a high incline bench. 295x7 or 8 on incline barbell bench press. at 185lbs. And no you arent getting videos.

Im afraid to even ask this, but if you go to the gym without the goal of improving somehow, what is your goal? To just fuck around doing the same thing you did last time? Obviously it’s impossible to COMPLETE a PR every time but it absolutely should be the goal.

You appear to still be wet behind the ears, automatically thinking that “PR” means “add weight”. It doesnt, necessarily. Nor does “PR” have anything to do with a 1 rep max, except when you say it does, and I never did.

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When I worked with Eric Cressey, for a whole week worth of workouts out of the month he asked me to “back up”, “take it easy” because it is a DELOAD week where NO, you won’t get a PR, because your goal isn’t even to try to get one.

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:
trying to break a 1RM PR on the squat.

Setting a goal of breaking that second type of PR as a goal for EVERY training session is just downright retarded.

[/quote]

No bodybuilder or powerlifter does this.

Youre creating nonsensical hypotheticals.

But after seeing some of the stuff on your website I cant say that surprises me. [/quote]

I’m sure a lot of powerlifter plan their PR attempts ahead of times. Unless you are on roid and or is following Westside programs.

I can think of a dozen powerlifting based programs that go by percentages where the lifter doesn’t go in and try to max out EVERY TIME. Seriously who can, and does do that beside newbs?

[/quote]

WHO THE HELL SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ATTEMPTING A 1RM PR EVERY WORKOUT? Certainly not I.

I can see that youre not understand what Im saying. Thatll be all from me here. [/quote]

What are your lifting stats? What are the numbers for some of your lifts at the given bodyweight?

I want to see the result from someone who claims that the best way to train is to try to set PRs every workout, 1RM or not.[/quote]

5/3/1? There are thousands of testimonials for that and the goal is to set a PR every time you train.

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:
trying to break a 1RM PR on the squat.

Setting a goal of breaking that second type of PR as a goal for EVERY training session is just downright retarded.

[/quote]

No bodybuilder or powerlifter does this.

Youre creating nonsensical hypotheticals.

But after seeing some of the stuff on your website I cant say that surprises me. [/quote]

I’m sure a lot of powerlifter plan their PR attempts ahead of times. Unless you are on roid and or is following Westside programs.

I can think of a dozen powerlifting based programs that go by percentages where the lifter doesn’t go in and try to max out EVERY TIME. Seriously who can, and does do that beside newbs?

[/quote]

WHO THE HELL SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ATTEMPTING A 1RM PR EVERY WORKOUT? Certainly not I.

I can see that youre not understand what Im saying. Thatll be all from me here. [/quote]

What are your lifting stats? What are the numbers for some of your lifts at the given bodyweight?

I want to see the result from someone who claims that the best way to train is to try to set PRs every workout.[/quote]

You want to see results? Look at my damn hub.

I train like a bodybuilder. And I have pictures posted. I havent attempted a 1rm in well over 5 years, since I know that’s what youre getting at. I dont train for strength, at all. And Im not looking to get much bigger so increases in raw numbers are of little concern to me.

Off the top of my head within the past 3 months Ive completed 65lb dumbell curls for 10 reps while seated on a high incline bench. 295x7 or 8 on incline barbell bench press. at 185lbs. And no you arent getting videos.

Im afraid to even ask this, but if you go to the gym without the goal of improving somehow, what is your goal? To just fuck around doing the same thing you did last time? Obviously it’s impossible to COMPLETE a PR every time but it absolutely should be the goal.

You appear to still be wet behind the ears, automatically thinking that “PR” means “add weight”. It doesnt, necessarily. Nor does “PR” have anything to do with a 1 rep max, except when you say it does, and I never did.

[/quote]

When I worked with Eric Cressey, for a whole week worth of workouts out of the month he asked me to “back up”, “take it easy” because it is a DELOAD week where NO, you won’t get a PR, because your goal isn’t even to try to get one. [/quote]

Ok you got me with a deload week.

I figured it was common sense that making progress is impossible when you take time off from the gym, which is what a deload is.

Good job on finding a technical loophole in my ideology.

I dont even think you realize what you said in your first post of this thread. And how wrong it was, thus your need to wander into the realm of arguing semantics over what ‘progress’ means.

Youre really out there man.

[quote]challer1 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:
trying to break a 1RM PR on the squat.

Setting a goal of breaking that second type of PR as a goal for EVERY training session is just downright retarded.

[/quote]

No bodybuilder or powerlifter does this.

Youre creating nonsensical hypotheticals.

But after seeing some of the stuff on your website I cant say that surprises me. [/quote]

I’m sure a lot of powerlifter plan their PR attempts ahead of times. Unless you are on roid and or is following Westside programs.

I can think of a dozen powerlifting based programs that go by percentages where the lifter doesn’t go in and try to max out EVERY TIME. Seriously who can, and does do that beside newbs?

[/quote]

WHO THE HELL SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ATTEMPTING A 1RM PR EVERY WORKOUT? Certainly not I.

I can see that youre not understand what Im saying. Thatll be all from me here. [/quote]

What are your lifting stats? What are the numbers for some of your lifts at the given bodyweight?

I want to see the result from someone who claims that the best way to train is to try to set PRs every workout, 1RM or not.[/quote]

5/3/1? There are thousands of testimonials for that and the goal is to set a PR every time you train.
[/quote]

I do agree with the methodology of setting a PR every time you train, ONLY on the sessions that wasn’t intentionally designed for deloads. That, for me, was 90 - 95 percent of all training sessions. The other 5 - 10 were, like i said, DELOAD sessions where the goal is to deliberately BACK OFF both physically and psychologically. THAT worked for me.

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:
trying to break a 1RM PR on the squat.

Setting a goal of breaking that second type of PR as a goal for EVERY training session is just downright retarded.

[/quote]

No bodybuilder or powerlifter does this.

Youre creating nonsensical hypotheticals.

But after seeing some of the stuff on your website I cant say that surprises me. [/quote]

I’m sure a lot of powerlifter plan their PR attempts ahead of times. Unless you are on roid and or is following Westside programs.

I can think of a dozen powerlifting based programs that go by percentages where the lifter doesn’t go in and try to max out EVERY TIME. Seriously who can, and does do that beside newbs?

[/quote]

WHO THE HELL SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ATTEMPTING A 1RM PR EVERY WORKOUT? Certainly not I.

I can see that youre not understand what Im saying. Thatll be all from me here. [/quote]

What are your lifting stats? What are the numbers for some of your lifts at the given bodyweight?

I want to see the result from someone who claims that the best way to train is to try to set PRs every workout.[/quote]

You want to see results? Look at my damn hub.

I train like a bodybuilder. And I have pictures posted. I havent attempted a 1rm in well over 5 years, since I know that’s what youre getting at. I dont train for strength, at all. And Im not looking to get much bigger so increases in raw numbers are of little concern to me.

Off the top of my head within the past 3 months Ive completed 65lb dumbell curls for 10 reps while seated on a high incline bench. 295x7 or 8 on incline barbell bench press. at 185lbs. And no you arent getting videos.

Im afraid to even ask this, but if you go to the gym without the goal of improving somehow, what is your goal? To just fuck around doing the same thing you did last time? Obviously it’s impossible to COMPLETE a PR every time but it absolutely should be the goal.

You appear to still be wet behind the ears, automatically thinking that “PR” means “add weight”. It doesnt, necessarily. Nor does “PR” have anything to do with a 1 rep max, except when you say it does, and I never did.

[/quote]

I already said it very clearly in my previous posts that “a PR” might mean anything from shorter time between rests, quicker reps, MORE reps, or the ultimate 1RM, and some people even distinguish competition 1RM and training 1RM. They are ALL PRs. I got this from the get go. I got this 4 years ago when I started training.

Ok so let me get this:

if your goal is NOT strength, and NOT much size, but you are still trying to improve and set PRs every work out, then tell me how that makes sense without contradiction.

It looks like you are on a maintenance mode, as I am too at this point, and yes you can fuck around a little bit and still maintain previous strength and size levels easily.

[/quote]

How do I set PRs?

By swapping out an exercise and progressing on it.

By completeing the same amount of work Ive previously done in a shorter amount of time.

By completing more work, overall, without sacrificing the weight used.

If I leave the gym having done exactly what I did the week before, that workout is deemed a failure.

must I continue? do you understand what people are saying to you?

And believe me, nothing youve said has been ‘very clear’. Considering the fact that you are changing your claims in every other post, what youre saying is the opposite of clear.

On the scale of annoyance youve gone from about a 3 to a 10+ in a matter of a dozen posts.

That takes some skill. Well done.

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:
trying to break a 1RM PR on the squat.

Setting a goal of breaking that second type of PR as a goal for EVERY training session is just downright retarded.

[/quote]

No bodybuilder or powerlifter does this.

Youre creating nonsensical hypotheticals.

But after seeing some of the stuff on your website I cant say that surprises me. [/quote]

I’m sure a lot of powerlifter plan their PR attempts ahead of times. Unless you are on roid and or is following Westside programs.

I can think of a dozen powerlifting based programs that go by percentages where the lifter doesn’t go in and try to max out EVERY TIME. Seriously who can, and does do that beside newbs?

[/quote]

WHO THE HELL SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ATTEMPTING A 1RM PR EVERY WORKOUT? Certainly not I.

I can see that youre not understand what Im saying. Thatll be all from me here. [/quote]

What are your lifting stats? What are the numbers for some of your lifts at the given bodyweight?

I want to see the result from someone who claims that the best way to train is to try to set PRs every workout.[/quote]

You want to see results? Look at my damn hub.

I train like a bodybuilder. And I have pictures posted. I havent attempted a 1rm in well over 5 years, since I know that’s what youre getting at. I dont train for strength, at all. And Im not looking to get much bigger so increases in raw numbers are of little concern to me.

Off the top of my head within the past 3 months Ive completed 65lb dumbell curls for 10 reps while seated on a high incline bench. 295x7 or 8 on incline barbell bench press. at 185lbs. And no you arent getting videos.

Im afraid to even ask this, but if you go to the gym without the goal of improving somehow, what is your goal? To just fuck around doing the same thing you did last time? Obviously it’s impossible to COMPLETE a PR every time but it absolutely should be the goal.

You appear to still be wet behind the ears, automatically thinking that “PR” means “add weight”. It doesnt, necessarily. Nor does “PR” have anything to do with a 1 rep max, except when you say it does, and I never did.

[/quote]

When I worked with Eric Cressey, for a whole week worth of workouts out of the month he asked me to “back up”, “take it easy” because it is a DELOAD week where NO, you won’t get a PR, because your goal isn’t even to try to get one. [/quote]

Ok you got me with a deload week.

I figured it was common sense that making progress is impossible when you take time off from the gym, which is what a deload is.

Good job on finding a technical loophole in my ideology.

I dont even think you realize what you said in your first post of this thread. And how wrong it was, thus your need to wander into the realm of arguing semantics over what ‘progress’ means.

Youre really out there man. [/quote]

I agree that I sound like a close minded prick when I made the first post. I wasn’t being 100 percent serious on my first post. I was partially trolling and hopefully making a point in an exaggerated way. The point being :

studying a lot and getting stressed over it (like you would, in law school) can possibly and might make you a little sluggish in the weightroom, and that if your ULTIMATE DREAM goal in life is to make progress in the weight room, then maybe you should just sleep 10 hours a day and sip on protein shakes 5 times a day.

And I agree with you that “progress” means a lot of different things.

Hell I’m just maintaining my weight and bf level. And I look at it as “progress” if I stay the same every morning. That gives me a room to “fuck around” from time to time in the gym without trying to set PRs. And I’m totally happy with that.

that should be all from me.

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:
trying to break a 1RM PR on the squat.

Setting a goal of breaking that second type of PR as a goal for EVERY training session is just downright retarded.

[/quote]

No bodybuilder or powerlifter does this.

Youre creating nonsensical hypotheticals.

But after seeing some of the stuff on your website I cant say that surprises me. [/quote]

I’m sure a lot of powerlifter plan their PR attempts ahead of times. Unless you are on roid and or is following Westside programs.

I can think of a dozen powerlifting based programs that go by percentages where the lifter doesn’t go in and try to max out EVERY TIME. Seriously who can, and does do that beside newbs?

[/quote]

WHO THE HELL SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ATTEMPTING A 1RM PR EVERY WORKOUT? Certainly not I.

I can see that youre not understand what Im saying. Thatll be all from me here. [/quote]

What are your lifting stats? What are the numbers for some of your lifts at the given bodyweight?

I want to see the result from someone who claims that the best way to train is to try to set PRs every workout.[/quote]

You want to see results? Look at my damn hub.

I train like a bodybuilder. And I have pictures posted. I havent attempted a 1rm in well over 5 years, since I know that’s what youre getting at. I dont train for strength, at all. And Im not looking to get much bigger so increases in raw numbers are of little concern to me.

Off the top of my head within the past 3 months Ive completed 65lb dumbell curls for 10 reps while seated on a high incline bench. 295x7 or 8 on incline barbell bench press. at 185lbs. And no you arent getting videos.

Im afraid to even ask this, but if you go to the gym without the goal of improving somehow, what is your goal? To just fuck around doing the same thing you did last time? Obviously it’s impossible to COMPLETE a PR every time but it absolutely should be the goal.

You appear to still be wet behind the ears, automatically thinking that “PR” means “add weight”. It doesnt, necessarily. Nor does “PR” have anything to do with a 1 rep max, except when you say it does, and I never did.

[/quote]

I already said it very clearly in my previous posts that “a PR” might mean anything from shorter time between rests, quicker reps, MORE reps, or the ultimate 1RM, and some people even distinguish competition 1RM and training 1RM. They are ALL PRs. I got this from the get go. I got this 4 years ago when I started training.

Ok so let me get this:

if your goal is NOT strength, and NOT much size, but you are still trying to improve and set PRs every work out, then tell me how that makes sense without contradiction.

It looks like you are on a maintenance mode, as I am too at this point, and yes you can fuck around a little bit and still maintain previous strength and size levels easily.

[/quote]

How do I set PRs?

By swapping out an exercise and progressing on it.

By completeing the same amount of work Ive previously done in a shorter amount of time.

By completing more work, overall, without sacrificing the weight used.

If I leave the gym having done exactly what I did the week before, that workout is deemed a failure.

must I continue? do you understand what people are saying to you?

And believe me, nothing youve said has been ‘very clear’. Considering the fact that you are changing your claims in every other post, what youre saying is the opposite of clear. [/quote]

Those are good PRs and good goals to set before every work out session.

But you said your goal was to not gain much size, and also not to increase strength…but if you did all that, aren’t you gonna automatically improve both, if not one and not the other?

I’m just wondering…because like I said I’m maintaining right now, and I don’t try to set PRs nor have that mindset every work out.

But I know what it’s like to not set PRs, not matter how small they are.

i used to be unable to sleep because I would be depressed for days over a training session and go all out on the next one to prove to myself that I’m not a failure So trust me, I know what you are talking about .

I think this thread is gonna burn out my CNS and I won’t be able to workout tomorrow.

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
That is my question how is Law school harder than real life as an adult? I worked 60+ hours a week, went to school full time, for undergrad and grad school, got remarried, got my kids 3 days a week, coached all the kids soccer, baseball etc Still lifted or ran, minimum 3 days a week. Did take a few years off for injury but not out of choice. [/quote]

It definitely isnt harder. No question there

But it’s different in the sense that the competition is so intense that while youre lifting weights 4-5 hours a week you know there are people using that time to study. It crosses your mind no matter what. But I learned quickly that theres always a way to do more and theres always something you can eliminate from your life to allow more studying. But then youre left with only school and I’d shoot myself before that happened. Its just a mental hangup that a student needs to get passed, IMO.

For jobs that employees are competing against each other to generate profits it’s similar. And for people running their own businesses. But many jobs have a finite amount of work to be done. Thats how I see it, at least. [/quote]

I understand about the different Bonez believe me best friend went to law school, little sister went also. I know it is very cut throat, no way for me to relate to a point cause I have not gone myself.

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]digitalairair wrote:
trying to break a 1RM PR on the squat.

Setting a goal of breaking that second type of PR as a goal for EVERY training session is just downright retarded.

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No bodybuilder or powerlifter does this.

Youre creating nonsensical hypotheticals.

But after seeing some of the stuff on your website I cant say that surprises me. [/quote]

I’m sure a lot of powerlifter plan their PR attempts ahead of times. Unless you are on roid and or is following Westside programs.

I can think of a dozen powerlifting based programs that go by percentages where the lifter doesn’t go in and try to max out EVERY TIME. Seriously who can, and does do that beside newbs?

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WHO THE HELL SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ATTEMPTING A 1RM PR EVERY WORKOUT? Certainly not I.

I can see that youre not understand what Im saying. Thatll be all from me here. [/quote]

What are your lifting stats? What are the numbers for some of your lifts at the given bodyweight?

I want to see the result from someone who claims that the best way to train is to try to set PRs every workout.[/quote]

You want to see results? Look at my damn hub.

I train like a bodybuilder. And I have pictures posted. I havent attempted a 1rm in well over 5 years, since I know that’s what youre getting at. I dont train for strength, at all. And Im not looking to get much bigger so increases in raw numbers are of little concern to me.

Off the top of my head within the past 3 months Ive completed 65lb dumbell curls for 10 reps while seated on a high incline bench. 295x7 or 8 on incline barbell bench press. at 185lbs. And no you arent getting videos.

Im afraid to even ask this, but if you go to the gym without the goal of improving somehow, what is your goal? To just fuck around doing the same thing you did last time? Obviously it’s impossible to COMPLETE a PR every time but it absolutely should be the goal.

You appear to still be wet behind the ears, automatically thinking that “PR” means “add weight”. It doesnt, necessarily. Nor does “PR” have anything to do with a 1 rep max, except when you say it does, and I never did.

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I already said it very clearly in my previous posts that “a PR” might mean anything from shorter time between rests, quicker reps, MORE reps, or the ultimate 1RM, and some people even distinguish competition 1RM and training 1RM. They are ALL PRs. I got this from the get go. I got this 4 years ago when I started training.

Ok so let me get this:

if your goal is NOT strength, and NOT much size, but you are still trying to improve and set PRs every work out, then tell me how that makes sense without contradiction.

It looks like you are on a maintenance mode, as I am too at this point, and yes you can fuck around a little bit and still maintain previous strength and size levels easily.

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How do I set PRs?

By swapping out an exercise and progressing on it.

By completeing the same amount of work Ive previously done in a shorter amount of time.

By completing more work, overall, without sacrificing the weight used.

If I leave the gym having done exactly what I did the week before, that workout is deemed a failure.

must I continue? do you understand what people are saying to you?

And believe me, nothing youve said has been ‘very clear’. Considering the fact that you are changing your claims in every other post, what youre saying is the opposite of clear. [/quote]

Those are good PRs and good goals to set before every work out session.

But you said your goal was to not gain much size, and also not to increase strength…but if you did all that, aren’t you gonna automatically improve both, if not one and not the other?

I’m just wondering…because like I said I’m maintaining right now, and I don’t try to set PRs nor have that mindset every work out.

But I know what it’s like to not set PRs, not matter how small they are.

i used to be unable to sleep because I would be depressed for days over a training session and go all out on the next one to prove to myself that I’m not a failure So trust me, I know what you are talking about . [/quote]

You have issues

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
That is my question how is Law school harder than real life as an adult? I worked 60+ hours a week, went to school full time, for undergrad and grad school, got remarried, got my kids 3 days a week, coached all the kids soccer, baseball etc Still lifted or ran, minimum 3 days a week. Did take a few years off for injury but not out of choice. [/quote]

It definitely isnt harder. No question there

But it’s different in the sense that the competition is so intense that while youre lifting weights 4-5 hours a week you know there are people using that time to study. It crosses your mind no matter what. But I learned quickly that theres always a way to do more and theres always something you can eliminate from your life to allow more studying. But then youre left with only school and I’d shoot myself before that happened. Its just a mental hangup that a student needs to get passed, IMO.

For jobs that employees are competing against each other to generate profits it’s similar. And for people running their own businesses. But many jobs have a finite amount of work to be done. Thats how I see it, at least. [/quote]

I understand about the different Bonez believe me best friend went to law school, little sister went also. I know it is very cut throat, no way for me to relate to a point cause I have not gone myself.

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For me the difficulty wasn’t the competition - I wasn’t competing against my classmates for jobs because I knew I was going to a completely different market. For me, the difficulty first year was learning a new language, second year was a heavy work load, and third year was boredom. :wink:

Also, this thread is about lawyers, not debating. Assholes, stay on topic.

[quote]pushmepullme wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
That is my question how is Law school harder than real life as an adult? I worked 60+ hours a week, went to school full time, for undergrad and grad school, got remarried, got my kids 3 days a week, coached all the kids soccer, baseball etc Still lifted or ran, minimum 3 days a week. Did take a few years off for injury but not out of choice. [/quote]

It definitely isnt harder. No question there

But it’s different in the sense that the competition is so intense that while youre lifting weights 4-5 hours a week you know there are people using that time to study. It crosses your mind no matter what. But I learned quickly that theres always a way to do more and theres always something you can eliminate from your life to allow more studying. But then youre left with only school and I’d shoot myself before that happened. Its just a mental hangup that a student needs to get passed, IMO.

For jobs that employees are competing against each other to generate profits it’s similar. And for people running their own businesses. But many jobs have a finite amount of work to be done. Thats how I see it, at least. [/quote]

I understand about the different Bonez believe me best friend went to law school, little sister went also. I know it is very cut throat, no way for me to relate to a point cause I have not gone myself.

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Also, this thread is about Asshole lawyers.
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Okay back on thread.

Derek, that’s redundant.

[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
Derek, that’s redundant.[/quote]

Yes I know.

I am always amazed, not to be a dick but if you cant handle school and working out, how the fuck you going to handle WORKING, LIFE and WORKING OUT. Not a shot at the OP, cause I really dont think that was what he is saying. I took it as a general question of the uninformed.

However common sense should kick in at some point and you basically could put this question in perspective.