Just a thought:
Say, I change the routine one day and, as a result, my muscles are sore for a couple days. Normally, I would pretty much ignore that and keep working through it.
But today I thought - is that optimal? Will it affect in any way muscle development and strength increase if I’m working out while the muscles are still sore?
I don’t mind the pain, I’m strictly concerned about gains. In any case, since I always have at least one, if not 2 days of recovery between sessions, the soreness is not too bad by the time the next session is up. Moreover, it only happens rarely, when I change the routine.
Background info: I’m working out 3 times a week (Mon, Wed, Fri), each muscle is exercised at least 2 if not 3 times a week. I change the routine every once in a while, when I seem to make slow progress.
Does someone have a better answer for this guy, cause i’m having the same problem. But my legs are always sore, which kept me from Good mornings and hack squat today. Plus the velocity diet.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Does someone have a better answer for this guy, cause i’m having the same problem. But my legs are always sore, which kept me from Good mornings and hack squat today. Plus the velocity diet.[/quote]
you can train thru soreness everyday. I used to train biceps 4-5 sets everyday due their fast recovery time. Some of the other larger muscles you may to be careful training if they are sore.
ideally, if you can still get a pump and arn’t straining any tendons or ligaments, just push thru the pain
that divides the champions from the losers.
overtraining doen’t come from soreness, its usually a lack of the muscle being unable to perform the work
if its sore, man up
if its not working, rest
you can tarin your muscles several times thru soreness, just be sure to give them some decent rest after a few sessions or weeks of this pounding.
if you work them hard for 3 weeks every other day or every third day… you should probably give them a weeks rest
just remember, the pump
its a good indicator of overtraining.
that soreness goes away thru some painful reps, you will still be breaking down the muscle. when you have nothing left to breakdown you will not get a pump and you will be unable to exercise properly
pain doesn’t matter as long as its sore muscles and not strain on joints and tendeons, but function does natter… make sure the muscles can properly lift the weight without some serious blockage in strength or form
[quote]mason33 wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Does someone have a better answer for this guy, cause i’m having the same problem. But my legs are always sore, which kept me from Good mornings and hack squat today. Plus the velocity diet.
you can train thru soreness everyday. I used to train biceps 4-5 sets everyday due their fast recovery time. Some of the other larger muscles you may to be careful training if they are sore.
ideally, if you can still get a pump and arn’t straining any tendons or ligaments, just push thru the pain
that divides the champions from the losers.
overtraining doen’t come from soreness, its usually a lack of the muscle being unable to perform the work
if its sore, man up
if its not working, rest
you can tarin your muscles several times thru soreness, just be sure to give them some decent rest after a few sessions or weeks of this pounding.
if you work them hard for 3 weeks every other day or every third day… you should probably give them a weeks rest
just remember, the pump
its a good indicator of overtraining.
that soreness goes away thru some painful reps, you will still be breaking down the muscle. when you have nothing left to breakdown you will not get a pump and you will be unable to exercise properly
pain doesn’t matter as long as its sore muscles and not strain on joints and tendeons, but function does natter… make sure the muscles can properly lift the weight without some serious blockage in strength or form
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I think Waterbury did an article or helpful tip thing on this subject.
Basically, if it’s just some DOMS, you can train through it, and like mentioned, the pump will flood the muscle with blood; thus delivering yummy amino acids, vitamins, minerals, etc. and helps aid recovery.
If it’s one of those “ah crap I think I broke/popped/tore/holy hell that doesn’t look right” kind of sorenesses, chances are you need to see a doctor.
Soreness usually subsides anyways, so no worries (at least until you switch it up again).
One other thing: If you aren’t using a O-3 fish oil, start.
I used to get some pretty bad DOMS after working out, usually peaking the 2nd or 3rd day after workouts.
After about 3wks of full dosage flameout, I can only really get sore if I train a muscle group in a way I’ve never trained before. No more “I can’t even move” soreness from squats, which is a big plus for me
accumulate fatigue and soreness over a period of weeks and then back off and recover more over a period of a few weeks of lighter working out
The 2nd one is more what athletes do although really it never is so cut and dry.
So no, it doesn’t stuff you up. Not one day. Your routine however should be part of a multi-week plan (that includes back off weeks) so the fact that you “changed your routine around a bit” is a bit nutso.
Now let’s say someone is on a diet…low cal diet. Velocity Diet type shit. And let’s say that lift hard and get the Soreness.
Can pushing through the soreness help even though he won’t be eating alot of calories.[/quote]
When I was doing the Waterbury Summer Project, I got severly sore after the very first workout, after the first workout using Olympic lifts, and after the 100 rep day. I was following the T-Dawg 2.0 diet. at the time.
But since I started trying to bulk, I’ve experienced a different type of soreness. I was still a little sore a couple days after the first bluking workout, but it was much more muted. I worked the muscles every bit as hard, but the soreness only seems apparent near the full stretch of the muscle instead of throughout the entire movement. It’s weird because I’m used to feeling that soreness with every inch of movement.
