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Do You Believe In A God

Blatant attempt to hijack a thread and move it here, because I think it is a valid question, and a woo woo question.

I do believe, and that is a radical change from three years ago. I believe there is divinity within us, that heaven is within, and that we have the opportunity to live in heaven on earth through enlightenment.

I read Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda and he makes a similar argument to what the Sikhs believe, all roads lead to the same god.

Neil deGrasse Tyson speaks of us all coming from the same cosmic dust, and entanglement theory - we’re all connected, and that resonates with me as well.

The idea is that the way to heaven is through enlightenment. For Paramahansa that is through the crown chakra, Christ consciousness, or Buddha consciousness.

So, according to him, the Christians have it right. The way to heaven is through the son of god - but through a similar consciousness as Christ, or Buddha. The understanding that we are all connected, and if you love your brother, you love yourself. Raise others up and you raise yourself up.

Evangelion get it righter.

Yeah, I just can’t watch that shit. Maybe because I’m Murrican. I lose attention at like thirty seconds.

@The_Myth

Oh damn, lol. I didn’t realize until now that it’s YOU who actually created this thread.

Anyway, let’s talk. I pretty much said a lot about my beliefs in that other thread. Tell me whatever you wanna say. Believe me, it’ll take a lot for me to run out of things to say on this subject.

Hey, I just appreciate everyone’s take on spirituality.

In particular, I appreciate the idea that the bible is a coded guide for the initiated, that it isn’t literal, and that it contains many self evident truths that allow you to live in heaven while still on earth.

Watch the documentary - it may stretch plausibility, but it makes a lot of sense.

Peace brother.

You’re seriously not gonna discuss things with me until I sit on a 40+ minute video?

Sigh… Nevermind. I spend FOUR HOURS a day studying philosophy and other things. I just don’t have the mental endurance to add another 40 minutes to that.

Why don’t you just summarize to me the important points?

Why spend 4 hours a day when it could all just be summarised to a few key points?

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Well, and remember, knowledge from studying isn’t very useful. Add experience to the knowledge, and now you have wisdom.

I’m guessing I have at least twenty years on you. That’s a lot of experience.

@dagill2

I believe in the power of rote learning.

@The_Myth

I don’t tackle the generic life-lesson self-help kind of wisdom. Philosophy includes things like theology and ethics and even evolutionary biology. They are far more important than whatever someone like Tony Robbins would say.

I was being slightly facetious. The point being that if he studies 4 hours + a day on one subject, which is admirable, why would another subject be ā€œeasily summarisedā€

Neither do I, never said you did.

Check out Bloom’s Taxonomy.

I am familiar with philosophy but thank you.

Agreed.

However, not a match for life experience.

You should check out Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda. He’s passed, but was a pretty smart cat and had some good takes on the similarities between Hinduism and Christianity.

But, if you’re not willing to spend 45 minutes on a BBC production about the 16 years Christ went missing, then I suspect you aren’t open to any information that doesn’t confirm beliefs you already have.

Thanks for weighing in.

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Yeah, sorry, I missed the tone. My bad.

Yes, why do your own research when the leaders of the church can tell you what to believe, lol.

@The_Myth

Easy dude, like I said I love talking about this stuff. You make it sound like you don’t wanna talk about it anymore. lol

To clarify, it’s not that I don’t wanna hear or read about opposing viewpoints. It’s just that my time is limited. With my daily studies and rote learning style reading, I also study bodybuilding/powerlifting/nutrition stuff. Essentially I’m doing some type of purposeless cramming. Of course I have my own purpose for it, but it’s nothing officially academic. This is for a bigger purpose.

Look, I can check out that BBC video if you like. But perhaps not today… How about tomorrow?

And the Christ-ain’t-divine-and-is-a-fraud-Buddhist thing is not the first time unbelievers attempted to defame and slander him. lol. Wanna know what’s funny? People have been trying to disprove God before Rome existed. lol

I guess it’s only fair to spill the reason why I’m such a devoted Christian. Many reasons. But the one reason I’ll share with you is this. HOPE. The Promised Land… I said it in a different thread and I’ll say it again. Buddha promises a better life by forgoing worldly pursuits. Jesus promises a better life by improving the world. Psychologically, you can clearly see which is the healthier belief.

People have been trying to disprove other people’s Gods since God’s existed.

And all the time, I’m over here with my orbiting teacup, waiting.

Well of course. ā€œTruth, by definition, is exclusive.ā€ -Ravi Zacharias.

At the same time, only ONE thing can be true. In the works of the prophet Isaiah, he predicted the miracles to be performed by Christ, in which Christ fulfilled. His miracles are historical.

Depends what god you’re talking about. There were plenty of gods that you don’t believe in that existed well before Rome, and plenty after as well.

@Drew1411

lol.

I’m not a liberal. As far as I’m concerned, any god outside of the Singular God of the Bible is pagan.

I think the real difficulty of those who are arguing FOR God is the issue of proof of His Existence. It’s an incredibly tough subject and I only have an elementary understanding of the main ones. But I’m not afraid to present what I know.

No worries Bruh. I just don’t think you actually like talking about this stuff - I think you like to pontificate what you have swallowed, hook, line, and sinker.

It’s not that you don’t want to hear, you just don’t have time or inclination. Because of that, any discussion is going to fall on deaf ears.

Yes, much too big for me or anybody else to comprehend, so don’t bother trying to explain it because it’s too complex for us peons.

So, any possible alternative narrative is defamation and slander?

Inaccurate portrayal of Buddhism, but to be expected from a myopic and parochial christian.

Only if you are trying to control the masses.

Just keep reading brother, I love you!

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That would be your burden as the one who has a relationship with a guy who has been dead for over 2000 years.

So you are an atheist to all religions and gods outside of one.

I never said you were. I’m curious what you actually believe though. How old do you believe the earth to be? Do you believe in evolution?

No, the issue is faith is a gift from G-d. A person has faith or they don’t. Nazarenes such as yourself, especially good and faithful ones, don’t get that. Jews, being rather infamously chosen, generally understand.

Sure, some can rebel against the still small voice and intentionally ignore it. They are obviously in need of help, and you should give it to them.

But most are not given the gift.

There is no use explaining color to someone who is blind.

People (Jewish, non-Jewish, whatever) are chosen by G-d to be with Him. Or they are not.

No point in banging your head against an immovable wall.

Note, this is no judgment on those who are not given faith. I certainly did nothing to have faith. I was just born that way. Faith alone doesn’t remotely make me a better person. (Although what one does as a result of such faith can.)

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