thank you that was very helpful
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Question: my cyp is in oil and the stuff is thick. You can use a 29 on that?
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Yes, it takes time to fill and the alcohol will boil then reincorporate. Injection is faster as the small bore syringe can create very high pressure. Feel free to PM as well if you like.
anavar is pretty safe for women in low low dosages …so is winny …winny pretty m uch only works on women. I train many women some at the pro level and it saddens me when they come to me with wrinkled masculanized features and a deep voice hoarsly telling me th at thier feme nine and men want them more than ever.I wish women would stick to trying it naturaly for a few years instead of looking 50 at 30 years old. Just sad
[quote]Npccompetitor69 wrote:
anavar is pretty safe for women in low low dosages …so is winny …winny pretty m uch only works on women. I train many women some at the pro level and it saddens me when they come to me with wrinkled masculanized features and a deep voice hoarsly telling me th at thier feme nine and men want them more than ever.I wish women would stick to trying it naturaly for a few years instead of looking 50 at 30 years old. Just sad[/quote]
The wrinkly look is from too much tanning. Steroids does not cause wrinkles.
[quote]Prisoner#22 wrote:
The wrinkly look is from too much tanning. Steroids does not cause wrinkles.[/quote]
That is true. In TRT cases, including mine, skin improves greatly. Better - not worse.
My skin was thin, crinkly/paper-like and inelastic. After 6 weeks on vitamin T my skin was thicker and elastic.
If you pinch and pull up on the skin on the back of your hand and then release, you can judge the condition of the skin. Before TRT my skin stayed up in a pinch then slowly recovered. Now it pulls back down flat instantly. That is decades of anti-aging in that regard. This also improve the skin on the face and makes one look younger. It you had acne or other such skin problems in your 20’s - 30’s, You will have that come back too. These skin changes are easy to see. There will be similar changes occurring to internal tissues that are unseen. Vitamin T deficiencies need to be corrected!
If someone was depressing E greatly, that might have some adverse effects on the skin.
It sure as hell wrecks the skin on women. its not from tanning…look at a national level womens show …look at the women over thirty and tell me steroids dont wreck thier skin in the facial area.
[quote]Npccompetitor69 wrote:
anavar is pretty safe for women in low low dosages …so is winny …winny pretty m uch only works on women. I train many women some at the pro level and it saddens me when they come to me with wrinkled masculanized features and a deep voice hoarsly telling me th at thier feme nine and men want them more than ever.I wish women would stick to trying it naturaly for a few years instead of looking 50 at 30 years old. Just sad[/quote]
Winstrol…Is NOT a drug I would even think about giving to a woman that wants to stay feminine…As it is VERY VERY androgenic…It may not be a big bulker …But it is highly androgenic …Out of the question for a lady wanting to stay a lady …
And like a couple others mentioned those woman that are wrinkled up are probably so due to the low body fat levels they maintain off season ,and especially contest . Steroids don’t cause wrinkles in men or woman …
[quote]Prisoner#22 wrote:
A lot of times OA is accompanied by Osteoporosis.
As for the virilization effects of steroids in women, I will say that they are vastly over emphasized by many ignorant posters on this site and many other sites.
Yes the period stops, but it does return to normal following succession of the steroids.
Steroids when taken responsibly by women can be taken safely.
Obviously you are not worrying about having children at this point so that is not a problem we have to worry about.
My wife is 38 years old, and is in a simmilar sittuation as we are not worried about having children.
She started using steroids out of curiosity to enhance training, but quickly found that they were the one and only sure relief of chronic deabilitating headaches she would get.
We have tried many compounds, but her favorite has been winstrol, used at 10 mg per day orally.
She feels ‘bloated’ using anavar.
We have also used compounds such as Primobolan, Equipoise, Proviron, and Nandrolone phenylpropinate (a faster clearance time than deca). winstrol, and Anavar. We will be trying Oral Turinabol in the next few days.
From our experience I can tell you you want to be carefull using the compounds that are long acting - the injectable depots with the long esters that take a while to clear.
using the orals or short acting injectables, if any negative side effects that you don’t want occur, you just need to reduce your dosage or stop, and the side effects will reverse themselves before it is too late.
When using injectables, I found that the safety zone for using long acting depots such as primo and equipoise, was to stay at 50mg total for the week.
at 100mg, masculinazation sides would begin to appear - i.e. her voice might begin to sound lower.
I will say this though if you do notice lowering of voice and stop the injectables right away, the voice does return, to normal afterward.
The sides you want to be carefull with are voice lowering, and hair growth.
Clitoral enlargement, for most women is acceptable.
Normally the sides don’t appear all at once, but go in steps, and succession coresponding to how androgentic your steroids you are using are, or how high the dose you are using:
first is increased libido, then period changes or stops, then clitoral enlargement, then the voice can begin to lower, and following that or at the same time hair growth. (There may be slight differences depending on genetics of the individual, however this is the general model)
Masculinization sides have nothing to do with how long you are on the steroids for, and everything to do with the strength of the dose you are using, or the degree of androgenicity.
Over all my wife’s experience using steroids has been extremenly positive for her quality of life. I never pushed them on her, and still don’t. She takes them of her own accord. I think you should try them, as there is a good chance they could improve your quality of life, as all anabolic steroids do increase calcium retention and bone mass.
There are some pictures of my wife on my profile, she is very feminine looking all will agree.
Also keep in mind, at the recent figure olympia, there for sure wasn’t a single figures competitor out there that wasn’t jacked, and nobody on here would say that any of those women were in anyway masculine at all.
A P.S. would also be to research using HGH for enhancing bone density, and quality of life/ anti-aging purposes.[/quote]
I would totally agree here.
Also as suggested look at hGH but i would add IGF.
Send me a PM with your email and I can send you some information on HRT for females.
I would add that deca may be a good option - just need to use it correctly.
wow you dont give women winny? your an ignorant tool. I got news for you I’m around many many more women bodybuilders than both of you and the skin on the faces is aging at a much faster rate then on non steroidal women i’m talking about powerlifting women also that dont get low body fat or tan so all that these many many women have in common is an abuse of androgenic steroids. Deca has huge side effects on women and I have first hand knowledge. The only women to look decent took lite doses of primo and winny and some anavar…eq is ok in low doses and I would agree also on the deca in low low doses
[quote]Npccompetitor69 wrote:
wow you dont give women winny? your an ignorant tool. I got news for you I’m around many many more women bodybuilders than both of you and the skin on the faces is aging at a much faster rate then on non steroidal women i’m talking about powerlifting women also that dont get low body fat or tan so all that these many many women have in common is an abuse of androgenic steroids. Deca has huge side effects on women and I have first hand knowledge. The only women to look decent took lite doses of primo and winny and some anavar…eq is ok in low doses and I would agree also on the deca in low low doses[/quote]
Well i wouldn’t give a woman that wants to look like a woman WINNY .Fact is Winstrol is very androgenic . The woman you are around are probably only considered feminine in those circles compared to the real freaks that have basicly performed a full blown sex change though heavy use of male hormones .
Gerry its guys like you who dont know shit that should keep thier mouth shut and try not to mess people up .You dont have any idea …not a clue what your talking about
Isn’t bad osteoporosis at age 40 young, especially considering that you lift weights? I believe that thinner women suffer more osteoporosis, so maybe you need to carrying more body fat. How many years do you expect to use steroids to fix this problem? What is your long term plan?
I put a pic of my ex on my profile so you guys could see I know what i’m talking about…she is a pro , still has a high voice and hasnt messed her face up by doing the wrong drugs…women be very careful
[quote]Npccompetitor69 wrote:
Gerry its guys like you who dont know shit that should keep thier mouth shut and try not to mess people up .You dont have any idea …not a clue what your talking about[/quote]
yeah Gerry, you do seem to be preaching a sermon that I am sure you have absolutely no background or experience in.
Steroids can be taken relatively safely in both men and woman.
[quote]Npccompetitor69 wrote:
I put a pic of my ex on my profile so you guys could see I know what i’m talking about…she is a pro , still has a high voice and hasnt messed her face up by doing the wrong drugs…women be very careful[/quote]
and as for you I still don’t know why you think steroids causes woment to ‘wrinkle’.
Wrinkling in bodybuilders is more due to excessive tanning, and I might add the torchured facial expressions that some of them pull off while doing a set.
Ever heard of Botox?
lol.
[quote]Npccompetitor69 wrote:
Gerry its guys like you who dont know shit that should keep thier mouth shut and try not to mess people up .You dont have any idea …not a clue what your talking about[/quote]
Fact is winstrol is not the best choice for woman to use …Can it be yes… is it the best choice…NO …You with all your claimed expertise you should know that it is a highly androgenic derivitive of DHT . I think you are one of those clowns that thinks because it’s a mild size drug that it must be a mild drug ,And therefore a logical choice fior woman to use…
The woman I see in any competive bodybuilding event are poor choices of evaluation of it’s side effects ,and abilty to be used with no side effect ,As even the most feminine competetive female bodybuilder isn’t really all that feminine .
As to your observation of woman getting wrinkles from gear well .Steroids do not cause wrinkles .Over tanning ,and low fat diets that produce single digit bodyfat level do …Woman just seem to be more suseptable to it than men…But then again woman are supposed to have higher bodyfat levels than men so maybe this is why they get wrinkled up more so than guys with ultra low bodyfat …But it ain’t a direct result of gear .
Now I think your the one talking out your ASS ,and based on your view of winstrol being a great choice for woman shows your lack of knowledge you need to shut your mouth bfore you mess someone up . I’ll give you my home addy if you’d like to discuss the matter further in person .
[quote]Prisoner#22 wrote:
Npccompetitor69 wrote:
Gerry its guys like you who dont know shit that should keep thier mouth shut and try not to mess people up .You dont have any idea …not a clue what your talking about
yeah Gerry, you do seem to be preaching a sermon that I am sure you have absolutely no background or experience in.
Steroids can be taken relatively safely in both men and woman.
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Never said a woman can’t use steroids without some degree of safety . But I don’t think winstrol being a highly androgenic DHT derivitive the best choice for use in females …The only benefit to it’s use is that it clears the body fast so if problems arise it’s out of the system quickly unlike something like Deca which if a problem arises it’s not going to clear the system quicly .
Anavar is a better choice than winny in females …Better yet the discontinued steroid Maxilbolin …ethylestrenol.
[quote]Npccompetitor69 wrote:
I put a pic of my ex on my profile so you guys could see I know what i’m talking about…she is a pro , still has a high voice and hasnt messed her face up by doing the wrong drugs…women be very careful[/quote]
Can’t even see the face in that pic …Anyone can post pics up on the net …It proves little other than you have posted pics on the net .Many people have avatars with pics of pro’s right…So they must be the pro-bodybuilder in the avatar pic because they posted it .