My wife(a stunning beauty)is considering joining me in my habbit. She has two solid years of training with heavy weights. She has lifted close to 4 years. She is strong for a 105lb lady- 6 pullups and benches her weight. Lately she has grown blond type facial hair, I dont know if this from heavy lifting boosting her test level or the fact she is almost 40 years old. I have wondered if it could be from my test injectings somehow transdermally getting on her???
Anyway we were wondering what would be a good product for a lady to try at 39yrs old. She desires the 6 pack fitness model look, not bodybuilding type look. Strength is also important to her she loves showing off her pullups and curling 30lb dunbells (I wink at her when some of the guys are curling the same). Facial hair is also a concern but I think she may have to have electrolisis anyway.
I have TEST E,C,P, TREN A,P and Equipoise available. If any of these are good I could try them. The only article I have read in reguards to women was on Basskillers site about Tren.
Is there anyone in your family you haven’t tried giving AAS to? Just kidding!
HaHA No I was just kidding about that 16 yr old thing. In fact that boy I know is loaded with testosterone, only problem is that his natural test doesnt shut down his fertile sperm.
This is a legit question-I read what I could, here and around there is just not much info for the ladies. I dont want her to screw herself up and get a dude voice.
OKAY OKAY from what I got from the other posts try 10% of a mans dose
My wife has similar stats, but is a touch older. She has tried several short cycles of between 5-10mg Test-P eod with very good results. She gets just a little ‘thick’ around the middle when ‘on’, but afterwards leans out nicely and keeps her modest gains. She probably wouldn’t even get that thickness, but is not super strict about her carbs. She LOVES the extra feeling of strength, vitality and horniness, and has had no long term negative sides.
She is looking forward to starting 6wks of anavar @ 10mg ed in a week or so.
Anavar, for the most part, is regarded as the ‘go to drug of choice’ when it comes to AAS for women. Testing the waters with 5-10mgs a day of oxandralone is pretty standard. Depending on how well she tolerates it, after a couple of weeks if she so pleases going to 15mgs is an option. That dose seems to be the generally accepted ‘max dose’ for our feminine females who want some roids but don’t want superclits, acne, lowered voice or a five o clock shadow. OF COURSE, any time a woman uses male sex hormones they run the risk of virilization, so do keep that in mind…
I do not want to throw out bad advice but I recall hearing of an injectable for women, was it deca at 50mgs a week? Primo??
I believe I have heard of women using winstrol too but this is heavily debated due to how ‘androgenic’ winny is (of course winstrol androgenocity is debated, hence me putting it in quotes)
Good luck, and have fun. And let the wifey know she is doing great!
I dont know if this has been covered but I read and article over at meso a while back talking about masteron for an AAS for women to use and being pretty safe as it was created for women in the first place…
May be worth looking into dont take it as hard/fast advice I havnt known any women that have taken it only what I read about it.
I know that is true, but I also recall them saying they stopped using masteron for the treatment of breast cancer due to the virilization experienced by the women taking it.
I’ve done a cycle of Primobolan but I always go back to Anavar… 50mg caps, every other day and I don’t need to cycle off of it and no side effects. I like the combination of GH plus Anavar, lifting was so fluid and smooth and I was my most cut with this combination.
Right now… I’m only using Clen and Anavar and will be getting back on with G very very soon…
I would be very wary of UG caps supposedly containing 50mg of anavar…i am not doubting they work but i doubt its anavar and you can bet your ass its not 50mg of anavar. Do you know how UG “capping machines” work? They are random at best, not a good idea for anyone and CERTAINLY not for a female where dosing is much more critical. I would NEVER use anything in a female except phamacy grade anavar and/or primobolan.
10mg of REAL anavar a day is plenty or 50mg-100mg of primobolan enanthate injectable weekly. One step above that would be to combine the two, but unless you are seriously competitive any more is just not needed.
THis topic has been covered before a few times but I had to search this recently so I will help you out.
Best advice for women starting AAS is to go with something fast acting (this way if they start seeing any signs/symptoms of virilization they can drop the compound and it will clear within a few days). Doses need to be kept low and keeping constant levels becomes even more important so once tolerance is tested and they want to go to a longer estered compound it is still best to inject frequently.
If a girl really wants to test her limits it is best to slowly ramp up the dose with a single compound until they know how much is too much and then drop the compound totally until it clears and the symptoms go away. Stacking compounds below that tested level is best if you want to get more kick without turning into a dude.
Best options are (the ranges are just average doses, it doesn’t mean they are safe and the upper range will likely cause virilization in many):
Oral
- var - low virilization although this provides bloating and mood issues in some (10-20mg/d)
- winny - seems to be faily well tolerated but virilization is a strong concern so dose needs to be kept low (5-15mg/d)
- oral primo ace - not 17AA so it’s not liver toxic which is great but very expensive expecially at the doses required (25-50mg/d I think, can’t remember off the top of my head)
- oral clostebol ace - same as primo ace it is not liver toxic and very mild even in fairly high doses (25-50mg/d)
Inject
- test p or enth - very high possibility of virilization so dose needs to be kept low and injected daily or at most eod (5-10mg ed to eod…preferably ed)…once tolerance is established with prop then they can switch to enth but they would still need to inject at least eod
- NPP or deca - fairly mild in terms of virilization but acne seems to become a problem for many (can’t remember typical dose range…I think something like 10-20mg eod from memory)…once tolerance is established with NPP then they could switch to deca
- Masteron prop or enth - Masteron seems to be well tolerated as well as long as dose is kept low and frequent (something like 10mg/d), again once tolerance is established then using enth would be ok
- Primo depot - this seems to be very well tolerated by most women but since it is longer acting you really need to know your limit because it will take 2 weeks to clear and there is possibility to do long term changes in that time (Morepain’s range of 50-100mg/w sounds about right…I would think starting at 20mg eod would be a good idea)
- Equipoise - equipoise is another common choice but since it is so long acting I don’t think it’s a good one, if you use too much it takes about a month to clear in which time virilization would be pretty much guaranteed. I think you’d be better to just use a lower dose of test p so you can pull the plug quick if something goes wrong.
In terms of other aids that women can use I think GH is a good option but obviously fairly high cost. Worth the expense in my opinion but not everyone feels the same.
Low dose clen and T3 are fairly safe as long as proper precautions are taken to ramp up and down as needed but obviously a lot of care needs to be taken with T3 so that you don’t end up causing long term damage to your thyroid. Benadryl or Ketotifen should be used either during or after each clen run to keep the beta-2 receptors working properly and avoid yo-yo weight gain. Both are very cheap and stack well with GH or anabolics.
[quote]morepain wrote:
I would be very wary of UG caps supposedly containing 50mg of anavar…i am not doubting they work but i doubt its anavar and you can bet your ass its not 50mg of anavar. Do you know how UG “capping machines” work? They are random at best, not a good idea for anyone and CERTAINLY not for a female where dosing is much more critical. I would NEVER use anything in a female except phamacy grade anavar and/or primobolan.
10mg of REAL anavar a day is plenty or 50mg-100mg of primobolan enanthate injectable weekly. One step above that would be to combine the two, but unless you are seriously competitive any more is just not needed.
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I trust the source I get it from… all the people who are serious about their training use the brand I do… it’s a higher dosage, which is why I use it every other day. The guy I get it from is a bodybuilder, he trains other body builders and figure athletes and his sister is my trainer. He wouldn’t give me anything that is going to be detrimental to my body… there was actually something else I wanted to use but he wouldn’t get it for me… I’ve done a cycle with Anavar from Promatrix, which was a 10mg tab and I took one in the morning and one at noon, daily…
[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
In terms of other aids that women can use I think GH is a good option but obviously fairly high cost. Worth the expense in my opinion but not everyone feels the same.
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Totally agree… the recovery time while on G is amazing… I wouldn’t feel sore, regardless of how heavy/intense my workouts were… and like I say, I was my most lean while on this cuz it does help to speed up metabolism and burn stubborn fat. My skin always looked supple and smooth… it’s worth the high cost for premium G.
The more I think about it, the more I’m leaning towards getting another supply. It lasts longer for women, we don’t need to do a full dosage…
[quote]Ranibella wrote:
[quote]morepain wrote:
I would be very wary of UG caps supposedly containing 50mg of anavar…i am not doubting they work but i doubt its anavar and you can bet your ass its not 50mg of anavar. Do you know how UG “capping machines” work? They are random at best, not a good idea for anyone and CERTAINLY not for a female where dosing is much more critical. I would NEVER use anything in a female except phamacy grade anavar and/or primobolan.
10mg of REAL anavar a day is plenty or 50mg-100mg of primobolan enanthate injectable weekly. One step above that would be to combine the two, but unless you are seriously competitive any more is just not needed.
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I trust the source I get it from… all the people who are serious about their training use the brand I do… it’s a higher dosage, which is why I use it every other day. The guy I get it from is a bodybuilder, he trains other body builders and figure athletes and his sister is my trainer. He wouldn’t give me anything that is going to be detrimental to my body… there was actually something else I wanted to use but he wouldn’t get it for me… I’ve done a cycle with Anavar from Promatrix, which was a 10mg tab and I took one in the morning and one at noon, daily…
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i am sure the intentions are good…for reference refer to cap m quick machine…that is how almost all ug’s cap their products…now if you are mathematically inclined at all you will quickly see no matter how good your intentions are there is NO WAY the caps will be uniform and accurate…they reason they do it is because the equipment to truly uniformly mix powder ingredients and then press tabs is insane…thus the quick cap device…which is right near worthless. You would be better off making a liquid suspension and taking it as drops. no offense inteneded at all that is just a fact of the ug bodybuilding drug business.
I am writing you as a freind in bodybuilding and I hope you take my advice. DO NOT GIVE YOUR WIFE STEROIDS. Even the weakes steroids can cause woman to get nasty sides that as irreversable once they occur. I know many woman who use, including a pro in the ibff and they all have the same deep, raspy voice and somewhat manly features. Really you are talking about giving a person you love male hormones.
[quote]joeblow wrote:
I am writing you as a freind in bodybuilding and I hope you take my advice. DO NOT GIVE YOUR WIFE STEROIDS. Even the weakes steroids can cause woman to get nasty sides that as irreversable once they occur. I know many woman who use, including a pro in the ibff and they all have the same deep, raspy voice and somewhat manly features. Really you are talking about giving a person you love male hormones.[/quote]
Women have male hormones inside them anyway. You do know that, right?
BBB
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[quote]morepain wrote:
[quote]Ranibella wrote:
[quote]morepain wrote:
I would be very wary of UG caps supposedly containing 50mg of anavar…i am not doubting they work but i doubt its anavar and you can bet your ass its not 50mg of anavar. Do you know how UG “capping machines” work? They are random at best, not a good idea for anyone and CERTAINLY not for a female where dosing is much more critical. I would NEVER use anything in a female except phamacy grade anavar and/or primobolan.
10mg of REAL anavar a day is plenty or 50mg-100mg of primobolan enanthate injectable weekly. One step above that would be to combine the two, but unless you are seriously competitive any more is just not needed.
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I trust the source I get it from… all the people who are serious about their training use the brand I do… it’s a higher dosage, which is why I use it every other day. The guy I get it from is a bodybuilder, he trains other body builders and figure athletes and his sister is my trainer. He wouldn’t give me anything that is going to be detrimental to my body… there was actually something else I wanted to use but he wouldn’t get it for me… I’ve done a cycle with Anavar from Promatrix, which was a 10mg tab and I took one in the morning and one at noon, daily…
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i am sure the intentions are good…for reference refer to cap m quick machine…that is how almost all ug’s cap their products…now if you are mathematically inclined at all you will quickly see no matter how good your intentions are there is NO WAY the caps will be uniform and accurate…they reason they do it is because the equipment to truly uniformly mix powder ingredients and then press tabs is insane…thus the quick cap device…which is right near worthless. You would be better off making a liquid suspension and taking it as drops. no offense inteneded at all that is just a fact of the ug bodybuilding drug business.
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Agree that liquid solutions are the most evenly dosed UG product.
However, with respect, your analysis of the variability of powder products is a bit inaccurate IMO. as long as you can operate a food procesor (or cement mixer if that’s the scale of your AAS requirement), you can evenly mix two powders (AAS and filler) together.
BBB
I agree very much with BBB’s last statement. There is a 10% margin of error so simple solution is to dose a bit higher.