I’m posting this knowing that most of you will immediately disregard whatever I have to say but hear me out. I plan on starting a Winstrol only cycle in the beginning of May. I am 21 years old, 6’3", 192 lbs, 11% body fat. I have been lifting 5-6 times a week for almost 3 years.
My diet is almost as clean as you can get, eating 6-7 balanced meals a day, each with complex carbs and high in lean protein, always low in sat fat and sugar. No carbs after 8.
I will be taking 50mg Winstrol tabs every day for six weeks. I will start taking glucosomine 2 weeks before the cycle, as well as throughout the cycle. I will also be taking milk thistle throughout, and nolvadex for 4 weeks after the cycle is completed.
My goals for the cycle are simple. I am not looking to be a massive juicehead. I simply want to harden everything up and shed bodyfat, while putting on 5-8 lbs of LEAN muscle in the process. If all of this happens I will be extremely pleased. And yes, I know how important diet and exercise are in triggering these gains and that winstrol alone will not be a magic pill.
Keep in mind I have reasearched winstrol online the past few months religiously, and am not the typical winstrol only poster who doesnt know his ass from his elbow about anything.
I was just curious if anyone else is similar to me and has done a winstrol only cycle, and how their results were, as well as any possible problems they encountered.
I was also still unsure about how much cardio I should be doing on winstrol, right now I am shooting for 3 times a week.
Lastly, I was wondering if time of day matters in taking the milk thistle, and what the benefits are in breaking the winny tabs up and taking 25mg in the morning and 25mg in the evening.
I know people at my gym that did winnie only cycles and bragged on some crazy stats. Which made me not believe them. So I will be watching this thread with keen interest.
My goals for the cycle are simple. I am not looking to be a massive juicehead.
Thanks for any feedback.[/quote]
Dont worry, I promise you NEVER EVER will be.
Why did you choose winstrol over test?
over anavar?
over tbol?
They will just make you too massive without even trying?
My question was this. Supposedly there were some androgenic compounds which would provide minimal weight/water gain, increased muscular hardness and density, and improved power.
Good for atheletics or getting cut up.
Do those rules still not apply, I know test is king. But aren’t some of the other compunds: ( winstrol, anavar, primo ) good for cutting, strength gain, athetics?
Guys, I understand that in your opinion he shouldn’t be taking steroids, but he clearly did his research. I am also going to be getting on a winstrol only cycle because that is all I have access too and I also want that hard, defined look. My diet is similar to heat49’s. Although I am only 5"11/188/10%bf, I think this cycle will give me the gains I am looking for. All we are asking for is a little help.
[quote]bizkit497 wrote:
Guys, I understand that in your opinion he shouldn’t be taking steroids, but he clearly did his research. I am also going to be getting on a winstrol only cycle because that is all I have access too and I also want that hard, defined look. My diet is similar to heat49’s. Although I am only 5"11/188/10%bf, I think this cycle will give me the gains I am looking for. All we are asking for is a little help.[/quote]
And the problem is you think that people telling the OP that he isn’t physically ready for AAS isn’t helpful.
"Dont worry, I promise you NEVER EVER will be.
Why did you choose winstrol over test?
over anavar?
over tbol?
They will just make you too massive without even trying?
I never considered test because I am looking to mainly cut and get that hardened dry look, and only put on 5-8 lbs of lean muscle. I have no interest in injecting myself, and overall I don’t feel test meets my goals.
I briefly considered Anavar, however, it is harder to obtain and more expenseive, and I was able to get 6 weeks worth of Winny tabs for only $100.
Overall, Winstrol offers what I am looking for. Its sides are relatively small, and I feel it will help me accomplish my goals. None of my planning was done on a whim. If you feel I am not ready for steroids, that is simply your opinion.
I don’t plan on ever doing a winny only cylce; that really sounds like major joint pain just waiting to happen. Glucosamine is no wonder drug imo / ime (I am starting to like cissus for the aches, though).
If you can get some primo that’d make for a more enjoyable cycle, without adding 20 lbs to your frame.
As for dosing, I think it make sense to split the tabs so that you keep blood levels somewhat balanced. Half-life of most orals is somewhere b/w 6-12 hrs… you can google winny’s.
[quote]bizkit497 wrote:
Guys, I understand that in your opinion he shouldn’t be taking steroids, but he clearly did his research. I am also going to be getting on a winstrol only cycle because that is all I have access too and I also want that hard, defined look. My diet is similar to heat49’s. Although I am only 5"11/188/10%bf, I think this cycle will give me the gains I am looking for. All we are asking for is a little help.[/quote]
Its funny how most guys who are far below impressive size have trouble finding steroids, yet those who have years of training under there belt, and good solid size to begin with do not. Funny… You my friend also do not need steroids…
OP post before and after pics I guarantee this cycle will be a failure.
[quote]soontobeIFBB wrote:
Its funny how most guys who are far below impressive size have trouble finding steroids, yet those who have years of training under there belt, and good solid size to begin with do not. Funny… You my friend also do not need steroids…
OP post before and after pics I guarantee this cycle will be a failure.[/quote]
You got it brah. Two quick questions, what is your definition of a “failure” and 2nd, since you seem to know a lot, who does need steroids in your honest opinion?
[quote]bizkit497 wrote:
soontobeIFBB wrote:
Its funny how most guys who are far below impressive size have trouble finding steroids, yet those who have years of training under there belt, and good solid size to begin with do not. Funny… You my friend also do not need steroids…
OP post before and after pics I guarantee this cycle will be a failure.
You got it brah. Two quick questions, what is your definition of a “failure” and 2nd, since you seem to know a lot, who does need steroids in your honest opinion?
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The people that need them are the people that legally use them for the purpose they were designed for.
Patients with wasting diseases, cancer, aids, etc.
What you meant is who is ready to use them.
And that answer is lifters you can no longer make reasonable gains without them.
People that have a great deal of experience and have more or less topped out in terms of strength and development.
You are atleast 50 pounds from that point, your barely qualified as a lifter.