Woman Beaters=Cowards

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[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
legendaryblaze wrote:
(she might deserve - she might not)

Outside of holding a 9mm to a mans skull with the intention of ending his life, a woman never, ever deserves to be beaten.

I don’t care if some chick hauls off and close fists punches you square in the face. You act like a fucking man and handle shit. Not like a boy child and hit her back. Two wrongs to not make a fucking right for Christ sake.

Chivalry is not dead because of women, but because of spineless coward boys that never grew up.

Have some god damn respect for yourself.

But I do agree that you take risks interfering with something in public, but I would rather that dude beat on me than some girl regardless what she did or said.

I do have respect for myself.
I don’t give a fuck who you are. You try to target my nuts, i am going to lay you out.
It’s called not letting people walk over you. OH SHE’S A WOMAN SO IT’S OK FOR HER TO INFLICT BODILY HARM ON ME.
Cause being a man means allowing crazy bitches to do whatever the fuck they want, right?
There is never a reason for anyone to hit you. If they cannot have a civilized conversation, i don’t see why i should have to.
That being said, most cases it’s a boyfriend or husband who is extremely aggressive.

If you want that dude knifing you as opposed to just beating the woman, be my guest.
I’m sure she’ll really appreciate it after she runs back to him for the millionth time.[/quote]

If you don’t want to get hit by crazy bitches, then don’t date/fuck one. End of story. There are plenty of women out there who have a good head on their shoulders, just like there are plenty of men out there who know how to act like a man–in case you are curious, a man doesn’t hit a woman. I will allow for very specific circumstances, but the original question was a man beating on a woman, ie, domestic violence.

As to the original question, I think both names fit, and that these guys are definitely lacking in the character department. As are a lot of guys on here, apparently.

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[quote]Westclock wrote:

Well this wasn’t your girl then. Just some random bitch.[/quote]

If she were actually “my girl”, I would already be aware of how crazy she is.

No shit. I am pretty sure we can ALL tell who has actually had some life experience in these situations and who is simply going off of some fantasy about men and women while pretending to be some gallant knight who will save every damsel in distress.

Fact: if you go around trying to help every woman you THINK is being hurt while in a relationship, you will learn very quickly that many of these women CHOOSE to live like that.

If you jump into some of these altercations, you will find yourself in court for assault after the woman (who you thought you saved) brings you up on charges for hurting her man.

Fact: If they are actually in a relationship, chances are, if he is going to town on her in public then this is probably not the first time it happened.

That means use some caution instead of going off of emotion and running into something you may not be prepared for.

It is not uncommon for this to occur with the “hero” finding himself getting beat up by BOTH the woman and the guy who was beating her.

If you have never experienced this shit, them take this lesson from someone who fucking has.

Ask some of the cops on this forum if what we are saying is true.

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[quote]boatguy wrote:

If you don’t want to get hit by crazy bitches, then don’t date/fuck one. End of story. [/quote]

Wait…so women are only crazy enough to lash out if you date and/or fuck them? You don’t get out much either, huh?

This sounds like the suburban boy’s choir after they just found out that women get hurt in domestic violence cases.

Ever seen a group of girls beat up another girl so she can be initiated into a gang?

Would you rush in to stop it?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
This sounds like the suburban boy’s choir after they just found out that women get hurt in domestic violence cases.[/quote]

That’s kind of what I was saying. Yes, in an ideal world, we would all love to be the hero, but it would be pretty irresponsible of me with respect to my family if I got my skull split or got 3 years for assault for trying to save a girl that, more often than not (at least according to the cops/defense lawyers I know) will side with the guy that was hitting her.

Hell, a friend of mine got a beer bottle broke over his head when he tried to step into a situation like this. Who hit him? Why, none other than the very girl he was stepping in to “save.”

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I think it’s ok to hit girls. Like this one chick the other night. Man I hit that. I hit it like the fist of an angry god. BOWM CHIKA BOWWOW!

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[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
Professor X wrote:
This sounds like the suburban boy’s choir after they just found out that women get hurt in domestic violence cases.

That’s kind of what I was saying. Yes, in an ideal world, we would all love to be the hero, but it would be pretty irresponsible of me with respect to my family if I got my skull split or got 3 years for assault for trying to save a girl that, more often than not (at least according to the cops/defense lawyers I know) will side with the guy that was hitting her.

Hell, a friend of mine got a beer bottle broke over his head when he tried to step into a situation like this. Who hit him? Why, none other than the very girl he was stepping in to “save.”[/quote]

I think I am just surprised so many of these people are this sheltered. I mean, they’ve NEVER experienced a woman trip out and act like that? Never???

Part of me wants to grow up in whatever fantasy land allowed that and part of me is pissed that people who don’t know shit about what we are discussing have such a black and white view of it and judge everyone else to be wrong.

This is a little like people who used to claim that police violence against blacks (especially around the early 90’s) was all because we must have done something to instigate it.

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X,

I’m going to have to disagree that people who haven’t had to see this sort of behavior have anything wrong with them. They just don’t know. They definately shouldn’t accept this “dysfunctional” behavior in their neighborhood, and it is their right.

I’m sad to say, i am aware of these types of behaviors and have had to experience them and hear of others experiencing them. However I do not view myself as being better than people or “more experienced” than people who haven’t had to hear about it, save the news or internet.

Also, whats funny is I have heard of AND SEEN myself, with my own two eyes a HERO trying to break up a man and woman fighting, they where lovers. Both of the lovers turning on the HERO, smashing him to the ground and in the end, picking up a heavy steel trashcan, as he was beaten down and trowing it down upon him.

So you never know, I’m not sure how I would behave if a woman is getting raped or appearing to be attacked. There has to be some decency society left.

Just some more fodder for you guys.

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Well I have to say I’m an equal opportunist. All I hear is how woman want to be treated fairly, so be it.

I don’t get off by hitting a woman, however if a woman doesn’t respect the guy she is with enough and decided to go off on him, do what you have to do to get her to stop. Push her, squeeze her, shake her or even fucking slap her.

Obviously there is a limit to where you need to stop and not fucking demolish the women however I have little respect for a woman to think because she is a women that she can do w/e she wants.

That’s kinda like going to school and hitting someone bigger than you and he comes and fucking beats the shit out of you… then you wonder, “Well I was smaller, I don’t understand why he would hit me”

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[quote]djrobins wrote:
X,

I’m going to have to disagree that people who haven’t had to see this sort of behavior have anything wrong with them. They just don’t know. They definately shouldn’t accept this “dysfunctional” behavior in their neighborhood, and it is their right.

I’m sad to say, i am aware of these types of behaviors and have had to experience them and hear of others experiencing them. However I do not view myself as being better than people or “more experienced” than people who haven’t had to hear about it, save the news or internet.

Also, whats funny is I have heard of AND SEEN myself, with my own two eyes a HERO trying to break up a man and woman fighting, they where lovers. Both of the lovers turning on the HERO, smashing him to the ground and in the end, picking up a heavy steel trashcan, as he was beaten down and trowing it down upon him.

So you never know, I’m not sure how I would behave if a woman is getting raped or appearing to be attacked. There has to be some decency society left.

Just some more fodder for you guys.[/quote]

It isn’t about being “better”. Many of these people literally seem to act as if it is nonsense that women would get beaten and then attack the person trying to help her. It is like they just can’t comprehend it…but instead of simply saying, “damn, I never knew that happened”, many seem to be acting as if anyone who doesn’t drop everything and jump into a couple’s dispute has something wrong with their morals.

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[quote]clip11 wrote:
I came across this on youtube: - YouTube

It begs the question, are men that beat women cowards or just bullies? I never think its ok to beat a woman (barring some life and death circumstance) although some women may honestly deserve it. As far as woman beaters being cowards, I dont know. Mike Tyson, and this was Tyson in his prime, was known to beat his wife, but who wouldve considered him a coward? 1 in 4 Women Victims of Domestic Violence - YouTube

If you saw a man beating a woman in public, would you help, why or why not?[/quote]

Couple of facts to help this discussion along.

**Most violence (around 80%) is opportunistic and is male against male, E.g. robbery, drugs, etc.

If you think a woman can’t fight, just grab one of her kids.

Now, most domestic violence is started by women. You read that right. And don’t forget that that vast majority of child abusers are women. FWIW the most likely gender to be abused to death is male by their mothers.

Males usually have had a run in or two with violence by the time they are adults, even if it is not much more than a playground scuffle. Women have not, but it has become a standard mantra that women should be assertive, which usually boils down to them picking a fight. This has caused a steep and troubling rise in female juvenile crime. A lot of women are picking fights with each other too, not merely their boyfriends.

While there are some low-lifes who are bullies, guys generally don’t fight women. What would it take to get you to beat a woman? How about your kids? What do you do if she is abusing them, possible fatally? Does the hands off rule work? I know of at least one case where this was exactly what happened. Jumping in and playing white knight just gives her a free hand. Aiding and abetting Andrea Yates is possibly not what you planned, is it? What if some ex girlfriend tried to kill your current SO? Do you tackle her and disable her before she completes the job?

Oh, any cop will tell you that in a domestic dispute the women are every bit as dangerous as the men. One of my law enforcement buddies has been in 4 knife fights on duty, half of which were with women. General rule of thumb is that if there are blows being exchanged, everyone hits the floor and gets cuffed. Then you figure it out.

A last laugh, one of my Iranian friends – maybe you know her? She was clad head to toe in black, brandishing a Kalashnikov on the streets of Tehran while chanting “Death to the Great Satan” in the early 80’s. In any case, she and her husband (who were actually socialists before the mullahs and could not wait to get out) came to the US. She took a college course in the Women’s Studies Dept. and found that they constantly had to tell her how weak and victimized she was. She thought they were a bunch of Victorian spinsters with the vapours. Point is that other cultures do not share this shameful bias about women being weak.

Then there was the Empress Wu…

And as always, I might just be full of shit…

– jj

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Amen! The Professor knows. Listen to him.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Westclock wrote:

Well this wasn’t your girl then. Just some random bitch.

If she were actually “my girl”, I would already be aware of how crazy she is.

That changes the situation. she was taking advantage of the fact that you couldn’t hit her to just do what she wanted.

The solution is to hit her guy. You cant hurt her by hurting him. He should control his girl, or atleast attempt to, its his responsibility because YOU cant do anything, your hands are tied.

Honestly this situation has never happened to me…

No shit. I am pretty sure we can ALL tell who has actually had some life experience in these situations and who is simply going off of some fantasy about men and women while pretending to be some gallant knight who will save every damsel in distress.

Fact: if you go around trying to help every woman you THINK is being hurt while in a relationship, you will learn very quickly that many of these women CHOOSE to live like that.

If you jump into some of these altercations, you will find yourself in court for assault after the woman (who you thought you saved) brings you up on charges for hurting her man.

Fact: If they are actually in a relationship, chances are, if he is going to town on her in public then this is probably not the first time it happened.

That means use some caution instead of going off of emotion and running into something you may not be prepared for.

It is not uncommon for this to occur with the “hero” finding himself getting beat up by BOTH the woman and the guy who was beating her.

If you have never experienced this shit, them take this lesson from someone who fucking has.

Ask some of the cops on this forum if what we are saying is true.
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I believe in women being treated as equals to men. Therefore in a physical argument, I would personally treat a woman the same as I would a very weak man. I would refrain from beating them (because I know who would do the most damage) and walk away if possible. That is until I am physically harmed or fear that I my be physically harmed. If a woman kicks or is trying to kick me in the balls, I will forcefully restrain her or push her on her ass and leave. After that if she just won’t stop trying to hurt me or she actually does hurt me, then I will have to lay her ass out just like I would a weak man in the same situation.

That being said…

A guy I used to hang out with would get drunk and think he could do whatever he wanted. He was around 5’8 and 125-130 lbs. The guy must have gone his whole life with people letting him get away with shit because he was little. One time at a bar, he got in my face threatening to get his “friends” in Savannah to put a hit on me. He also threatened to get his pistol and shoot me. I told him I could drop his ass if I wanted to but I decided to leave the situation and go home (be the bigger man). He apologized. Next time we’re partying, the same guy gets drunk and starts getting physical with people including me. He grabs my leg while I’m sitting on the couch and pulls me off and I fall on my ass. I get up and get in his face and he says “sorry man” and shakes my hand. A few weeks later, same situation, he comes over and grabs my ankle and twist it while I’m sitting on the couch. I have weak ankles and he actually sprained it. I stood up and started yelling at him and he gets in my face. I push him down and he gets up and gets back in my face, I push him again and he does the same thing. Then I can’t hold back anymore and I punch him a couple of times, and after he cries uncle, I left the house. We never spoke again.

Why would it not be right to treat a woman the same way?

Another event that happened to me. As a teenager we used to party in the woods. My best friend was dating one of my sister’s friends. They broke up and that night, my sister comes out to the woods and walks up to my best friend and sucker punches him in the eye with a ring on. She broke the skin and blood was running down his face. (I taught my sister how to punch btw). She was saying “that’s for hurting my friend!” (hurting her friend’s feelings that is). He was getting pissed and I had to jump in to calm him down telling him that it was my sister and to not do anything.

Anyways, my sister is fucking crazy. I love her very much but ya know what, my friend had the right to defend himself. She punched him so hard he had blood running down his face and could have put his eye out if her ring had hit 1/2 inch lower. If it wasn’t my sister and it was just some crazy bitch punching my best friend in the face I would only feel that it was his right to defend himself from further harm. Since then, my sister has been in multiple fights with other girls and has got her ass beat once so now she isn’t so fast to start fights with people.

Sorry for the long post.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Part of me wants to grow up in whatever fantasy land allowed that…
[/quote]

No, no you don’t. As I mentioned before, I work in youth athletics and part of it is professionally (generally with upper-class kids whose parents can afford to send them for private training) and part of it is volunteering at a church and a boxing gym in an area that isn’t so great.

The funny thing is that the kids on the opposite ends of the spectrum often have a lot in common. Both really have no regard for money, either because they have more than they know what to do with or because they never really had any to care about. Both groups of kids have absentee parents, either due to workaholic parents or divorce for the rich kids or because dad’s in prison for the poor kids. What you wind up is that both groups of kids grow up doing whatever the hell they want because parents aren’t around to guide them and they either develop a huge sense of entitlement (rich) or chip on the shoulder (poor) so nobody can tell them anything.

The happiest kids are simply the ones with stable parents and enough money that the parents aren’t stressed 24/7 over making ends meet. Everything else is kind of irrelevant.

In an attempt to tie this back to the original thread, there is one boy about 9 or 10 at the boxing gym that always picks a fight with a girl about his age (probably because he likes her) and she always beats his ass. It is like clockwork every day. Moral of the story: girls can have wicked left hooks too.

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I agree with professor X…you have to know what youre getting into. Most times in cases like that, it is a couples argument and probably not the first time it happened and wont be the last. Sometimes it is a random man beating a random woman…as in this case:Cracker Barrel Attack: Tasha Hill Beaten In Front Of Daughter, Called Racial Slurs (VIDEO) | HuffPost Latest News

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I was on a date a long time back and the girl showed up with jacked up knuckles on both hands like she had been punching a cactus. She didn’t even mention it, like it wasn’t worth mentioning. I didn’t ask and since we didn’t really hit it off i never learned the story behind it.

Weird date!

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From the little I’ve gleamed from this thread (as I haven’t read the whole thing) I believe the main question is if one sees a women being physically abused should they intervene. This I take it is in a completely random situation where the attacker and victim are unknown to us (the passerby) and what if anything should be done.

I also see where this thread has morphed into another debate on whether women deserve to be hit or physically abused by bringing it onto themselves. and I am for the most part not addressing that portion of this thread.

In a hypothetical situation where I for instance was walking out of a store and observed in the parking lot a man physically and violently assaulting a women, a child, an elderly person, or a smaller and weaker man, I would feel compelled to intervene to stop the assault. This would be either by physically stopping it or if worried about my safety due to the attackers level of craziness/size or possibility of having a weapon at minimum I would contact the authorities to intervene.

I wouldn’t sit there rationalizing what the victim may have done to warrant such an attack. Maybe it was a women with a sharp mouth who ‘slapped’ her larger boyfriend, and initiated the BS, but in that scenario my opinion is the male can make a decision not to be with her any longer versus deciding to beat her senseless in a parking lot. I cannot walk by and watch someone who is defenseless being beaten on.

Now if two adult men equally sized and deciding to square off and throw fists I wouldn’t feel so inclined to intervene.

D

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I’ve seen videos online of men getting beat up by women. Usually its like a 200+ lb woman and a little 120 lb man.

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[quote]elano wrote:
I’ve seen videos online of men getting beat up by women. Usually its like a 200+ lb woman and a little 120 lb man.[/quote]

Well Elano, let’s just say if we see a larger, stronger, excessively violent, person, animal, man, women, grizzer bear, putting the beat down on a smaller weaker defenseless person, we should somehow try to stop it for the sake of our humanity.

D

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[quote]Dedicated wrote:
elano wrote:
I’ve seen videos online of men getting beat up by women. Usually its like a 200+ lb woman and a little 120 lb man.

Well Elano, let’s just say if we see a larger, stronger, excessively violent, person, animal, man, women, grizzer bear, putting the beat down on a smaller weaker defenseless person, we should somehow try to stop it for the sake of our humanity.

D[/quote]

Fair enough. :slight_smile:

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[quote]Dedicated wrote:
elano wrote:
I’ve seen videos online of men getting beat up by women. Usually its like a 200+ lb woman and a little 120 lb man.

Well Elano, let’s just say if we see a larger, stronger, excessively violent, person, animal, man, women, grizzer bear, putting the beat down on a smaller weaker defenseless person, we should somehow try to stop it for the sake of our humanity.

D[/quote]
But that could mean that you gasp actually end up HITTING a woman! That’s Blasphemy!
/sarcasm