[quote]lawsonsamuels wrote:
[quote]Kerley wrote:
[quote]lawsonsamuels wrote:
quit stating what is logical, reasonable and obvious Kerley, and get to bashing the OP.[/quote]
Aww shit…
op is jelly, and should STFU and listen to dave tate when he speaks.[/quote]
jelly? allright, never heard that one.
everyone should listen to Dave Tate when he speaks. Except Chuck Norris.[/quote]
jelly=jealous
Who do I talk to about getting an entire forum dedicated to Euro training? We could even toss crossfit in there.
[quote]Kerley wrote:
[quote]lawsonsamuels wrote:
[quote]Kerley wrote:
[quote]lawsonsamuels wrote:
quit stating what is logical, reasonable and obvious Kerley, and get to bashing the OP.[/quote]
Aww shit…
op is jelly, and should STFU and listen to dave tate when he speaks.[/quote]
jelly? allright, never heard that one.
everyone should listen to Dave Tate when he speaks. Except Chuck Norris.[/quote]
jelly=jealous[/quote]
aaaaaah…cultural leason for the day, much appreciated.
[quote]Kerley wrote:
isnt it more he learned from his mistakes and can now tell people to not do what he did, in regards to injury prevention.[/quote]
You could argue that he’s not a great learner if he kept hurting himself over and over again. Then again, I’ve reaggravated by back over and over again for the past 5 years so I guess I’m slow too.
It’s hard to know who to listen to in general.
I know a very strong guy who deadlifts off a 6 inch box (with a very rounded back) and benches guillotine (sp?) style for years. He hasn’t hurt his back and only recently tore his pec, which he fully recovered from in only a couple months. Should we all train like this guy?
Ideally you’d find someone who is genetic crap (an injury-prone, weak person) that got extremely strong with little or no injuries, and emulate him. Good luck figuring out who that is.
[quote]lavi wrote:
[quote]Kerley wrote:
isnt it more he learned from his mistakes and can now tell people to not do what he did, in regards to injury prevention.[/quote]
You could argue that he’s not a great learner if he kept hurting himself over and over again. Then again, I’ve reaggravated by back over and over again for the past 5 years so I guess I’m slow too.
It’s hard to know who to listen to in general.
I know a very strong guy who deadlifts off a 6 inch box (with a very rounded back) and benches guillotine (sp?) style for years. He hasn’t hurt his back and only recently tore his pec, which he fully recovered from in only a couple months. Should we all train like this guy?
Ideally you’d find someone who is genetic crap (an injury-prone, weak person) that got extremely strong with little or no injuries, and emulate him. Good luck figuring out who that is.[/quote]
Dude,
Maybe you haven’t been paying attention but I’ve just hijacked this thread.
The fault lies in “listening” to specific people rather than judging ideas on their own merit. The single biggest problem in the training world is that most people are solely concerned with “WHO” says something rather than “WHAT” is being said.
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
[quote]lavi wrote:
[quote]Kerley wrote:
isnt it more he learned from his mistakes and can now tell people to not do what he did, in regards to injury prevention.[/quote]
You could argue that he’s not a great learner if he kept hurting himself over and over again. Then again, I’ve reaggravated by back over and over again for the past 5 years so I guess I’m slow too.
It’s hard to know who to listen to in general.
I know a very strong guy who deadlifts off a 6 inch box (with a very rounded back) and benches guillotine (sp?) style for years. He hasn’t hurt his back and only recently tore his pec, which he fully recovered from in only a couple months. Should we all train like this guy?
Ideally you’d find someone who is genetic crap (an injury-prone, weak person) that got extremely strong with little or no injuries, and emulate him. Good luck figuring out who that is.[/quote]
Dude,
Maybe you haven’t been paying attention but I’ve just hijacked this thread.
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Sorry.
Also,
Cheers.
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
nice[/quote]
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[quote]Kerley wrote:
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
nice[/quote]
fap fap fap[/quote]
x2
tru
[quote]cdubs wrote:
I just watched the 35 rep squat video, kinda strange how it went from just a day in the gym with a bunch of elite lifters to a dramatic voice over telling us about how sad DT’s life is or was.
Anyways, while DT was squatting they talked about Dave’s laundry list of injuries, I think they said he has had 30 pec pulls and about 10 more serious injuries in addition to having to have surgery on both shoulders multiple times ( and the narrator said that what was mentioned in the video was only a partial listing of his injuries).
My question is this: why is Dave Tate such a widely known and respected strength lifting coach if he can’t take care of himself? If I were to follow everything he says word for word, wouldn’t that lead me down the same path of destruction he has led himself down? Keeping in mind that average Joe doesn’t have the connections or the resources to get the very best rehab available like Dave does, wouldn’t following him set you on a path that would lead to injuries that would mean the end of your weightlifting?
There are hundreds of people in America and around the globe who have put up better numbers without harming themselves as much, I think its time we found a new brain to pick. [/quote]
You should do that then.
Find a trainer with competitive and assloads of hands on experience equivalent to Tates and ask him to drop by and dole some out for us.
Or better still, go get it yourself, then share it with us.
why dont you ask tate on efs and see what he says?
Hey, I really hope your question is based off of all the artcles he has written and not a clip from a video that just starts with him then ends with a tidbit on his life while he does saftey box squats.
Please don’t judge a man from a VoiceOver in a clip. Like I choose not to judge you from your question.
Tate can defend his own methods which like most of us has changed and grown thru out his competative & non competative life.
Oh and if you want a guru and I hope you don’t research and find one that fits your needs. A better path is to Lift, read, listen to those that have already done what you are trying to do then adapt. And you will see that as you lift you will do the above more than once and hopefully pass on what you know.
Just like Mr. Tate
Hey Op,
There is a trainer named Celtics on this forum. Look him up. His program is designed to help you avoid injury and grow serious Mass. Now I know at first you won’t want to believe me becuase of my previous posts in this thread. But would I lie to you?
Some guys Dave is currently training:
http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/iron-brothers/first-place-and-a-huge-pr/
http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/powerlifting-articles/340-pound-full-meet-pr/
-Both advanced lifters one guy adding 60 pounds to his bench the other THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY POUNDS to his total. Dave obviously doesn’t know shit.
