[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
As has been stated numerous times, bad/no progress is a personality thing.
Lack of drive and focus (nothing to do with time, set backs, budget etc).
Secondly, it’s genetics. That’s not an excuse, it’s a fact.
Example: Someone who started off proper skinny (and by skinny, I mean to the point of being able to see your heart beat! true in my case believe it or not, e.g. 130 something pounds at 6 feet tall…and that ‘before’ picture on my hub was AFTER lifting lol) and needs 5000-6000 cals a day just to be able to gain a little is going to struggle to stand out…at least for a very long time. It takes time just to look average in clothes for these people.
If you have a metabolism that’s so fast that you can lose weight on 4000 cals a day, there’s no way that compares to the progress someone made when they just had to eat “normaly” to gain their first 30+lbs. I hear people moaning about having to eat 4000 cals a day to gain, well I have to eat that to maintain my weight LOL.
Once again, it’s not an excuse, simply a set back that needs to be over-come and delays “standing out” for some time.[/quote]
Dude, if I posted a picture of me in junior high, you would think I was joking. I was that skinny. I got to high school weighing 90lbs and was only 150 by the time I graduated…and I worked UP to that by using some lame dumbbells at home and doing push ups.
I agree that genetics play a large part…but those of you still believing that any big guy you see was born that way need to stop. Some of the most stand out players in bodybuilding started out as skinny guys with super fast metabolisms. It took eating in excess of 6,000cals a day many times for me to progress in weight. That is simply what you do if you want it bad enough. That part has shit to do with genetics because a bodybuilder would WANT a fast metabolism. It means they can get away with eating things others can’t.[/quote]
I’m talking about almost being ‘emaciated’, not just skinny. It’s extremely rare to see people who’re like that naturally make gains to the point of standing out amongst big guys (without chemical assistance/considerable body fat). Some people just aren’t cut out to be huge.
It’s hard to know what your perception of skinny is and how “skinny” you actually were…and whether that was just teen years you’re referring to. In another thread, to prove a point (about not looking like he trained hard), you said that you looked like the OP (~180lbs) before you started lifting in your early 20’s.
Of course you weren’t big all the time, no-one said you were. But it didn’t take you two years just to look “normal” in cloths.
When you ate upwards of 6000 cals a day, that got you to over 250lbs right? Actually, if I remember right you’ve weighed as high as 280lbs? Where did 6000 cals get me? Not far past 200lbs. What am I going to have to eat to get up to 250lbs+ - , 8000 cals/day? Which person is going to reach their weight goals the fastest?
There’s no excuse for pathetic progress (which abounds), just saying that person A will stand out really well and get complements compared to person B…depending on genetics, not just effort per ce. Although, this is the EXCEPTION not the rule. Nobody looks huge without determination. And even the worst of genetics can do considerably better than present.
Please do, we could do with a laugh 