@ Steely: I eat b/w 3,200 and 3,700 cals everyday, and when I tell people that they’re shocked. I don’t get it though, b/c even at that level, I’m still constantly hungry…I guess the more you eat the hungrier you are lol
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
That’s what happens when you’re a professional athlete and have access to the best surgeons, best physical therapists, best training facilities and staffs.[/quote]
That’s why I waited over 3 months to find a surgeon who works on pro athletes. I got the surgeon part right. It’s the other stuff that makes a huge difference. I was never aware of the drug aspect of it. That’s interesting.[/quote]
Well Im clearly just speculating. I mean obviously SOME pro athletes use drugs to recover, but theres no way I KNMOW that Perkins did. But I also believe that ALL pro athletes are using GH or peptides, so yeah
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]CrushKillDestroy wrote:
I didn’t read the whole 6 pages.
You’re stroking your own ego by pointing out how badly other people are doing with a question. That’s called ‘tacitly’ implying they’re not doing as well. Its clear you’re big, accomplished and knowledgable - therefore the question is clearly even more a put-on.
You know the answer mate, it’s pretty friggin simple - being big for most people takes consistency and hard work, and most people aren’t prepared to put that in.
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Bullshit. We just had a whole thread in Get A Life about colleges and the trend showing many more students than ever before are taking classes later in the day and lessening their overall class load. According to your own logic just displayed, any one of us who questioned why that is, is simply stroking our egos for asking.
Yes, this is a bodybuilding forum, as displayed by the words “bodybuilding” above that button when you hit it. How odd is the question of why so few actually have that as a goal if they post here?
You see, that is what this forum is supposed to be about…not a bunch of guys getting butt hurt because someone actually asked why their achievement in this pursuit is so limited.
This thread has been read over 4,000 times in less than one day all because I asked that question…so now the question is, why is so much emotion tied up and why are so many so defensive (enough to attract people who NEVER POST HERE) the moment someone questions where the muscle is?
Some of you spend thousands on supplements, spends several days a week in the gym…to NOT stand out?
Really?
Dude, to you and anyone else, I do not care if you think I am arrogant, if you think I have the biggest ego ever or any of that. My goal is to see more and more people make progress. That has been my goal since day one because being around people who strive for more causes everyone to do better.
However, clearly some of you don’t want this…and prefer to turn every single post I ever make into some opportunity to put me in my place.
Guess what, my place is just fine…and you don’t have the ability to put me in it.[/quote]
Bahaha that’s classic mate! You’ve got an answer for everything eh? Even the things I didn’t say or mean!
Why are you here? You don’t seem to enjoy it.
You know why I posted and answered your question? Because you asked an inflamatory trolling QUESTION.
You’re stroking your ego because if you don’t already know the answer then you’re clearly an idiot. Now I know you’re not in fact an idiot, so… logical conclusion? If your goal was to inspire people and see them progress then you’ve failed epically.
Stop twisting EVERY SINGLE person’s words that you don’t agree with to make them appear the stupid, wrong or arrogant ones.
Oh, and I have one thousand times less posts than you because i’m busy out having a life and pushing my training, rather than berating people for being normal stupid humans.
[quote]adamson091654 wrote:
I can not figure out how to start a post so I wanted some advice. I will start cancer treatment (33 radiation and 3 separate chemos) for neck cancer on 2/2. I have been powerlifting/bodybuilding for forty years (56 years old.) I wanted everyone’s advice on working-out during the treatments and the nutrition that will be liquid through the mouth or through a feeding tube. I will try a 3x5 2to 3 days a week and if I can not lift much I may do the century (100 reps) workout for light weight. Please advise…[/quote]
Sir, your will is inspiring. Beat this thing and recover quickly. All the best.
[quote]Zillah wrote:
[quote]CrushKillDestroy wrote:
I didn’t read the whole 6 pages.
You’re stroking your own ego by pointing out how badly other people are doing with a question. That’s called ‘tacitly’ implying they’re not doing as well. Its clear you’re big, accomplished and knowledgable - therefore the question is clearly even more a put-on.
You know the answer mate, it’s pretty friggin simple - being big for most people takes consistency and hard work, and most people aren’t prepared to put that in.
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Not so much related to the post but more your avatar and username. You strike me as somewhat serial killer like.
edit - please don’t kill me. I’m sorry.[/quote]
Thank you, I think?
Excuse me though, i have to keep working on my suit of human skin.
[quote]Im_New_Feed_Me wrote:
I know that doesn’t have too much to do with bb’ing, but my guess is that you will rarely see a big fucking guy that doesn’t excel in most everything else in his/her life. If you want to be the best, you want to be the fucking best are more than just ‘picking things up and putting them down’ as PF says.
My opinion, whatever it is worth. [/quote]
This point is very good. I think it’s very true and plausible to see people excel in one, more or many facets of their life. This is what I call inspiring people (people who inspire). I take success and being successful seriously, so I always reflect and look for “clues” as to how I became successful or achieved a task or goal successfully in the past and apply that to another area of my life.
So for example in R/L I have found I operate best with 1 to 3 goals at any one time, that I hate to multi-task, that I succeed faster when I tell other people of my goal, that I tend to be extreme and obsessive and only when I balance this out do I achieve and feel contented in achieving my goal. So the crossover to BB is, set clear goals, don’t do everything (recomp, muscle building, strength) in the same period, inform the people I respect what I’m doing (being accountable), pace myself (move forward but don’t do something stupid that would push me back days or weeks).
We talk a lot about doing what works for YOU, knowing YOU starts this process - do, reflect, refine.
I have only been lifting seriously for about 2 years. I have made a ton of progress, I look completely different than I did 7 months ago, I look completely different than 2 years ago, my performance in the gym is night and day from when I started.
I had a decent sized guy I had seen around but never talked to stop me at the gym the other day just to tell me that him and some of the other guys had been talking about me and the fact that I clearly bust my ass and have made a lot of progress. I have built a physique that my friends all take notice of, people in my classes all take notice of, and people at the gym notice.
That being said I know in my eyes I am not shit. Compared to other posters on this site I am somewhere in the middle, better than the majority who barely try, but worse than those who have either great genetics or have been doing this for a lot longer.
I don’t have pictures of me plastered all over the site because I haven’t built a physique I am ready to show off to the world… yet. I don’t want to be that guy who posts a bunch of advice but doesn’t have a fantastic physique/impressive numbers to back it up. The only reason I have 1000+ posts is because I have consistently kept a training log that accounts for about half of those posts.
I am constantly figuring out new ways to move forward, always recommitting myself to push even harder, always hitting the gym with consistency and intensity. I have been doing this for 2 years and have gotten exceedingly more efficient at it, 2 years from now I will be way bigger and stronger than I am now and be even more knowledgeable.
Really the point of this post is to say that I am trying, I am trying damn hard and it is working. I am just not far along enough for what I have to say to matter yet, but I am working on that and it is only a matter of time.
Don’t know if the whole injury thing got resolved, but I think this is relevant
I have no excuses. i went from 140 to 225 and currently weigh around 210lbs. i want to get bigger but RIGHT NOW I AM NOT EATING ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THE GROWTH I WANT. i feel good refining and becoming better at movements and my strength hasn’t diminished, it’s increased slowly over time.
i don’t eat enough food to get to the CRAZY size i want. i will eat more soon.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/01/26/iowa-players-hospitalized.ap/index.html
I don’t wanna catch this shit, which seems to be spreading. Pestilence and plague everyone
Interesting thread, Prof X.
I feel that many people don’t reach their “potential” in MANY areas, not just bodybuilding. But seeing how this is a “bodybuilding forum”, and I don’t want my first post here to get flamed all to hell, I’ll keep it to that context.
Motivation is different for everyone. Those that are successful are the ones that figure out how to stay consistent. Whether that is through accountability, habit, hiring a trainer, getting a workout partner, getting RID of a workout partner, etc… will be different for everyone. Those that are successful have done enough introspection (or are just naturally motivated to get huge for various reasons) to figure out what makes them “tick” and apply it.
My personal journey with the iron began not with bodybuilding, but with sports (rugby). I got some pretty respectable numbers and to ALMOST 250 body weight while being in excellent cardiovascular shape (I did 3 cycles of AAS). My motivation was to be a starter on my team, and it worked. I was in that shape for two years (age 27 - 29). Then I got hurt. Two knee surgeries and a severe shoulder injury (torn pec, torn rotator cuff, two screws and inch of bone off my clavicle) in 18 months.
To say I was depressed would be an understatement. It was about that time that I switched careers and took the same drive and dedication and put it into business. In the following six years I got divorced, had a kid, went through the recession (just like everyone else), started a bunch of businesses, blah blah blah… My MOTIVATION and PRIORITIES were elsewhere.
And I had a pretty good base - I lost weight, but I also cut back my eating, so I didn’t get fat… I still “LOOKED” good, so I wasn’t a priority. My shoulder injury kept me from getting a good bar position for squats and I was afraid to go heavy on bench, so I “half assed” it for a long time using my injury and the fact that “I’ll NEVER get back to where I was” as an excuse, while I focused on other things.
Then I snapped out of it. I don’t know why, I guess I just got tired of being “small”. Or perhaps something my oldest kid said about how I “used to be big”. Whatever it was, six months ago, I went to an ART practitioner who worked on my shoulder (and an old hip injury), started doing the “neanderthal no more” program to get back into “lifting shape” (I’m almost 37) and then went on to Starting Strength, which I am making steady progress on. I started eating better (read: moar) and am doing a HALF GOMAD, and have gone from ~200 to 231 as of this morning in six months.
The only difference was my motivation and making lifting a priority again. Now that I don’t have rugby to motivate me anymore, I struggled a bit at first, but figured out how to stay consistent (I make an appointment with “myself” in my calendar to work out, cook and order supplements). I also have a buddy who calls me every week and if I don’t have my three workouts in, I have to write him a check for $500. THAT motivates me!
I’m still not sure which way I want to go with my training (Powerlifting or Bodybuilding), but I finally realized that I don’t need a “reason” to do it. The satisfaction of having a “mini-victory” with myself every time I beat the log book, and tapping that physical aggressive part of me that I haven’t seriously tapped in years has become almost addictive. In other words, I “had it”, “lost it” and “found it” again. So that’s my perspective.
Even if your schedule doesn’t allow for some of you to go to the gym often there is no reason why you shouldn’t go with 100% intensity
[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
The way I see it, it’s simple. It’s hard to make real progress, very hard. Those who simply don’t have enough will power or dedication simply don’t cut it and just hit a plateau and stay there for pretty much their life.
I’m not putting anyone down who doesn’t desire to make progress nor am I talking about that. What I am talking about are those who want to progress and voice it, but when it comes time to put in the real work don’t because it’s a lot of work. Not everyone is cut out for success in bodybuilding or any strength sport, they’re very tough both physically and psychologically because they require you to do more than just show up.
The people who irritate me the most are the very one’s I speak of. Those who complain that their lifts aren’t going up, or they’re too fat, or they aren’t big enough, but simply don’t put in the work necessary to get there when it comes time to do so. I would say that a large majority might fall into this category.
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IMO, those who complain about their problems or difficulties rarely proceed to solve them. The guys who achieve some level of success in whatever they do always seem to be the ones keeping quiet and grind whenever they hit a road block. And I dun mean it only in terms of getting huge but in all things as well (as u can see, I anint big or maybe even small by some others standard)
[quote]123watson wrote:
I was watching a video of a bodybuilder who said there should be anger that you can call on, or a place you go when the weights get heavy.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Good post…and I was waiting for someone to put the words like this.
That bodybuilder you watched is right…but that doesn’t just apply to bodybuilding. It applies to everything in life. If your plan is stand out, you have to have that “fire”, that ferocity, that anger, or whatever to call on to push you through. if you don’t have it, I doubt you will last long at this to make much progress at all.
That doesn’t mean walk around pissed off all of the time, but there has to be something pushing you, something you need to prove in order to make progress at points where most others would quit.
That’s the difference between the ones who actually do this long term and those who make no progress for years on end.[/quote]
For anyone who lost track, this was the main point
Note that “everything in life” part too
[quote]123watson wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]behexen wrote:
I’m shocked by how many people don’t really care to push harder. The other day a 39 year old woman i work with was telling me how she is just content in keeping her figure how it was when she was younger. Not that she isn’t attractive as she is but I was surprised that she didn’t want to be “better” than before but only strived to look the same.
Another guy I work with was telling me how he doesn’t understand why I want to get big. That at 5’11 200lbs, i’m big enough and more impressive than the average guy. I couldn’t believe it, i asked him why he thought i’d bust my ass every night to just be average.
I’ve only been lifting for 2 years and although i’m no where near where you are X, i’ve made progress and would like to think i’m on my way. I respect all the hard work you’ve put in over the years and am glad that your willing to share your experiences with the rest of us.[/quote]
How old are you?
Ever stop to think and realize that some people attend a gym to simply stay in shape and don’t see that getting huge or in SUPERB (not average) shape provides them with little return on their investment. Examples: Their everyday needs and quality of life and deesires in life aren’t fulfilled by their strength and size (eg, attraction to opposite sex, relationships, income, social life, eTherefore, they put their energy and “hard pushing” elsewhere in life and the ones who really do give a shit about this (such as yourself) reserve high amounts of effort and time management for the gym. You and us here aren’t special because we attend a fucking gym and build muscle.
I myself made very good gains for many years and am now smaller and weaker simply because my desires in fitness, health, and LIFE changed. And yeah, this involves maintaining my physique and puttign effort into others areas of fitness and my life.
I just read an interview today in the Wall Street Journal with the CEO of advertising and PR giant WPP. This guy doesn’t have weekends! His life is split between NYC and London, UK offices and sometimes his Friday nights are spent on a fucking plane, away from his family and kids! He was asked about exercise and diet. His main concerns: not getting fat and keeping healthy. He has three squares a day and a measly three hours of exercise per week that he manages to fit in a killer schedule and while managing one of the biggest advertising and PR companies in the WORLD! So his interest doesn’t lie in getting physically better and better.
Most people don’t earn a living by getting bigger and bigger, and they don’t attract friends, build a family, or get laid from getting bigger and bigger.
There are hot shot lawyers, financiers, ad execs, and doctors who put in sixteen hour days while havign a wife and kids. They might not understand why you can’t or aren’t willing to put in the work to get richer and richer, just like they don’t understand why you’re trying to get bigger and bigger.
If it’s important to you, then it’s important! But don’t act like some pompous ass because you buy a 50 buck gym membership and step in a gym. [/quote]
I think it comes down to what your priorities are in life. It is a very subjective topic, I realize this is a bodybuilding forum, but to each their own.[/quote]
I think what brick is trying to say is that being a bodybuilder or being “hardcore” about certain thing really doesnt make less of other people who dun share ur mentality. Some of the more prominent members in the bodybuilding forum also do not talk shit abt ppl who dun bodybuild, they just dun talk about non bodybuilding stuff or ppl, period! There is a difference here.
[quote]florelius wrote:
I am the archetype of the guy in the gym who doesnt get huge regardless of many years in there LOL.
My username here should probably be “skinnyfat guy at 135pounds”. So I will try to answer your question.
point 1: perception.
Average skinnyfat people like me think 180pounds lean is looking like you work out and its probably
our ideal body. We dont think of bodybuilding as a sport, but more as a form of strenght training that have
purpose of adding muscle. in short training for more muscle, but not training for haveing a body like a
pro bodybuilder.
point2: eating.
people like me will never get huge, because we dont have the disiplin to eat the amount that are necessary
to be huge. This is probably reason nr.1 that most people dont get huge.
point3: training.
I like to train, but put study`s, work etc first, therefor I dont train more than maximum 3 times pr week.
therefor I will never get huge.
This is probably why I will never get huge by your standard and I am ok with that. My goals are also
reflecting this, therefor my goals are to break rep pr on the big lifts etc not to acomplish what you have.
I know that what I am doing is not bodybuilding so I try to post as little as possible on this sub-forum.
But I felt this tread concerned guys like me.
If someone would like proof that I am a skinny weak guy, I have some pics in my hub LOL.
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I share ur sentiments excatly
[quote]jak3_dude wrote:
Don’t know if the whole injury thing got resolved, but I think this is relevant[/quote]
This video is seriously inspirational
[quote]jak3_dude wrote:
Don’t know if the whole injury thing got resolved, but I think this is relevant[/quote]
Holy shit, that vid gave me the goosebumps and made my eyes water. Fucking AWESOME!!!
No excuses, man! No excuses!
Thanks for posting Jak. Made my day!
One of the best points made in this thread.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
X is practically trolling you guys. He’s stated numerous times over the years that he knows why he gets the reactions he gets and chooses his words specifically to get those reactions. I respect the guy, but this “why am I the only one to get these reactions” crap is just another ploy to have us all talking about him and it’s working.
:)[/quote]
He’s more of an ogre than a troll.
PX, stop ogreing the damn thread.