[quote]Vnation wrote:
deadlifts train more athletic movements activating the core with the legs wheras good mornings are a more isolated movement, additionally, deadlifts stimualte your body to release testosterone helping your entire routine[/quote]
This is a pretty concise answer to the OP’s question. It should probably end here. haha
[quote]mr popular wrote:
Vnation wrote:
deadlifts train more athletic movements activating the core with the legs wheras good mornings are a more isolated movement, additionally, deadlifts stimualte your body to release testosterone helping your entire routine
This is a pretty concise answer to the OP’s question. It should probably end here. haha[/quote]
Yeah you would say that because you know you’re wrong. God maybe you should TRY deadlifting before you knock it.
I would like to see the great backs deadlifting has produced for you guys though.
And to whoever it was that said baseball players don’t NEED to bench…nobody NEEDS to deadlift. But most baseball players DO bench and most regular gym goers DO deadlift.
But that doesn’t mean everyone does or should.
lol
go stand in the corner
[quote]eeu743 wrote:
But most baseball players DO bench
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I gotta agree with Eric Cressey that baseball pitchers might be better off doing floor presses or pressing with a neutral grip because of all the trauma their shoulder is subjected to. Maybe swimmers as well.
[quote]eeu743 wrote:
I would like to see the great backs deadlifting has produced for you guys though.
And to whoever it was that said baseball players don’t NEED to bench…nobody NEEDS to deadlift. But most baseball players DO bench and most regular gym goers DO deadlift.
But that doesn’t mean everyone does or should.
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What regular gyms are you going to? There are three people in my current gym who deadlift.
I would be more interested in seeing the huge amounts of people who have built great backs without heavy pulling. You wont find someone who has been deadlifting for years who doesnt have some degree of impressive back musculature, however, you will find scores and scores of guys who have been training for years and basing their back training around cable rows, etc. who could fall through a crack in the floor faster than Kate Moss.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
eeu743 wrote:
I would like to see the great backs deadlifting has produced for you guys though.
And to whoever it was that said baseball players don’t NEED to bench…nobody NEEDS to deadlift. But most baseball players DO bench and most regular gym goers DO deadlift.
But that doesn’t mean everyone does or should.
What regular gyms are you going to? There are three people in my current gym who deadlift.
I would be more interested in seeing the huge amounts of people who have built great backs without heavy pulling. You wont find someone who has been deadlifting for years who doesnt have some degree of impressive back musculature, however, you will find scores and scores of guys who have been training for years and basing their back training around cable rows, etc. who could fall through a crack in the floor faster than Kate Moss.[/quote]
Three deadlifters? Damn, I need to switch gyms, just me and another guy over here…
I have a technical question regarding deadlifts.
This morning was my second time doing them (another PR too) and I noticed that on the way down, I banged up my kneecaps pretty bad. On the way up, I did the same to my shins. Of course, a few scratches did not stop me from training intensely, but I was more concerned about an error in my form that was causing it to happen. The guy I was training with said my form looked good, he has been doing deadlifts for awhile so I thought nothing of it. Thanks in advance.
Also, I do not have back pain or any other “gotchas” that come from bad form. I am tired as hell and thus assuming I did it right, for the most part.
Sore. You’re SORE Njrusmc, not tired. Tired comes from not eating enough and/or about to going to the bedtime.
Your form is probably fine. Sometimes the bar just hits yours shins. Se la vi.
Thanks, I will keep that in mind. I figure as I continue to do the exercise I will become more proficient. Even as my second time deadlifting, I lifted much more weight and more comfortably. I have been eating like a fiend and my strength gains are showing … can’t complain!
Also, my feet are about shoulder width apart and I grab the bar wider than my knees (traditional stance). The guy I trained with had a wider stance with his grip a little closer, inside the knees. What is the difference between the two in terms of mechanics and muscle workload?
[quote]Otep wrote:
Because deadlifts are superior to good mornings- everyone knows that!
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Obviously not EVERYONE!
[quote]mr popular wrote:
The deadlift crusaders on this site are hopeless. haha
::edit::
Let me put it this way. Name one sport where one couldn’t benefit from Bench Pressing.
Does this mean everyone needs to be bench pressing?
For some people the deadlift just doesn’t do as good a job as other exercises would.[/quote]
Darts!
Snooker!
Pool!
Billiards!
Olymipc lifting? I have a feeling that most OLers avoid the Bench so that they don’t compromise their shoulders’ flexibility.
[quote]Otep wrote:
Maybe even 2 if you’re in the beginner’s forum.
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4=2each side?
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Youve got two identical twin brothers.[/quote]
No I haven’t (at least not that I know of)
[quote]Otep wrote:
Sore. You’re SORE Njrusmc, not tired. Tired comes from not eating enough and/or about to going to the bedtime.
Your form is probably fine. Sometimes the bar just hits yours shins. Se la vi.[/quote]
It’s “C’est la vie”.
Nobody deadlifts at my gym. i am probably the first one ever. the gym is new. i know the high school football players at the high school where i work deadlift, they are good so i thought i should follow their example.
I made this thread since i did good mornings one time. i was going to do my first deadlift but there was a personal trainer there and took the only squat bar and turned it into a giant ab wheel.
So i forgot but when i got home i did good mornings while holding a big guitar amp to my chest i thought it felt great since i got a great stretch in my hamstrings which deadlifts do not give.
I do deadlifts now instead though since regular good mornings feel dangerous, and i was using a smith machine too. i never thought to deadlift until recently because i thought all my chin ups were taking care of my back
At home: how can you deadlifts?
I only have a bendpress with pullup bar.
Thanks
ACE74
Uhh I assume you mean BenchPress, in which case, you use the bar.
[quote]ACE74 wrote:
At home: how can you deadlifts?[/quote]
Step 1: Place barbell on the ground.
Step 2: Add 45’s.
Step 3: Deadlift.
Step 4: Repeat steps 2 and 3 as necessary.
[quote]njrusmc wrote:
I have a technical question regarding deadlifts.
This morning was my second time doing them (another PR too) and I noticed that on the way down, I banged up my kneecaps pretty bad. On the way up, I did the same to my shins. Of course, a few scratches did not stop me from training intensely, but I was more concerned about an error in my form that was causing it to happen. The guy I was training with said my form looked good, he has been doing deadlifts for awhile so I thought nothing of it. Thanks in advance.
Also, I do not have back pain or any other “gotchas” that come from bad form. I am tired as hell and thus assuming I did it right, for the most part.[/quote]
When you put down the weights, stick your butt out to lower the bar at least until it gets past your kneecaps, then squat down the rest of the way if you want. use the hips to lower the bar to the floor instead of knees. you should be putting the weight down in the reverse way that you picked it up. Scraping the shins is normal and most ppl take a few hairs on deadlift day
[quote]colonelquack wrote:
ACE74 wrote:
At home: how can you deadlifts?
Step 1: Place barbell on the ground.
Step 2: Add 45’s.
Step 3: Deadlift.
Step 4: Repeat steps 2 and 3 as necessary.
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lol nice instructions
I saw a video that showed me the technique, both wrong and right. I noticed that the right way involved much more hip flexion, it almost looked like a RDL than a traditional DL. I bent my knees more or less parallel which probably contributed to my knee-hitting. I suppose I will use more hip action next time. Thanks.