Why Can't I Gain Muscle?

[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
Professor X wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
why are you coming across as a total asshole? what exactly is it that i have done so wrong?

First, you claim “nothing but fat gain” which implies you were eating too much and needed to scale it back to where you were still gaining but with less fat. You claim drug use when it clear you don’t even understand how your own body works. Perhaps you were expecting gains too quickly and when that didn’t happen, you increased your calories too much. How much do you weigh now? How old are?

Let me ask that again so you don’t miss it.

HOW OLD ARE YOU AND HOW MUCH DO YOU WEIGH NOW?

I saw a thread about not being able to gain muscle so I thought Id ask a few questions… I thought maybe there might be a doc about this place that might be able to give me his thoughts?

Dude, you asked questions and then claimed you were doing everything right. If you are doing everything right, then what is there to ask about? Clearly there is nothing we can tell you…because you are training perfectly.

I suffer from bigorexia and have been treated for it, but I found the treatment and the psychologist pretty poor. he hadnt even heard of ‘bigorexia’ or ‘muscle dysmorphia’ - he just shoved me infront of a mirror and said “you arent skinny” - like that’s guna help.

You definitely have problems then, and it isn’t “medical” aside from mental. Someone like you is at risk of truly hurting themselves.

I know Im damaging my body, but I’ll carry on doing that with the hope of being able to finally wear a T-shirt out in public some day…

So, you knew you had this problem…so what did you expect to hear from us? You aren’t likely to even listen if you won’t even listen to a medical professional who tried to help you before. “Bigorexia” isn’t some problem that manifests with symptoms never seen before. It is the complete opposite of anorexia meaning that even if your professional had never heard of that exact term before, he could approach it the same way. You, however, didn’t even give him the chance…so what do you expect here?

I’ll carry on training and carry on educating myself like I have been doing all these years. I just hope that there might be something medical behind this that can be dealt with.

Gee, isn’t the problem pretty damn clear?

Im 28 years old, been training 6 years, I weigh 165lbs, I do use gear and yes maybe I should have waited but when you’re desperate to gain musle then you’ll do anything to get it.

my bro knows less than half of what I know, he even comes to me for advice and he goes away uses that advice and it usually works - that makes things even harder, watching your younger bro just train and get bigger, it makes dealing with bigorexia even harder.

"Dude, you asked questions and then claimed you were doing everything right. If you are doing everything right, then what is there to ask about? "

Like I said - there might be a doctor about this place and redsoc has given me somthing to read that mighgt help.

so there you go, that MIGHT help me and if it does then Im glad I did ask questions - it cant hurt to ask, can it? as far as I can see I am doing everything right. my diet is spot on but then I get told by you that it isnt or that i am doing something wrong.

“So, you knew you had this problem…so what did you expect to hear from us? You aren’t likely to even listen if you won’t even listen to a medical professional who tried to help you before. “Bigorexia” isn’t some problem that manifests with symptoms never seen before. It is the complete opposite of anorexia meaning that even if your professional had never heard of that exact term before, he could approach it the same way. You, however, didn’t even give him the chance…so what do you expect here?”

what has bigorexia got to do with this? Im talking about my lack of gains, not bigorexia!! and do you really expect me to listen to a psychologist when he sits me down and says “you arent skinny” - would you expect an anorexic girl to be sat down infront of a mirror and be told “you arent fat” she listens to that and then thinks “oh, Im not fat!, Im now cured”?? of course I listened to the psychologist, i just didnt believe him. I did give hima chance, I was seeing him for 2 years. what do I expect here? I expect that maybe someone could actually point me in a new direction like redsoc has… Im not here to talk about bigorexia, that is completley irrelevant, Im here to talk about my inability to gain muscle.

What kind of medications are you on/do you take? [/quote]

I was on ciprimil (an anti-d) but having recentley discovered that that medication can cause prolactin levels to rise I have slowly come off it and for the last 3 weeks Ive not been taking anything. I was on it for a good 3 years.

no mate, I’ve had my diet checdked by 2 nutrionists, one said it was great but I wanted a 2nd opinion so went elsewhere to get one and I was told the same.

like I said above ^^ I’ve recentley had to re-adjust my diet to keep fat gain down, was gaining way too much fat before.

[quote]wannbeBIG wrote:
no mate, I’ve had my diet checdked by 2 nutrionists, one said it was great but I wanted a 2nd opinion so went elsewhere to get one and I was told the same.

like I said above ^^ I’ve recentley had to re-adjust my diet to keep fat gain down, was gaining way too much fat before.[/quote]

but you said you only gained 5-7 pounds, i mean how much fat could you gain in that low amount of weight?

[quote]wannbeBIG wrote:
redsox348984 wrote:

I’ve been training 6 years, only benching 154lbs. after a couple of years of making hardly any progress, I decided to shove my head right into bodybuilding, really get myself aquainted with it, fill my head with knowledge so I could pin point where I was going wrong.

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WannabeBig, you mentioned your bench press numbers above in a previous post. Is this your current bench press max? What sort of weight are you putting up currently on the squat, bench, deadlift, row, military press, and weighted pull up?

Most people would agree that it is very difficult to gain a lot of muscle without gaining quite a bit of strength. How are you progressing from a strength standpoint?

This is just blowing my mind. Even on a calorie deficient diet I can still manage to get my gym numbers to go up, albeit a little slower than if I was eating over maintenance.

[quote]redsox348984 wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
no mate, I’ve had my diet checdked by 2 nutrionists, one said it was great but I wanted a 2nd opinion so went elsewhere to get one and I was told the same.

like I said above ^^ I’ve recentley had to re-adjust my diet to keep fat gain down, was gaining way too much fat before.

but you said you only gained 5-7 pounds, i mean how much fat could you gain in that low amount of weight?[/quote]

I don’t get that either. How the hell is someone gaining too much body fat if it took them six months to gain 5lbs?

People like this piss me off. They claim to be doing everything right…then they ask for help…then they reject that help because they claim to be doing everything right…then they ask for help…then they ask why you are speaking down to them.

Dumbasses suck and there are far too many of them.

wannbeBIG

I think you have something psychological going on. Go find another hobby or something to take your mind off of this because I think you are going to go insane.

Do have any major injuries? You might also have a serious medical issue.

90% of the people who complain on these forums need to shut up, and push themselves in the gym and in the kitchen. That being said you might not be in that 90%.

[quote]Stl Ram wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
redsox348984 wrote:

I’ve been training 6 years, only benching 154lbs. after a couple of years of making hardly any progress, I decided to shove my head right into bodybuilding, really get myself aquainted with it, fill my head with knowledge so I could pin point where I was going wrong.

WannabeBig, you mentioned your bench press numbers above in a previous post. Is this your current bench press max? What sort of weight are you putting up currently on the squat, bench, deadlift, row, military press, and weighted pull up?

Most people would agree that it is very difficult to gain a lot of muscle without gaining quite a bit of strength. How are you progressing from a strength standpoint?

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deadlift - 242lbs for 6 reps
bent over dumbell row - 88lbs x 5 reps
military press using dumbells - 55lbs
I don’t squat at the moment due to a bad knee.

I’ve not been doing weighted pull ups, but when I did it was about 12.5kg for 8 reps.

my bench max would be about 160-170lbs

[quote]wannbeBIG wrote:
redsox348984 wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
no mate, I’ve had my diet checdked by 2 nutrionists, one said it was great but I wanted a 2nd opinion so went elsewhere to get one and I was told the same.

like I said above ^^ I’ve recentley had to re-adjust my diet to keep fat gain down, was gaining way too much fat before.

but you said you only gained 5-7 pounds, i mean how much fat could you gain in that low amount of weight?

no, I said Id be happy with that. Ive gained about 15lbs of muscle in 6 years of training.

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Then BE CLEAR, how much weight did you gain when you thought you gained so much body fat? What weight did you get up to?

[quote]Soco wrote:
wannbeBIG

I think you have something psychological going on. Go find another hobby or something to take your mind off of this because I think you are going to go insane.

Do have any major injuries? You might also have a serious medical issue.

90% of the people who complain on these forums need to shut up, and push themselves in the gym and in the kitchen. That being said you might not be in that 90%.

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I think you could be right - it’s just the frustration of failing, re-assesing everything, re-adjusting diet/training and going again, only to fail again - that cycle is just an ongoing thing. the frustration is eating me up and it doesnt help with idiots belittling me and being patronsing and then telling me that my diet is poor. Ive trained with my bro and his mates and it’s sickening seeing them get so big while Im still the same size. my bro is huge and he asks me for advice on diet and training because he knows that I spend so much time reading about training routines, he asks me to give him a routine every now and then and his usual reponse is “I like it, gained well” though occasionally he says “nah, that routine wasnt as good as the last one”

[quote]wannbeBIG wrote:
Professor X wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
redsox348984 wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
no mate, I’ve had my diet checdked by 2 nutrionists, one said it was great but I wanted a 2nd opinion so went elsewhere to get one and I was told the same.

like I said above ^^ I’ve recentley had to re-adjust my diet to keep fat gain down, was gaining way too much fat before.

but you said you only gained 5-7 pounds, i mean how much fat could you gain in that low amount of weight?

no, I said Id be happy with that. Ive gained about 15lbs of muscle in 6 years of training.

Then BE CLEAR, how much weight did you gain when you thought you gained so much body fat? What weight did you get up to?

well, I did get upto about 180lbs and Im now about 160-165lbs but still cant see my abs - Id need to lose another 15- 20lbs or so to be ‘lean’.

Im comfortable at this weight even though Im not exactly lean. used to be a 28 inch waist, Im now 33 inch waist and have been as high as a 36.5 inch waist.

I’ve been as high as 30% bodyfat and that was just way too much for me, when I start to get near 25% then I cut.
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How are you measuring your body fat percentage? Are you doing this yourself? You are claiming you weighed 180lbs with 30% body fat? How is that even possible if you WORKOUT? That means a lean body mass of LESS than 130lbs.

[quote]wannbeBIG wrote:
using the 9 site way with calipers.

measureing these sites:

lower back
upper back
belly
hip
thigh
calf
chest
tricep
bicep

I have a LBM of about 130-135lbs.

what do you mean ‘how is that possible’?

I started off with a LBW of about 115-120lbs when I first started training.

I said I gain large amounts of fat.
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The lifts you listed are weak. Someone training as long as you claim you have should be pushing more weight. I truly don’t think you train hard enough. Most people can get to 130lbs of lean body mass without lifting weights at all. Simply going to the gym and sleep walking through the exercises doesn’t count.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
using the 9 site way with calipers.

measureing these sites:

lower back
upper back
belly
hip
thigh
calf
chest
tricep
bicep

I have a LBM of about 130-135lbs.

what do you mean ‘how is that possible’?

I started off with a LBW of about 115-120lbs when I first started training.

I said I gain large amounts of fat.

The lifts you listed are weak. Someone training as long as you claim you have should be pushing more weight. I truly don’t think you train hard enough. Most people can get to 130lbs of lean body mass without lifting weights at all. Simply going to the gym and sleep walking through the exercises doesn’t count.
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why dont you listen to me?

I push myself so fucking hard, so hard Ive actually been sick on leg day…

I know my limits and I know how hard I push myself and I push myself hard enough.

do you think that i stroll out the gym with my mates/bro having hardly trained? geeeeezus! you are so wrong.

Ive been at both ends of the spectrum - Ive tried pushing myself to the limit to pushing myself not as hard, to hardly pushing myself -like I’ve already said - Ive tried everything that Ive come across so far.

I started off lifting 60lbs on bench press when I first started lifting though…

I think I figured it out! And it’s so simple.

You were born a woman.
Am I right?

[quote]MrTangerineSpedo wrote:
I think I figured it out! And it’s so simple.

You were born a woman.
Am I right?[/quote]

how old are you? 10? run along now, mummy is calling you.

[quote]MrTangerineSpedo wrote:
I think I figured it out! And it’s so simple.

You were born a woman.
Am I right?[/quote]

wow i definitly wasent expecting that answer lol. it actually would explain alot but i think he would of mentioned it

[quote]wannbeBIG wrote:
Professor X wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
redsox348984 wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
no mate, I’ve had my diet checdked by 2 nutrionists, one said it was great but I wanted a 2nd opinion so went elsewhere to get one and I was told the same.

like I said above ^^ I’ve recentley had to re-adjust my diet to keep fat gain down, was gaining way too much fat before.

but you said you only gained 5-7 pounds, i mean how much fat could you gain in that low amount of weight?

no, I said Id be happy with that. Ive gained about 15lbs of muscle in 6 years of training.

Then BE CLEAR, how much weight did you gain when you thought you gained so much body fat? What weight did you get up to?

well, I did get upto about 180lbs and Im now about 160-165lbs but still cant see my abs - Id need to lose another 15- 20lbs or so to be ‘lean’.

Im comfortable at this weight even though Im not exactly lean. used to be a 28 inch waist, Im now 33 inch waist and have been as high as a 36.5 inch waist.

I’ve been as high as 30% bodyfat and that was just way too much for me, when I start to get near 25% then I cut.
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once you gain weight you are supposed to hold that weight for awhile before you cut. cutting right away you will lose all of your gains.

if you are 160 pounds about 130-135 pounds LBM then you said you were 180 pounds 30 percent body fat, which would be even lower than 130LBM. i dont see how it would be possible to gain weight and lose LBM

if your brother is making good gains, id watch what he is doing. he must be doing something different

[quote]redsox348984 wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
Professor X wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
redsox348984 wrote:
wannbeBIG wrote:
no mate, I’ve had my diet checdked by 2 nutrionists, one said it was great but I wanted a 2nd opinion so went elsewhere to get one and I was told the same.

like I said above ^^ I’ve recentley had to re-adjust my diet to keep fat gain down, was gaining way too much fat before.

but you said you only gained 5-7 pounds, i mean how much fat could you gain in that low amount of weight?

no, I said Id be happy with that. Ive gained about 15lbs of muscle in 6 years of training.

Then BE CLEAR, how much weight did you gain when you thought you gained so much body fat? What weight did you get up to?

well, I did get upto about 180lbs and Im now about 160-165lbs but still cant see my abs - Id need to lose another 15- 20lbs or so to be ‘lean’.

Im comfortable at this weight even though Im not exactly lean. used to be a 28 inch waist, Im now 33 inch waist and have been as high as a 36.5 inch waist.

I’ve been as high as 30% bodyfat and that was just way too much for me, when I start to get near 25% then I cut.

once you gain weight you are supposed to hold that weight for awhile before you cut. cutting right away you will lose all of your gains.

if you are 160 pounds about 130-135 pounds LBM then you said you were 180 pounds 30 percent body fat, which would be even lower than 130LBM. i dont see how it would be possible to gain weight and lose LBM
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I dont have the exact figures infront of me so I cant comment (my training program tracker isnt here)

I dont cut right away, that would be foolish. I try anbd maintain my gains even tho they are shit, then cut.

[quote]redsox348984 wrote:
if your brother is making good gains, id watch what he is doing. he must be doing something different[/quote]

mate, Ive been there 100 times before.

obviously if Im training with someone and they are gaining and Im not, then I will sit up and take notice of what he’s doing.

I’ve recentley been doing a 4 day split, training each muscle group with 10-12 sets, taking the last 1-2 sets to failure on each lift.

5 sets of deadlifts and 5 sets of bent over rows and Im ready to curl up and die.

I tried lowering the weight a while back to see if that helped and slowly increased the weight but once again I couldnt get past the point I was at before - this happens all the time, no matter what I do from upping calories to changing routines, my body doesnt want to get any bigger or stronger.