[quote]nz6stringaxe wrote:
CC, I keep a detailed food log. I’ll send you information in a PM.[/quote]
I can’t receive PM’s anymore, nor answer them. Post it in my training thread or so…
[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:
i’m looking forward to chicken and rice w/ hot sauce, am i going to shrink tonight if i eat chicken and not red meat? My selenium and creatine levels are going to be markedly lowered, shit.[/quote]
Chicken is for girly men. Try a real meaty meat with your rice and hot sauce. Like kangaroo.
[quote]Nate112 wrote:
For a bunch of bodybuilders and weightlifters we really spend too much time on forums.[/quote]
Yes, but these forums make you want to eat more and lift heavy ass weight, at least it does that to people who actually like to eat and lift heavy ass weights.
Fuck this shit! Lets talk all time greatest bulk meals!!!
Mine would have to be the CPC. Its chicken, pig, cow all in a hamburger
Last time I was over at that spot the owner that dubbed me “Growing Boy” had the chef craft me a CPC for my new 250lb self. It was
2 grilled chicken breasts
1 giant Kobe beef patty
4 slices of bacon
All in a whole wheat bun and with a spring salad on the side. All on the house because he was stoked to see me 40lbs heavier than last time we met.
[quote]Nate112 wrote:
For a bunch of bodybuilders and weightlifters we really spend too much time on forums.[/quote]
some people have desk jobs… that they hate… hence posting during the day.
I just read through this entire thread while eating 2 cheese burgers, a medium order of fries, and washing it all down with a triple thick chocolate milk shake.
[quote]jd_dd wrote:
I just read through this entire thread while eating 2 cheese burgers, a medium order of fries, and washing it all down with a triple thick chocolate milk shake.[/quote]
i had that about a hour ago…
ALL HAIL THE GOLDEN ARCHES!!!
Come on now, that is not even a snack, it is just a nibble 
[quote]Kanada wrote:
you cant eat your muscles bigger. if all you had to do was eat, there wouldnt be an obesity epidemic. no, all the world would be gradually gaining muscle at an alarming rate.
muscular stimulation is needed, and this is true for those tryin to gain weight and those trying to lose weight. the essential counterpoint to stimulation is recovery.
both those are readily accepted truths. but how food and muscles relate has intrigued me for some time. specifically, why is bulking overwhelmingly encouraged (at least on this board)? why can’t a trainee stay lean for every pound gained?
now, i do not discount food as an essential ingredient in gaining muscle, which is the goal of most trainees. note i didnt say gain weight. they dont neccessarily go together. red meat seems to be a food that encourages muscular growth, a notion i first came to believe through my research of history. the german “barbarians” who fought the roman legionaires were reputed to be far larger and more muscular than the average roman soldier, and roman historians claimed this was due to there judicious meat eating. whether or not that is true, it seems reasonable that eating meat will put meat on your bones. im not talkin chicken, but real meaty meat. like kangaroo.
so again, why bulk? if your eating anabolic food, working out intelligently, recovering, all that fun stuff, you shuold gain muscle. in fact, you couldnt not gain muscle. and eventually, after enough muscle gained, a trainee should weigh more that before. or less if the trainee was burning fat.
it just seems that if you do bulk, your just eatin because you like eatin. sure you are eatin the right foods, just more than you need. your workin out right, doin everythin right, but you are eatin more than you need. sure the extra pounds may help incraese leg size, especially you calves, but its not a neccessary piece of the pie. go ahead and try bulk. because after a bulk comes a cut. which means cutting calories, losing strength, etc. not ideal for muscular growth.
so, why bulk?[/quote]
why fuck?
Simonidas!
Nice avatar. Whats it say on his chest?
Same answer, why not.
[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:
Come on now, that is not even a snack, it is just a nibble
[/quote]
that was just my pre dinner mc donalds
[quote]AverageGuy wrote:
Simonidas!
Nice avatar. Whats it say on his chest?[/quote]
“less talky
more lifty”
[quote]Simonidas wrote:
AverageGuy wrote:
Simonidas!
Nice avatar. Whats it say on his chest?
“less talky
more lifty”
[/quote]
haha that’s golden
[quote]smoundzou wrote:
I can’t believe I wasted 2 minutes reading the op’s post and then another 20 seconds replying…[/quote]
i cant believe you cant read
OK, my turn to take some lumps (not really my intention, but it seems to be part of the initiation).
Question for the accomplished lifters (Prof X, et al): What’s an “acceptable” rate of fat gain while you’re bulking?
Over the past three years I’ve read everything from “cut to 10% then bulk to 15%, repeat” to (on this very recent thread
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“hold your fat gain in intended-muscle-gaining weeks down to just 2 or 3 lb of fat per month – or say a half inch on the waist”.
I’ve read tons of articles and posts, focusing mostly here on T-Nation since discovering it. Since letting myself get “skinny-fat” over the past 10 years, then getting my waist back down from 36" to 33", I’m one of those guys who’s afraid of letting himself get “fat”, even though I know, being a lifelong skinny guy, I can cut fat at the drop of a hat and I need to gain some serious mass.
Looking forward to some helpful rule-of-thumb guidance.
Thanks
i had a big arguement, but i was wrong. this is why i posted my query. i wasnt lookin at the issue the right way. at the apex or my arguement, i realized my downfall.
plato (or aristotle) once said, to be great in strength and stature, you must eat big. that is true. i got confused when i started seeing what some people called bulking, and rejected it by sight and by the descriptions people associated to bulkin. it seemed uncomfortable and messy.
not everyone bulks the same. and not every bulk will mean you lose your abs. not every bulk ends with a 20 lb cut. some need 40.
but when i asked why bulk, i forgot what bulkin meant. to bulk is to literally bulk up. if your not bulkin, how can you get bigger. somehow i missed that simple fact. bulk away, as i wipe the egg off my face
I somehow came across a more retarded thread: (check out his weight)
Haven’t read most of the thread but as an ex-boxer, when i moved up weight classes i ate a shit load of food. This for someone trying to lose wieght to meet my weight class seems crazy but it was the best way to pack good muscle on fast while doing low cardio, then adding in cardio later to lose extra love handles.
The idea of a bulk, for the uneducated is to eat any ol’ shit that aint pinned down. Wrong, eat extra of the good stuff, get more of the vital macronutrients and a surplus to make your skinny ass grow, not to keep t’ abz.
When i was fighting at 64kg trying to maintain, i could maybe deadlift just bout 100kg , db press 25kg and chin body weight etc. pathetic, i know. When i upped everything the right way and removed cardio, within 4weeks i was deadlifting 140kg, db pressing 40kg in each hand and chinups with 30kg attached. My calories had gone from 2000ish to 4000+, moved my weight upto 79 kilos within 8weeks and only gained slight fat. That shit would’ve been impossible without the bulk, you limit both mass and strength gains while limiting your eating, it’s crazy if you wanna get big.
I once ate 5 sushi rolls and 2 plates of close to 8oz of sashimi a pop for a post-workout meal once when I was bulking. The owner just stood there in amazement yelling at his chef in Japanese as I consumed everything. “You are a big man with a bottomless stomach!”