WHY Are You In This Forum?

[quote]Zillah wrote:
This was an entertaining read whilst I had steak. The downside is that I got some sauce on my keyboard.[/quote]

Really?

Thread Questionnaire Form 12-A

1- What specific topics in this thread were most entertaining?

2- Who was the biggest bitch?

3- Did Lankymofo do a good job of sweeping up afterwards?

4- Will Professor X ever diet down?

5- Will people with no pictures and no personal info in their profiles ever grow some balls?

6- What will become of bodybuilding?

Please answer these questions truthfully. Thank you for your participation.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Zillah wrote:
This was an entertaining read whilst I had steak. The downside is that I got some sauce on my keyboard.

Really?[/quote]

No.

[quote]Zillah wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Zillah wrote:
This was an entertaining read whilst I had steak. The downside is that I got some sauce on my keyboard.

Really?

No.

[/quote]

Best. Post.

/thread

[quote]Zillah wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Zillah wrote:
This was an entertaining read whilst I had steak. The downside is that I got some sauce on my keyboard.

Really?

No.

[/quote]

Hey Zillah, your spider is missing a leg.

lol

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

Lol, I remember that thread. How wasn’t that awesome?[/quote]

Looking back, it’s a lot funnier now. I’m pretty fuckin witty.

[quote]MikeKubo wrote:
Calling kids fucking retards because they don’t know about ramping their weights, etc “How complicated is this shit? Are you all fucking morons?!” is a little on the rough side.
[/quote]

I guess you can be a little on the rough side after anwsering questions on 50 or so threads about ramping. Maybe these people could do a little research on their own. That would save on redundant thread topics.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
X speaks truth, and too many people here have a hard time swallowing truth.

You never have trouble swallowing, I’d surmise. You’re even swallowing in your avatar.

Swallow on, oh Mighty Mouse…

[/quote]

Is it on purpose that your new avatar has such a resemblance to that picture of Christian Bale from the Machinist?

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:

henny is for black people and white people who want to be black.

Massively ironic when you’re considering who’s saying this. [/quote]

hey, fuck you.

[quote]MikeKubo wrote:
Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:
I agree some don’t have the genetics- which is why I don’t understand your frequent cries of “fuck limitations” while conjuring images of pushing through perceived barriers and not believing in what may be maximally possible for most people. I agree, there are genetic limitations relative to the highest levels of the sport, but that doesn’t mean that the rest of us can’t try to achieve our potential while being well aware that we probably won’t end up looking like a pro. You can still “build” a damn good “body” all while learning about yourself and being a healthy individual. I don’t have to be Tiger Woods to enjoy and strive at gold and I sure as hell don’t have to be Ronnie Coleman to engage in bodybuilding.

Also, I’m curious- how many years have you been lifting seriously, and how much weight have you gained since you began?

Most of us will not look like pro bodybuilders. Some of us don’t even have that goal. My goal is to look like the guys competing in NPC, not those on the Olympia stage. What does what you are writing have to do with anything? To be at a stage that most can not reach is the goal for many of us whether we want to actually be Ronnie Coleman or not. It all takes the same heart and the same consistency. Are you implying it doesn’t?

As far as my own stats, how will that help you? I have posted in detail more shit about my own progress than anyone else here. You don’t need any more info.

Feel free to read the last sentence of my post first.

Are you natural? Have you always been natural? Do you intend to stay natural?

Also, the reason I asked your beginning and ending stats (which, by the way, it would’ve been easier for you to simply type the answer than what you wrote) is that I’m curious as to what your average annual bodyweight gain has been. It’s a straightforward question, and you have quite an ego if you think your mere posting about it in some other thread at some other time means, per se, everyone will or should already know that. I’m not aware of everyone’s actions on this site.

From what I gather, you started around age 17 or so and are currently 30-32. If you started around 170, and are now 270, that means you have gained roughly 6-7.5 lbs per year. I realize that there have been fluctuations along the way.

I’m also TRULY curious as to how you are a self-appointed arbiter of what flies on this site. You have never fully dieted down to contest condition, never competed in any strength or bodybuilding competition, haven’t really trained anyone, don’t have the education/certifications, etc…none of the “typical” stuff.

All you have is almost 30K posts and are a big guy-- I see that in my gym every day.

I have absolutely zero doubt that part of it is the fact that you are encouraged (free supplements? I dunno) by Tim and others to continue the internet persona and lend credibility to the forums. They generate traffic, and just like a good gym you need street cred to generate forum traffic because after all, forum traffic generates $$$$ for the site.

You can start by answering my basic question above regarding time elapsed and weight gain. Then, you can move on to the other stuff if you’d like.

Just bear in mind that you started this fucking thread and in effect called everyone out that you disagree w/…since your trump card is your own progress and acheivements you have put those at issue and so they are fair game.

I do not use steroids. I have bought MAG-10 from this website before though. What does this have to do WITH YOU? It is none of your business what my stats are. That has nothing at all TO DO WITH YOU. What does MY progress have to do with YOUR progress? Jealous?

No offense bro, but if this isn’t the pot calling the kettle, well, copper, so as to not be called a racist by you (although I have RARELY seen you play that card, and have heard others mention it more than anything, fwiw) then I don’t know what the fuck is. This is literally THE most hypocritical thing I’ve read in any post on this site- EVER.

WHAT THE FUCK does EVERY SINGLE OTHER POSTER’S STATS, WHO DO NOT LIVE UP TO YOUR IDEAL AND GAIN YOUR FAVOR, HAVE TO FUCKING DO WITH YOU?!

And for the record, I agree with a great deal of what you say. The truth is, you go about it like a prick. I gotta imagine you got into bodybuilding not because of the small dick thing (because that mother fucker better be 20 or 30 feet long the way all these goofy assholes blindly hang from it/run to defend you when you are, quite often, on a basis of general human manners, wrong ), but because you were obviously fucking tormented and beaten upon daily as a skinny little kid, and are now getting your revenge or something.

And truthfully, I get you. I see you try and help guys out. Tough love, yada yada. And you are quite a funny bastard when you want to be also. Again though, you are also, more often than not, a completely intolerant prick to anyone who has a lesser physique or opposing viewpoint to yours. People come from all walks of life brother, and people all learn from different sources and have different experiences, goals, etc.

Calling kids fucking retards because they don’t know about ramping their weights, etc “How complicated is this shit? Are you all fucking morons?!” is a little on the rough side. And again, time after time, it’s you throwing your two cents in on someone else’s topic when no one asked for it or invited you to the party.

For you to sit there and say “None of your business, my stats have nothing to do with you!” is the most asinine thing you could’ve possibly said there, especially when EVERY single thing he just called you out on, like you get such a glee on doing to others- never dieted down to contest shape, never competed in bodybuilding or strength, are not some world famous trainer to the stars, etc…Every bit of it is true.

And that was your response. “It’s not your business…Don’t look behind the curtains, Tin Man…There’s nothing back there to see…” You just lost a shit ton of credibility for those who actually TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE and don’t just BLINDLY follow what someone says, but actually form their own opinions based on logic and intelligence. You are one big guy in the world…nothing more.

And the good knowledge, quite frankly, that you do have for guys is so smattered in between you burying everyone and shitting on them to prop yourself up as the high and mighty Im sure, for many guys, is just not worth even looking for.

There are plenty of other big, or gasp BIGGER guys out there, like Disc Hoss, Modok, or Dante Trudell, just to name a few, who offer as much (and I’m being modest for their sake, as all are very humble, helpful guys) as you do but without all the insults and trash talking and tearing everyone apart because, well, I dunno…Maybe their brothers didnt make them eat a shit sandwich every morning of their life and now they have to get all their hate out.

Fuck, Dante was 137 lbs, and I don’t see him tearing apart everyone who posts on his boards…“Have you ever been to the gym? Are you an anorexic idiot? Fuck off and die!” The three guys mentioned are people to look up to, because their CHARACTER is as big as their muscle.

Sadly, X, you have a shit ton to offer these forums also, if you’d ever get yourself some fucking prozac, stop for a minute, and realize…“Hey, I was a skinny little poor (if I remember correctly- apologies if that is incorrect) kid. I’m now a very well built, hard working, respected DOCTOR. These guys in here look up to me, not only as a lifter, but as a dude in general. I’ve won the game.And now that I’ve won, and seeing as I’m smart enough to realize that with power comes equal responsibility, I should take it upon myself, since I obviously CARE enough to jump into every fucking post on this board, to step back and admit my own faults. I realize I have let this entire board down with the way I talk to people, as my lessons get lost in my fake machismo bullshit attitude,and now I will start treating people with the same respect and dignity that I fucking DEMAND. Because in the end, I have so much to offer these young guys, and no one on here,by having an inferior build/different thought process and learning experience to mine has harmed me in any way whatsoever. And a lot of them are actually FANS of mine, and judging by their posts, would actually be HONORED to be my friend and get some helpful advice from me without all the insults and maybe, just maybe, on my birthday or something, even a compliment or two. So, from now on, I will show a little bit more CLASS and as such, it would also make my life easier because even more people would take my great advice if I gave more of it and gave less bitching and complaining, thereby creating far fewer stupid, ignorant posters with shitty builds who don’t belong here for me to jump my big ass all over when its none of MY business”.

And I APOLOGIZE if you feel I’m being overly harsh. I just cant believe you had the mother fucking audacity, after your 30,000 something posts of jumping into other peoples threads tearing them apart and making them feel like shit about themselves, their goals, their progress and their intelligence that you could tell anyone that your progress is none of their business. Worst. Reply. Ever.

Kubo

[/quote]

Holy shit, this may be the best post I’ve ever read on this site.

Talk about a home-run.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
trextacy wrote:

My point is you’ve made excellent progress, esp. for a natural guy, but it has taken a lot of time and effort and progress has been, overall, more glacial than perhaps you realize…

…and my point is you are a fucking idiot. I gained on average about 20lbs a year for about 3-4 years. Yes, gains slowed down after that but I was already “big” compared to most people so that is to be expected. Most of you here don’t ever seem to even reach that point…aside from the few like “kingbeef” who quit the fucking whining and just do it.
[/quote]

Lol @ 4 years of “newbie” gains.
I mean it can’t happen, it just can’t! ask all the lab rats in the white coats… They say you can’t, so it must be true, right? I mean they have formulae showing why and everything…

[quote]red04 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
X speaks truth, and too many people here have a hard time swallowing truth.

You never have trouble swallowing, I’d surmise. You’re even swallowing in your avatar.

Swallow on, oh Mighty Mouse…

Is it on purpose that your new avatar has such a resemblance to that picture of Christian Bale from the Machinist?[/quote]

Just showing what old men can do when they don’t bulk.

You know, all you ‘bulk boys’ are teaching your bodies how to add on fat, in all of this mad rush to get big? Nature happily loads you up with lard if you hurry your gains. But go ahead and eat your two steaks a day and chug down 3 shakes. “Wow, look at the bulky freak that entered the room! Let’s all go stare in awe at his awesomeness!!”

Pathetic.

[quote]trextacy wrote:

  1. I am in this forum because I like the people, the advice and seeing people achieve their goals (or learning from failures). Generally, it’s a great resource w/ great people.

  2. Generally, the lamenting that goes on is a waste of time and says more about the person posting than the subject about which they lament.

  3. There needs to be more (a) posting about bodybuilding than (b) posting about posting about bodybuilding.

  4. 80% (warning: made up statistic) of the time this is a SEMANTIC discussion- IOW, it’s merely arguments about what is embraced/described by the word “bodybuilding”.

  5. MY GRIPE w/ some people who are “hardcore” around here is the fact that EVERYTHING is skewed by the drug use that is rampant in the sport. The reality is that our perception about what constitutes big, well-conditioned, strong, etc. has been skewed to the point that people who make fantastic progress (e.g. 15 lbs of muscle in a year with little fat gain) are seen as pussies who aren’t eating enough. Adding 35 lean pounds of muscle over 5-7 years may not be that bad in terms of progress. I frequently read things like “come back when you’ve gained 20 lbs”-- well, that could be 2 years unless the person wants half their new weight to be fat, so that advice is shitty and creates the perception among impressionable newbs that they need to gain weight faster than they really need to.

Please don’t drill me on the numbers I’m using…I’m just using those examples to illustrate an overall point. For natural trainees, I do believe that different eating habits and training protocols may be more optimal. So, when Flex Wheeler or Branch Warren’s training routine/intensity are discussed, it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. At the same time, the tired old chestnut of “this shit has worked for pros for decades, why are you making it so complicated” IS NOT very helpful to most people.

So, to summarize- it’s the insistence that how the pros train, eat, recover, etc. is the end all, w/o at least acknowledging that their approach works particularly well due to drugs is to turn a blind eye to a key component of their overall approach and successs. I don’t think a natural trainee w/ something other than elite genetics should eat/train like a pro.

That doesn’t make me anti-bodybuilding. Niether does my belief that newbs are tending to pack on too much fat in their pursuit of mass than they need to be, and that’s a direct result of certain people preaching their gospel of weight gain. I realize newbs’ reading comprehension abilities are partially to blame.

Remember, size impresses, conditioning wins contests.

I agree that a pro BB’s routine will not give the average natural BB the same results.

The second coming of Rockscar, to be sure.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:

Lol, I remember that thread. How wasn’t that awesome?

Looking back, it’s a lot funnier now. I’m pretty fuckin witty.[/quote]

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
red04 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
X speaks truth, and too many people here have a hard time swallowing truth.

You never have trouble swallowing, I’d surmise. You’re even swallowing in your avatar.

Swallow on, oh Mighty Mouse…

Is it on purpose that your new avatar has such a resemblance to that picture of Christian Bale from the Machinist?

Just showing what old men can do when they don’t bulk.

You know, all you ‘bulk boys’ are teaching your bodies how to add on fat, in all of this mad rush to get big? Nature happily loads you up with lard if you hurry your gains. But go ahead and eat your two steaks a day and chug down 3 shakes. “Wow, look at the bulky freak that entered the room! Let’s all go stare in awe at his awesomeness!!”

Pathetic.
[/quote]

With my construction job, I’d lose weight eating just two steaks and having 3 shakes. Add 6-8 whole eggs. Maybe another shake(with oatmeal in all shakes of course), quick stop at Burger king, Taco bell or a couple slices of pizza, sushi or maybe breadsticks mmmm. Maybe some chicken and white rice to. That would sound a bit more accurate.

Prof X. Do you have a picture other than that cartoon character?

[quote]Diesel City wrote:
Prof X. Do you have a picture other than that cartoon character? [/quote]

He certainly does. And he is one huge motherfucker… : )

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
red04 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
X speaks truth, and too many people here have a hard time swallowing truth.

You never have trouble swallowing, I’d surmise. You’re even swallowing in your avatar.

Swallow on, oh Mighty Mouse…

Is it on purpose that your new avatar has such a resemblance to that picture of Christian Bale from the Machinist?

Just showing what old men can do when they don’t bulk.

You know, all you ‘bulk boys’ are teaching your bodies how to add on fat, in all of this mad rush to get big? Nature happily loads you up with lard if you hurry your gains. But go ahead and eat your two steaks a day and chug down 3 shakes. “Wow, look at the bulky freak that entered the room! Let’s all go stare in awe at his awesomeness!!”

Pathetic.
[/quote]

I’ve got to agree w/ this guy. Looking like a fat ass and claiming you’re bulking isn’t cool, actually you’re just fat! I’ve been there…

[quote]Diesel City wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
red04 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
X speaks truth, and too many people here have a hard time swallowing truth.

You never have trouble swallowing, I’d surmise. You’re even swallowing in your avatar.

Swallow on, oh Mighty Mouse…

Is it on purpose that your new avatar has such a resemblance to that picture of Christian Bale from the Machinist?

Just showing what old men can do when they don’t bulk.

You know, all you ‘bulk boys’ are teaching your bodies how to add on fat, in all of this mad rush to get big? Nature happily loads you up with lard if you hurry your gains. But go ahead and eat your two steaks a day and chug down 3 shakes. “Wow, look at the bulky freak that entered the room! Let’s all go stare in awe at his awesomeness!!”

Pathetic.

I’ve got to agree w/ this guy. Looking like a fat ass and claiming you’re bulking isn’t cool, actually you’re just fat! I’ve been there…[/quote]

lol. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don’t know whom you just agreed with.

[quote]GuerillaZen wrote:
Diesel City wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
red04 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
X speaks truth, and too many people here have a hard time swallowing truth.

You never have trouble swallowing, I’d surmise. You’re even swallowing in your avatar.

Swallow on, oh Mighty Mouse…

Is it on purpose that your new avatar has such a resemblance to that picture of Christian Bale from the Machinist?

Just showing what old men can do when they don’t bulk.

You know, all you ‘bulk boys’ are teaching your bodies how to add on fat, in all of this mad rush to get big? Nature happily loads you up with lard if you hurry your gains. But go ahead and eat your two steaks a day and chug down 3 shakes. “Wow, look at the bulky freak that entered the room! Let’s all go stare in awe at his awesomeness!!”

Pathetic.

I’ve got to agree w/ this guy. Looking like a fat ass and claiming you’re bulking isn’t cool, actually you’re just fat! I’ve been there…

lol. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don’t know whom you just agreed with.
[/quote]

I don’t know who he is… He makes a valid point. I’ll bet there a shit load of 18-24 year olds in their parents basement right now claiming to be bulking, and they are fat shits. They know who they are.

[quote]Diesel City wrote:
I’ve got to agree w/ this guy. Looking like a fat ass and claiming you’re bulking isn’t cool, actually you’re just fat! I’ve been there…[/quote]

No dude - you’re actually not “just fat”. I saw your before pic - you sure as fuck weren’t “just fat”. You had a shitload of muscle under that layer of chub. Which is why you were able to diet down to an impressive physique with thick muscle. And is also why you don’t look like you have a wasting disease like cancer or aids in the after shot. You look like a bodybuilder.

Guys who are “just fat” are couch-potatoes with little to no developed muscle mass - that’s “just fat”…