Why Are Female Bikini Models so Self Absorbed?

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
I got an instagram for the sole purpose of following as many of these bikini competitors/fitness models as possible. [/quote]

fuckin a right ^

Michelle Lewin’s body is RI-DIC-U-LOUS.

So much saltiness from OP, I’m chugging water from just reading it.
Did a Bikini Model reject you?

[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]GetSwoleToday wrote:
I workout all the time. Through facebook I have had women send me friend requests who compete in the bikini division. I have never seen so much self absorbed individuals as these. Every freakin day its a new selfie in their workout gear with a latte from Starbucks it seems. Its driven me to the point of deleting some of them.

I have bodybuilder friends who are male and they do not post this non sense. Maybe a video of them here and there of breaking a new PR but that’s about it.

Can someone please explain to me why women who compete in the bikini division are so desperate of validation? Were these girls fat at one time or something?[/quote]

In case you haven’t realized, bodybuilding–and I mean all of bodybuilding, including fitness, figure, bikini, physique–attracts, and has always attracted, people with many issues.
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Do you have anything positive to say? Like ever? you are one depressing son of a bitch dude.
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I was simply responding to the topic at hand.

I seriously apologize, not kidding. I will knock it off. I like your posts here, always have and didn’t mean to offend you.

Again, sorry.
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man idk if you’re being sarcastic but either way i feel like a dick now, it just seems like you have a negative view towards this sport/industry, whatever you want to call it. Like you have some kind of chip on your shoulder or something.
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You really feeling bodybuilding as a whole doesn’t attract a majority (ie greater than 50%) that have some issues? It’s pretty apparent when you talk to many people or follow the sport. The OCPD and narcissistic personality is beneficial in this sport. And many have body dismorphia or eating disorders. Doesn’t mean people or bad or assholes or that everyone is. Just that this sport again just makes it attractive to those types and can even create some of the disorders.

If you talk to some of them, you’ll find out that they’re actually some of the nicest, hardworking, and realistic women. Not lazy, self-entitled princesses. Wifey material.
I’d suggest overlooking their stupid facebook posts OP

[quote]GetSwoleToday wrote:
I workout all the time.[/quote]

I laughed. Not that I know shit about how much you do or don’t workout, but at how hilarious it is that the first words everyone gets to read after that title are these.

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]GetSwoleToday wrote:
I workout all the time.[/quote]

I laughed. Not that I know shit about how much you do or don’t workout, but at how hilarious it is that the first words everyone gets to read after that title are these.[/quote]
just noticed lol

also OP there’s a big difference between being a commited gym rat and actually competing and being a bodybuilder/physique athlete. The amounts of focus and dedication are on two separate levels.

Try it and you might understand these bikini girls from their POV

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]GetSwoleToday wrote:
I workout all the time. Through facebook I have had women send me friend requests who compete in the bikini division. I have never seen so much self absorbed individuals as these. Every freakin day its a new selfie in their workout gear with a latte from Starbucks it seems. Its driven me to the point of deleting some of them.

I have bodybuilder friends who are male and they do not post this non sense. Maybe a video of them here and there of breaking a new PR but that’s about it.

Can someone please explain to me why women who compete in the bikini division are so desperate of validation? Were these girls fat at one time or something?[/quote]

In case you haven’t realized, bodybuilding–and I mean all of bodybuilding, including fitness, figure, bikini, physique–attracts, and has always attracted, people with many issues.
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Do you have anything positive to say? Like ever? you are one depressing son of a bitch dude.
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I was simply responding to the topic at hand.

I seriously apologize, not kidding. I will knock it off. I like your posts here, always have and didn’t mean to offend you.

Again, sorry.
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man idk if you’re being sarcastic but either way i feel like a dick now, it just seems like you have a negative view towards this sport/industry, whatever you want to call it. Like you have some kind of chip on your shoulder or something.
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You really feeling bodybuilding as a whole doesn’t attract a majority (ie greater than 50%) that have some issues? It’s pretty apparent when you talk to many people or follow the sport. The OCPD and narcissistic personality is beneficial in this sport. And many have body dismorphia or eating disorders. Doesn’t mean people or bad or assholes or that everyone is. Just that this sport again just makes it attractive to those types and can even create some of the disorders. [/quote]

I don’t know, I think with any sport you will find people with “issues”. Maybe it is true, I haven’t really noticed it. Maybe when you look at it in a negative way that’s the way you see it. I don’t really consider those “issues” though. I don’t think the majority are narcarsistic. I just think most are obsessed with progression. Just like any other sport. Body dysmorphia is definitely a real thing. I think that’s what keeps some people progressing though. I’d rather have body dysmorphia than think I was fucking huge when im actually a twig. Some people just have much higher goals than others physique wise so they feel small because they know how much farther they have to go to reach their goals but to a normal person they look big. If that’s body dysmorphia then im glad i have it.

[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]GetSwoleToday wrote:
I workout all the time. Through facebook I have had women send me friend requests who compete in the bikini division. I have never seen so much self absorbed individuals as these. Every freakin day its a new selfie in their workout gear with a latte from Starbucks it seems. Its driven me to the point of deleting some of them.

I have bodybuilder friends who are male and they do not post this non sense. Maybe a video of them here and there of breaking a new PR but that’s about it.

Can someone please explain to me why women who compete in the bikini division are so desperate of validation? Were these girls fat at one time or something?[/quote]

In case you haven’t realized, bodybuilding–and I mean all of bodybuilding, including fitness, figure, bikini, physique–attracts, and has always attracted, people with many issues.
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Do you have anything positive to say? Like ever? you are one depressing son of a bitch dude.
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I was simply responding to the topic at hand.

I seriously apologize, not kidding. I will knock it off. I like your posts here, always have and didn’t mean to offend you.

Again, sorry.
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man idk if you’re being sarcastic but either way i feel like a dick now, it just seems like you have a negative view towards this sport/industry, whatever you want to call it. Like you have some kind of chip on your shoulder or something.
[/quote]

You really feeling bodybuilding as a whole doesn’t attract a majority (ie greater than 50%) that have some issues? It’s pretty apparent when you talk to many people or follow the sport. The OCPD and narcissistic personality is beneficial in this sport. And many have body dismorphia or eating disorders. Doesn’t mean people or bad or assholes or that everyone is. Just that this sport again just makes it attractive to those types and can even create some of the disorders. [/quote]

I don’t know, I think with any sport you will find people with “issues”. Maybe it is true, I haven’t really noticed it. Maybe when you look at it in a negative way that’s the way you see it. I don’t really consider those “issues” though. I don’t think the majority are narcarsistic. I just think most are obsessed with progression. Just like any other sport. Body dysmorphia is definitely a real thing. I think that’s what keeps some people progressing though. I’d rather have body dysmorphia than think I was fucking huge when im actually a twig. Some people just have much higher goals than others physique wise so they feel small because they know how much farther they have to go to reach their goals but to a normal person they look big. If that’s body dysmorphia then im glad i have it.
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Kinda an unhealthy way about achieving your goals but what ever works

I think the thing here, and I see it a lot too, is the abundance of “competitors” who have youtube channels, IG, FB, Twitter… and it seems their main goal each day is to update every few hours with either every mundane part of their day, or another selfie that looks exactly like the 10 that were posted the day before, or even some silly sounding, overly dramatic bit of self empowering mantra.

Now, obviously if a person is attractive, or has actual information that others find useful, they will have followers. Personally, I’ve spoken with some very accomplished and experienced competitors who have real jobs and can’t be bothered with a 24/7 social media obsession, but find the insane amount of people who have never accomplished anything in terms of the competitive side of the sport having egos inflated by their social media following just ridiculous.

I think as humans, we all enjoy a bit of attention and flattery, but I do believe there is a blurring between “I’m posting progress pics so I can get advice and support” and “praise me because I’m willing to pose in skimpy outfits under the guise of being an athlete but really my ego needs it” with some of the cases I see each day.

There are certainly plenty of female competitors that view themselves as serious athletes that have a very negative view of the wanna-bes trying to get followers, but continually (or even in their one contest) placing dead last in every show, yet always posting advice about competing.

(for the record, I have no problem looking at attractive women, but as a competitor who views the sport very seriously, I understand the negative attitudes)

S

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
I think the thing here, and I see it a lot too, is the abundance of “competitors” who have youtube channels, IG, FB, Twitter… and it seems their main goal each day is to update every few hours with either every mundane part of their day, or another selfie that looks exactly like the 10 that were posted the day before, or even some silly sounding, overly dramatic bit of self empowering mantra.

Now, obviously if a person is attractive, or has actual information that others find useful, they will have followers. Personally, I’ve spoken with some very accomplished and experienced competitors who have real jobs and can’t be bothered with a 24/7 social media obsession, but find the insane amount of people who have never accomplished anything in terms of the competitive side of the sport having egos inflated by their social media following just ridiculous.

I think as humans, we all enjoy a bit of attention and flattery, but I do believe there is a blurring between “I’m posting progress pics so I can get advice and support” and “praise me because I’m willing to pose in skimpy outfits under the guise of being an athlete but really my ego needs it” with some of the cases I see each day.

There are certainly plenty of female competitors that view themselves as serious athletes that have a very negative view of the wanna-bes trying to get followers, but continually (or even in their one contest) placing dead last in every show, yet always posting advice about competing.

(for the record, I have no problem looking at attractive women, but as a competitor who views the sport very seriously, I understand the negative attitudes)

S[/quote]

Totally agree, some people I’m friends with on social media literally post gym selfies every fucking day and then tag a shit load of people so they can praise him and boost his ego or something. It definitely gets annoying, its almost like they are searching for acceptance or they just need to be complimented to feel good. But maybe theyre just tying to motivate others? Or they are actually really insecure and need compliments daily.

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
I think the thing here, and I see it a lot too, is the abundance of “competitors” who have youtube channels, IG, FB, Twitter… and it seems their main goal each day is to update every few hours with either every mundane part of their day, or another selfie that looks exactly like the 10 that were posted the day before, or even some silly sounding, overly dramatic bit of self empowering mantra.

Now, obviously if a person is attractive, or has actual information that others find useful, they will have followers. Personally, I’ve spoken with some very accomplished and experienced competitors who have real jobs and can’t be bothered with a 24/7 social media obsession, but find the insane amount of people who have never accomplished anything in terms of the competitive side of the sport having egos inflated by their social media following just ridiculous.

I think as humans, we all enjoy a bit of attention and flattery, but I do believe there is a blurring between “I’m posting progress pics so I can get advice and support” and “praise me because I’m willing to pose in skimpy outfits under the guise of being an athlete but really my ego needs it” with some of the cases I see each day.

There are certainly plenty of female competitors that view themselves as serious athletes that have a very negative view of the wanna-bes trying to get followers, but continually (or even in their one contest) placing dead last in every show, yet always posting advice about competing.

(for the record, I have no problem looking at attractive women, but as a competitor who views the sport very seriously, I understand the negative attitudes)

S[/quote]

The self empowering mantra…

Koing

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
I am intrigued to know where is that Reed guy. He was a huge juicer and all crooked. I am pretty sure he is dead or stopped juicing (and training because of it, shrinking back to where he started) from ruining his health. I wouldnt post anything of what he wrote to discredit someone else.[/quote]

He’s doing very well. Last time he competed, a few weeks ago, was in the 198 class, and he put up some huge numbers. I don’t know what makes you think you know what his health is like. You seen his bloodwork or something? No? You’re such a joke.

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
I am intrigued to know where is that Reed guy. He was a huge juicer and all crooked. I am pretty sure he is dead or stopped juicing (and training because of it, shrinking back to where he started) from ruining his health. I wouldnt post anything of what he wrote to discredit someone else.[/quote]

He’s doing very well. Last time he competed, a few weeks ago, was in the 198 class, and he put up some huge numbers. I don’t know what makes you think you know what his health is like. You seen his bloodwork or something? No? You’re such a joke.[/quote]

I know his health. He’s healthy as a horse and stronger than ever

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
I am intrigued to know where is that Reed guy. He was a huge juicer and all crooked. I am pretty sure he is dead or stopped juicing (and training because of it, shrinking back to where he started) from ruining his health. I wouldnt post anything of what he wrote to discredit someone else.[/quote]

He’s doing very well. Last time he competed, a few weeks ago, was in the 198 class, and he put up some huge numbers. I don’t know what makes you think you know what his health is like. You seen his bloodwork or something? No? You’re such a joke.[/quote]

I know his health. He’s healthy as a horse and stronger than ever[/quote]

Reed posts PR videos all the time and is one of the stronger lifters on the site. Jasmincar posts nothing of substance, ever, and ridicules guys like Alpha and Reed. The internet is a glorious place sometimes…

Usually hate is disguised as jealousy and sometimes the person hating won’t even realize it.

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Michelle Lewin’s body is RI-DIC-U-LOUS.[/quote]

She’s a girl who could walk up to me and my gf of 5 years on the street, punch my gf in the face, grab my hand and lead me away, and i would give no protest.

I want to hate her husband for getting to sleep with her every night but i follow him on IG too cause he seems like a funny dude…and cause more Michelle is always a good thing

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
I got an instagram for the sole purpose of following as many of these bikini competitors/fitness models as possible. [/quote]

fuckin a right ^

http://instagram.com/nicole_mejia/[/quote]

Honestly doesnt do too much for me, but if you like her you would probably like Mariza Villareal.

Also, just found out like 2 days ago Mariza used to be a pornstar named Nina Mercedez. Do yourself a favor…

One of my investor friends calls this “social capital”. As opposed to financial capital (money), “social capital” is how much influence/value you have socially. I would say it is measured by the size and density of your network.

I think women intuitively understand that social capital exists. Women are taught from a young age to rely on others and value networks. It makes sense that they would value networks far more than men.

The fact that they are posting so many pics is a strategy to acquire more social capital. When you post more pictures, you create more potential for people to see your pictures and follow you. There is obviously some level of diminishing returns for this. Some of them are better at understanding this then others, but they are all attempting to maximize their potential everyday to earn more social capital.

This stuff can get pretty complex, too. These social interactions seem simple on the surface but more is occurring beneath the surface. These companies wouldn’t be worth tens of billions of dollars if this stuff was as trivial as people believe it to be. On instagram, you can see if your friends like pictures, so a lot of people learn about new people to follow from their friends likes. If all of your friends are liking the same person’s pictures, they are on some level validating that persons value to you. If they think that person is cool, then you probably need to think that person is cool too. That is very powerful. On a subconscious level, you probably now trust/value that new person’s opinion much more before you ever knew who they were, and you can’t do anything about it.

So lets say we take someone like Kim Kardashian who is the most followed person on instagram. She makes probably $20 mil a year just off of her fame which is intrinsically linked to her social capital. She had a large myspace following before she had a tv show or sex tape. She got her show because she had substantial social capital from her early myspace following which was magnified by the sex tape. Over the years, she slowly added more people to her network, increasing her social capital. She is playing a game that is invisible to most people.

or maybe they are just narcissists…

A lot of people who follow the competitive side of the sport believe that Dana Lynn Bailey was only awarded the Ms. Physique Olympia title in '13 due to her enormous social media following. Obviously this is something that wasn’t such a consideration just a few short years ago.

(IMO she does bring an excellent physique, but as total die hard fans will tell you, she wasn’t the best fit of the prescribed criteria on that day.)

Still, just take a look at the impact she’s had on amateur competitors, wanna be competitors, even never gonna compete but love saturating my IG/FB/Twitter etc feeds with duck-faced selfies every day of the week types. This is the world in 2015.

S