[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
They learned wrong. I can tell instantly if someone has been taught by a coach or not. There are very very basic movement patterns within rowing. I see personal trainers teach this wrong all the time and have told them to stop with their clients while they are on the rowing machine next to me.
Gregon can vouch for the what a difference erging with instruction can make. He video taped himself rowing and we picked through what needed to be changed and it was a significantly different movement for him.
As someone who has to maintain and fix rowing machines regularly, our club owns 40+, I cannot begin to tell you how much bad technical form can ruin one over time.
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I see your point…I have never seen a gym with 40 rower’s that is crazy
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
They learned wrong. I can tell instantly if someone has been taught by a coach or not. There are very very basic movement patterns within rowing. I see personal trainers teach this wrong all the time and have told them to stop with their clients while they are on the rowing machine next to me.
Gregon can vouch for the what a difference erging with instruction can make. He video taped himself rowing and we picked through what needed to be changed and it was a significantly different movement for him.
As someone who has to maintain and fix rowing machines regularly, our club owns 40+, I cannot begin to tell you how much bad technical form can ruin one over time.
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I see your point…I have never seen a gym with 40 rower’s that is crazy[/quote]
My gym does not have 40 ergs (rowing machines) but I do know of some that do. I coach high school rowing as well as masters rowing and we have 40+ ergs at our boathouse. As a coach it’s one of my jobs to make sure equipment runs properly hence I have to maintain all these so I tend to know what destroys them quickly. At any commercial gym I go to I always offer to maintain their machines since more often then not they’re in a state of disrepair due to people not knowing how to use them properly.
[quote]FightingScott wrote:
All the top Crossfitters have gotten strong and built all their muscle doing something else. Rob Orlando was a strongman who could axle jerk 300X10. Lipson, the strongest Crossfitter with a 635 Deadlift played semi-pro baseball before.
Grahm, the current Crossfit games champion was a college ball player. Milo, the biggest hero in Crossfit, was just a guy who liked to train sprint events in indoor rowing and do olympic lifts. He’d been training that way like 10 years before he heard of crossfit, then just decided to go and dominate everyone because his own training lended himself to beating everyone.
But I think Crossfit is evolving and is in a lot better state than it was a few years ago. People now start their workouts with a strength focus like singles in the Snatch or 5X5 Squats. Then they move on to their conditioning workouts. That sounds pretty sensible to me.
Zach Even-Esh puts it best. I VASTLY prefer the rapid popularization of Crossfit over the growth of undeniably shitty chains like Ballys, Gold’s Gym, The Rush, or Planet Fitness. Crossfit values hard training. If all these mainstream gyms go out of buisness and it’s only Crossfit gyms left, that’s fine by me.
I’m fucking sick of hearing people talk about how awesome lame shit is like Yoga, Spinning or P90X. But if I start to hear people talk about how much they like Crossfit, I’m happy. I don’t think their methods are perfect and I think the community is peppered with charlatans but I like the direction they’re headed in. [/quote]
Yea but most people who go to ballys don’t try to shit on my happy little world.
People who go to Ballys don’t tell you how much your program sucks and how much better you’d be doing what they’re doing and working out where they’re working out, even though they know shit about shit as far as lifting.
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
Gregon can vouch for the what a difference erging with instruction can make. He video taped himself rowing and we picked through what needed to be changed and it was a significantly different movement for him.
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its true. with just a few minor tweaks to my form I’m not rowing faster times while my stroke rate for a 2K has gone down from 27-28 strokes per minute to 22-23 spm.
I guess its the same as most things in life… a little instruction goes a long way.
LiquidMercury, could you link to any videos on youtube that show proper form on an erg?
I use it from time to time, the first time being when I was 18, and a guy at the university gym showed me and I remember thinking it was more difficult to use than I thought. I still don’t know if I’m doing it right.
[quote]Nards wrote: LiquidMercury, could you link to any videos on youtube that show proper form on an erg?
I use it from time to time, the first time being when I was 18, and a guy at the university gym showed me and I remember thinking it was more difficult to use than I thought. I still don’t know if I’m doing it right.[/quote]
decent instructional video
and a bad ass rowing video in general (on the water) but as you can see the motion is the same. Focusing on body control and utilizing the legs to their full capacity. Remember rowing is about 80% legs. Your upper body is just there to finish the movement and be your point of contact with the oar handle.
