Who's Heard of the P90X Fad?

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
yeah, i can see how chicks would benefit from it. it would give a chick a good athletic looking body. but i think for men its really a waste of time. if you want to just be 170 pounds w/ abs then go for it. thats not what i want though but i cant really knock someone for wanting to look that way for the same reason they cant knock how i look/want to look.

but i cant control the emasculated feeling you get weighing 170 pounds when someone 220 walks by you. all of a sudden your abs arent so hot, and thats coming from experience of being the 170 pound guy.[/quote]

I’ve been 170 lbs too and the bigger guys were my motivation to keep growing, and still are. 215 is a lot bigger than 170 but sometimes I stand next to people who make me feel like a school boy. It sucks and it makes me want to get bigger.

I have just strictly lifted. I did gain in size and strength. I have cross trained, mostly for athletics. I grew faster. Certain activities do create an anabolic synergy.

If I wasn’t so lazy, I would train myself like coaches did on the track, bleachers, with jump ropes, pulling sleds and lifting weights.

When I do plateau, I mix my routine or I just blast what ever I’m stuck on with lighter weight.

If it’s bench, I’ll do extra sets and extra reps on bench, incline, decline, shoulders and triceps and it works. The intensity and added endurance often pushes me over the edge. Crossfit would definitely provide this.

Again, crossfit alone will not make you bodybuilder big. It will elevate beginner and intermediate phsyiques alone however, and especially coupled with a more traditional weight lifting routine.

It will do the same for advanced lifters coupled with traditional training.

Forget about it being cross fit and trendy. It is cross training, pure and simple.

And anybody who denies cross training is beneficial is either trying too hard to prove a point or doesn’t know what they are talking about.

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I am 5’6" and some change, and weigh 185-190 depending on the day. Accounting for height, I think were at about the same place. Lose the superiority complex, youre not that great…215 at 5’11" is not big, especially with that sweet double chin youre rocking.

That must be a big fucking woman in that picture if you’re wearing a 2x because it looks like she could fit into it.

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[quote]Stronghold wrote:
I am 5’6" and some change, and weigh 185-190 depending on the day. Accounting for height, I think were at about the same place. Lose the superiority complex, youre not that great…215 at 5’11" is not big, especially with that sweet double chin youre rocking.

That must be a big fucking woman in that picture if you’re wearing a 2x because it looks like she could fit into it.[/quote]

There is no double chin. I’m as lean there as in my profile.

I do see what you are seeing though and am not sure what it is.

And again, I am not a pro. I don’t claim to be. If you are going to call me out be bigger. I am 215 at 10% bf and yes 5’11".

No superiority complex here. I have no problem respecting bigger guys than me in regards to progress and achievement.

I gave my opinions like everyone else in the SAMA threads. If you don’t like them eat a dick.

And I am bigger than you, get over it. You are the one trying to call me out lil man.

RRJC and others like him bashing training systems are weak. If you don’t like my take on it, eat another dick.

Yes, the girl is big. So are her sister and brother, who was taking the picture.

The guy with me, the Big 12 collegiate shot putter, is about 6’3" and 270 if you are making comparisons.

The girl doesn’t look all that small compared to him either. Not as small as an average sized girl anyways.

Hell you would look like a skinny midget in that picture. You’d probably come up to her chin, if that high.

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any two things that coincide must have a direct correlation to each other?

Split look what you’ve done!
this thread started out sorta dumb but has become hilarious!

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[quote]miroku333 wrote:
any two things that coincide must have a direct correlation to each other?

Split look what you’ve done!
this thread started out sorta dumb but has become hilarious![/quote]

With your coffee note are you suggesting weighted dips, chin ups, deadlifts, olympic lifts and push ups are not effective strength and muscle builders?

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[quote]McG78 wrote:
P90x gets a bad rap because it is on TV. Actually, it is a pretty solid program.

It has classic bodyweight exercises like standard push-ups, hindu pushups, pike presses (you can sub hand stand presses), plyo-pushes (feet and hands leave the ground), chin-ups, wide pull-ups, and corn-cob pull-ups. Throw on weight vest (or a backpack with books in it) and you can make these pretty damn challenging when you consider in a typical routine you might do 300 push-up variations and 300 pull-up variations.

On the arms day, you use dumbells for things like hammer curls, curls, preacher curls, shoulder flys, and tricep extensions.

Legs revolve mostly around one legged actions like one-legged deadlifts and one-legged wall squats. You can add a weight vest to these to toughen them up. Also you use dumbells for lunges and calf raises.

All this coupled with plyometrics, yoga, and other forms of cardio, you get a pretty good workout. Is it going to give you a bodybuilder’s body? Probably not. Is it going to put on some muscle and take off some fat, definitely. If you increase the weight on the dumbells you can get some pretty get arms though.

Most P90xers don’t have a great chest because of the lack of resistence, but everything else is pretty good.

Here is a link to one of the guys from the message board. Pretty good transformation if you ask me.

forums.teambeachbody.com/groupee/forums?
a=tpc&f=17410191&m=7911028911

Check out the seventh picture.
[/quote]

Clearly that is fake! And he isn’t as big as Jay Cutler! And he started with some muscle so all that you see was actually build elsewhere!

Lifting weights doesn’t work if you do it in a program called crossfit or P90X!

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[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
miroku333 wrote:
any two things that coincide must have a direct correlation to each other?

Split look what you’ve done!
this thread started out sorta dumb but has become hilarious!

With your coffee note are you suggesting weighted dips, chin ups, deadlifts, olympic lifts and push ups are not effective strength and muscle builders?[/quote]

hahaha.
yes that is exactly what I was trying to imply!
you never cease to amuse…

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[quote]miroku333 wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
miroku333 wrote:
any two things that coincide must have a direct correlation to each other?

Split look what you’ve done!
this thread started out sorta dumb but has become hilarious!

With your coffee note are you suggesting weighted dips, chin ups, deadlifts, olympic lifts and push ups are not effective strength and muscle builders?

hahaha.
yes that is exactly what I was trying to imply!
you never cease to amuse…
[/quote]

I’m glad I can be entertaining for you.

But if you are dogging P90X and Crossfit too by referencing causation and correlation to show muscular crossfitters or P90 participants are bunk for crediting crossfit and P90, you should remember both utilize strength building activities at the core of the philosophies. ANd that being 165 lbs and skinnier than a school girl doesn’t leave much room for criticism on RRJC’s or most posters part.

And if not, I completely misread your post.

And androgynous women still are not sexy.

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[quote]FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
McG78 wrote:
P90x gets a bad rap because it is on TV. Actually, it is a pretty solid program.

It has classic bodyweight exercises like standard push-ups, hindu pushups, pike presses (you can sub hand stand presses), plyo-pushes (feet and hands leave the ground), chin-ups, wide pull-ups, and corn-cob pull-ups. Throw on weight vest (or a backpack with books in it) and you can make these pretty damn challenging when you consider in a typical routine you might do 300 push-up variations and 300 pull-up variations.

On the arms day, you use dumbells for things like hammer curls, curls, preacher curls, shoulder flys, and tricep extensions.

Legs revolve mostly around one legged actions like one-legged deadlifts and one-legged wall squats. You can add a weight vest to these to toughen them up. Also you use dumbells for lunges and calf raises.

All this coupled with plyometrics, yoga, and other forms of cardio, you get a pretty good workout. Is it going to give you a bodybuilder’s body? Probably not. Is it going to put on some muscle and take off some fat, definitely. If you increase the weight on the dumbells you can get some pretty get arms though.

Most P90xers don’t have a great chest because of the lack of resistence, but everything else is pretty good.

Here is a link to one of the guys from the message board. Pretty good transformation if you ask me.

forums.teambeachbody.com/groupee/forums?
a=tpc&f=17410191&m=7911028911

Check out the seventh picture.

Clearly that is fake! And he isn’t as big as Jay Cutler! And he started with some muscle so all that you see was actually build elsewhere!

Lifting weights doesn’t work if you do it in a program called crossfit or P90X!

[/quote]

I see you sarcasm. It amazes me people actually think this way though. The guy in the picture is not huge only about 220. But I think most people would agree (except for his chest) he has a damn good physique.

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[quote]50_Caliber wrote:
It’s nothing compared to my program Towel-X where you get a towel and do chins and deadlifts with it.

Just send $199.95 to my paypal account for details.

Kit will include towel and a spreadsheet printout of the excercises.

For $99.95 extra I’ll throw in a program for incorporating a snuggie into your workouts.[/quote]

Your system is good and all, but for those who want to take their fitness to a new level should purchase my ShamWow-X program for only 3 easy payments of $33. It’s basically the same as your program, just with a towel substitute that has much higher absorbency. Plus, once you’ve built up a good sweat, you can towel off with the ShamWow, wring it out, and use it to dry off after your shower. Ring it out again and you can use it to wash your car. It’s so good, you’ll probably end up throwing away your other towels and never buy paper towels again. Since you probably already use $100 of paper towels each year, my ShamWow-X program will actually make you money while you work out.

DB

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[quote]McG78 wrote:
FormerlyTexasGuy wrote:
McG78 wrote:
P90x gets a bad rap because it is on TV. Actually, it is a pretty solid program.

It has classic bodyweight exercises like standard push-ups, hindu pushups, pike presses (you can sub hand stand presses), plyo-pushes (feet and hands leave the ground), chin-ups, wide pull-ups, and corn-cob pull-ups. Throw on weight vest (or a backpack with books in it) and you can make these pretty damn challenging when you consider in a typical routine you might do 300 push-up variations and 300 pull-up variations.

On the arms day, you use dumbells for things like hammer curls, curls, preacher curls, shoulder flys, and tricep extensions.

Legs revolve mostly around one legged actions like one-legged deadlifts and one-legged wall squats. You can add a weight vest to these to toughen them up. Also you use dumbells for lunges and calf raises.

All this coupled with plyometrics, yoga, and other forms of cardio, you get a pretty good workout. Is it going to give you a bodybuilder’s body? Probably not. Is it going to put on some muscle and take off some fat, definitely. If you increase the weight on the dumbells you can get some pretty get arms though.

Most P90xers don’t have a great chest because of the lack of resistence, but everything else is pretty good.

Here is a link to one of the guys from the message board. Pretty good transformation if you ask me.

forums.teambeachbody.com/groupee/forums?
a=tpc&f=17410191&m=7911028911

Check out the seventh picture.

Clearly that is fake! And he isn’t as big as Jay Cutler! And he started with some muscle so all that you see was actually build elsewhere!

Lifting weights doesn’t work if you do it in a program called crossfit or P90X!

I see you sarcasm. It amazes me people actually think this way though. The guy in the picture is not huge only about 220. But I think most people would agree (except for his chest) he has a damn good physique.[/quote]

Not if they realized he obtained it through P90X however. At least not in this thread rife with group think from a bunch of much smaller, less impressive physical specimens.

Tell them it was years of lifting and supplementation though, and while they may recommend some chest building lifts, most people would absolutely recognize his physique as a good one. THen they would go spend money on what ever supplements you told them he used.

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[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
50_Caliber wrote:
It’s nothing compared to my program Towel-X where you get a towel and do chins and deadlifts with it.

Just send $199.95 to my paypal account for details.

Kit will include towel and a spreadsheet printout of the excercises.

For $99.95 extra I’ll throw in a program for incorporating a snuggie into your workouts.

Your system is good and all, but for those who want to take their fitness to a new level should purchase my ShamWow-X program for only 3 easy payments of $33. It’s basically the same as your program, just with a towel substitute that has much higher absorbency. Plus, once you’ve built up a good sweat, you can towel off with the ShamWow, wring it out, and use it to dry off after your shower. Ring it out again and you can use it to wash your car. It’s so good, you’ll probably end up throwing away your other towels and never buy paper towels again. Since you probably already use $100 of paper towels each year, my ShamWow-X program will actually make you money while you work out.

DB[/quote]

You’ll say wow everytime.