Not sure, but I wonder if he was paid based on how much weight he put on for his ‘before’ pic (similar to Casey Viator when he was regaining muscle during Authur Jones’ Colorado Experiment).
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Freaky_Frankie wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Freaky_Frankie wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I really don’t understand why people find it hard to believe he got that heavy. That’s pretty much “average” body fat for most people with a ton of muscle underneath. You can even see the outline of his abs…which means he isn’t much heavier than many of us have been when carrying more body fat and bulking up. He just looks different because most aren’t used to seeing him that way.
Have him eat before the picture is taken and that’s what you get.[/quote]
Holly fucking shit!!! I can’t believe that’s actually Lee Priest.
Prof X, how long did it take Lee to lose all that fat?[/quote]
Apparently about 4 months.[/quote]
Wow, that’s sick. Personally, since every pound I’m downing is costing me a lot of sweat, blood and chalk, I would do everything in my power not to blow up again. But then again, he’s a pro and had a method behind the apparent madness.[/quote]
It’s all about how easy it is to lose it. I don’t plan to gain as much fat as I had on me ever again…but I also know it didn’t take insane measures for me to get my waist down.
I am sure thyroid hormone, gh and genetics are one way he did it so effortlessly.[/quote]
And a pretty badass diet I can imagine.
Too bad his genetics didn’t give him more height. He looks spectacular, seems unfair to me that he didn’t do better against the other big guys.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]Shontayne wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Shontayne wrote:
This shit is getting old.
Why does this thread even exist on a bodybuilding site?[/quote]
It is going to keep happening until some of you respond to it. I’m not going to stop posting here just because they plan to do this for just about any statement I make.
Right now, this thread is still here because, hey, unless some of you change it, every discussion will end up like this.
This COULD have been a real discussion…you know, like what we used to do back when topics were worth reading because they didn’t all de-evolve into this crap.[/quote]
So you “LOLing @” a guy with a low post count who made a valid, albeit exaggerated, point is NOT contributing to the de-evolution of the site. But those that call you on your bullshit ARE de-evolving the site?
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Don’t see anything wrong with Prof X’s initial post. All he has done is disagree with a post - this is how discussions start and we can all learn something. The problem came when instead of discussing their side people made personal attacks. These comments are the ones I refer to as getting old.
If you have personal shit you want to argue take it to PMs so the rest of us don’t have to read this shit.
If either party wants to discuss my post please feel free to PM me :). Otherwise lets talk about crocodile dundee!
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If you dont see anything wrong, that’s fine. It’s your opinion.
And I have mine.
No one is forcing you to read anything.
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Holy crap let it go.[/quote]
Was this post necessary?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Matthaeus wrote:
There is no benefit in getting that out of shape.
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x2 I think it all comes down to what was mentioned earlier. Lee Priest liked to eat.[/quote]
Not just that…but during that time, we are talking about a guy who stood out so much that the only reason he didn’t do way better is because of his height.
Obviously his way was working…so why change what works?[/quote]
I wasn’t saying he made a mistake. Gaining some fat is practically implied when bulking or trying to make considerable gains. As far the quote goes, I was merely agreeing that in most cases you don’t need to gain a lot of fat to build muscle. That is all. Lee is not VERY fat and still solid. I guess I would’ve done better to state my point separately rather than quote … ah well. Semantics be damned.
The only reason he got that fat was for some before and after photos and because he liked to eat junk food in the off season. There is definitely no special bodybuilding related benefit to being that fat. If there was this would have been and still be the norm not an extreme outlier. The only benefit of getting that fat is you get to eat all your favorite non healthy foods, and the only reason he doesn’t look like a fat sedentary slob in that pic is because of the preposterous amounts of muscle he has.
I don’t even know why these same few pics always get posted when talking about him in the off season like it’s his normal look when it was a one time thing for a before and after shot promoting a product. Look at any other pics or videos from him before or after his career and you won’t find any where he looks close to this fat.
[quote]Matthaeus wrote:
The only reason he got that fat was for some before and after photos and because he liked to eat junk food in the off season. There is definitely no special bodybuilding related benefit to being that fat. If there was this would have been and still be the norm not an extreme outlier. The only benefit of getting that fat is you get to eat all your favorite non healthy foods, and the only reason he doesn’t look like a fat sedentary slob in that pic is because of the preposterous amounts of muscle he has.
I don’t even know why these same few pics always get posted when talking about him in the off season like it’s his normal look when it was a one time thing for a before and after shot promoting a product. Look at any other pics or videos from him before or after his career and you won’t find any where he looks close to this fat.[/quote]
Dude, it wasn’t a one time thing. He did this EVERY YEAR. He didn’t start staying leaner until he started getting tattoos.
Not only that, but I seriously doubt most of these guys are racing to post pictures of themselves when at their most out of shape.
He didn’t even keep this a secret. He loved talking about how he didn’t see the point of staying near contest shape as long as he looked good on stage.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Not sure, but I wonder if he was paid based on how much weight he put on for his ‘before’ pic (similar to Casey Viator when he was regaining muscle during Authur Jones’ Colorado Experiment).
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That Colorado experiment became famous due to muscle memory.
I am sure they just told him to bulk up. If he hit over 270lbs in the off season, then he definitely was heavier than that a few times.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Matthaeus wrote:
The only reason he got that fat was for some before and after photos and because he liked to eat junk food in the off season. There is definitely no special bodybuilding related benefit to being that fat. If there was this would have been and still be the norm not an extreme outlier. The only benefit of getting that fat is you get to eat all your favorite non healthy foods, and the only reason he doesn’t look like a fat sedentary slob in that pic is because of the preposterous amounts of muscle he has.
I don’t even know why these same few pics always get posted when talking about him in the off season like it’s his normal look when it was a one time thing for a before and after shot promoting a product. Look at any other pics or videos from him before or after his career and you won’t find any where he looks close to this fat.[/quote]
Dude, it wasn’t a one time thing. He did this EVERY YEAR. He didn’t start staying leaner until he started getting tattoos.
Not only that, but I seriously doubt most of these guys are racing to post pictures of themselves when at their most out of shape.
He didn’t even keep this a secret. He loved talking about how he didn’t see the point of staying near contest shape as long as he looked good on stage.[/quote]
In what bizarre world are we living in which those two pictures of Lee are equivalent to KFC Lee? I guess the same one where KFC Lee has abs. No offense, Shontayne, I’ve got plenty of respect for you, brah.
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
In what bizarre world are we living in which those two pictures of Lee are equivalent to KFC Lee? I guess the same one where KFC Lee has abs. No offense, Shontayne, I’ve got plenty of respect for you, brah. [/quote]
Lol, agreed they aren’t and weren’t intended as that. Just thought the video was entertaining and wanted to post another off season pic up for reference.
EDIT: Also, (aimed at OP) who would not want those arms!!!
[quote]Shontayne wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
In what bizarre world are we living in which those two pictures of Lee are equivalent to KFC Lee? I guess the same one where KFC Lee has abs. No offense, Shontayne, I’ve got plenty of respect for you, brah. [/quote]
Lol, agreed they aren’t and weren’t intended as that. Just thought the video was entertaining and wanted to post another off season pic up for reference.
EDIT: Also, (aimed at OP) who would not want those arms!!![/quote]
LOL. I am sure he didn’t shoot for the same level of body fat every off season. He just liked being big and usually bulked up every year. That is all that is being said.
Also, he isn’t 270lbs in any picture posted yet…and he wrote that he hit above that weight often in the off season…so assuming he was usually leaner than this might be a mistake. These guys weren’t exactly shooting from “5-15lbs” over contest weight.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Not just that…but during that time, we are talking about a guy who stood out so much that the only reason he didn’t do way better is because of his height.
Obviously his way was working…so why change what works?[/quote]
Sure he looked good ON STAGE, but I’m sure that his heart issue had to do with him getting so fat.
Also, I don’t believe his dosages for a second. IMO he’s trying to make himself seem impressive by needing less drugs than “regular humans”.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, he isn’t 270lbs in any picture posted yet…and he wrote that he hit above that weight often in the off season…so assuming he was usually leaner than this might be a mistake. These guys weren’t exactly shooting from “5-15lbs” over contest weight.[/quote]
It’s amazing that youre still on about this. Where it was explicitly stated that staying lean is the NEW norm.
You really are dense. And Im not talking about your muscularity. Ive never seen someone so afraid of admitting that he doesn’t know everything about everything.
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Not just that…but during that time, we are talking about a guy who stood out so much that the only reason he didn’t do way better is because of his height.
Obviously his way was working…so why change what works?[/quote]
Sure he looked good ON STAGE, but I’m sure that his heart issue had to do with him getting so fat.
Also, I don’t believe his dosages for a second. IMO he’s trying to make himself seem impressive by needing less drugs than “regular humans”.[/quote]
Yeah, I think I mentioned that already. A guy that short weighing over 270lbs is a risk in itself whether it is all fat or muscle.
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Not just that…but during that time, we are talking about a guy who stood out so much that the only reason he didn’t do way better is because of his height.
Obviously his way was working…so why change what works?[/quote]
Sure he looked good ON STAGE, but I’m sure that his heart issue had to do with him getting so fat.
Also, I don’t believe his dosages for a second. IMO he’s trying to make himself seem impressive by needing less drugs than “regular humans”.[/quote]
Considering his height and that fact that he never weighed more than 220 on stage, I think it’s very possible that he used <2g/wk. I obviously have no idea whether he’s lying or not but the fact that some guys he was competing against weighed almost 50 pounds more is relevant to your perception, I think.
All Mr O competitors have elite genetics (for max size and drug tolerance). Not all of them have freak genetics. If you look at priest when he was young it’s not hard to believe that he was one of the freaks.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, he isn’t 270lbs in any picture posted yet…and he wrote that he hit above that weight often in the off season…so assuming he was usually leaner than this might be a mistake. These guys weren’t exactly shooting from “5-15lbs” over contest weight.[/quote]
It’s amazing that youre still on about this. Where it was explicitly stated that staying lean is the NEW norm.
You really are dense. And Im not talking about your muscularity. Ive never seen someone so afraid of admitting that he doesn’t know everything about everything. [/quote]
Dude, several people have responded now of being tired of this. The one thing I’m NOT is dense.
This thread was about LEE PRIEST. What the fuck are any of you going on about?
Let’s see, I just got called out for posting a picture that is right on topic and now you keep talking about what everyone on stage today is doing.
How about you stay on the fucking topic or go the fuck away?
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Considering his height and that fact that he never weighed more than 220 on stage, I think it’s very possible that he used <2g/wk. I obviously have no idea whether he’s lying or not but the fact that some guys he was competing against weighed almost 50 pounds more is relevant to your perception, I think.
All Mr O competitors have elite genetics (for max size and drug tolerance). Not all of them have freak genetics. If you look at priest when he was young it’s not hard to believe that he was one of the freaks. [/quote]
2g a week or so I would believe, especially since he came of age in the time of GH & insulin…Brad Davis, a top amateur, disclosed his cycle and it was about that much, and they are fairly comparable in height and weight.
I can’t find the interview, but I remember reading a comically low figure about what Lee claimed to take–like 400mg deca and 20mg of winstrol.
I have sat next to Lee Priest at a Buffet at the Lake of The Torches casino when he and his wife at the time were there for his guest posing. He was unbelievably fat… He didn’t care, he went onstage in his trunks and looked like the Michelin man… But he couldn’t move his arms in a bicep pose past 90 degrees because his biceps hit his forearms. He ate like 5 plates of food and his wife at the time was bigger than most dudes. He is 5’4" and was easily in the upper 200s could have been closing on 300. He didn’t always stay within the 5-15lb weight range off season.