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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
they are hiding guilt behind pointed fingers. Most white people have to override a learned but ingrained dislike for blacks. It’s like the first reaction is “that guy is black” and then “but he carries himself well and his pants fit, he could be ok I will him a chance.” This sentiment is fading with each new generation though. For what its worth, as unfair as it is, whites form their stereotypes bases on what they see and hear on the radio and tv for the most part. And the images put forth aren’t stellar. People who mingle know better but we definitely have white and black neighborhoods, churches et cetera and on both sides the other is the bogeyman. You are correct.
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Fuck that, to say that “Most white people have to overcome their dislike of blacks” is stereotyping in the worst of ways and it’s utter bullshit, and fucking offensive to people like me who have never thought like that and know plenty of people that have never thought like that.
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Agreed. I grew up the minority in a black and Mexican suburb in Dallas and never once had to overcome any racial issues - even when I was a ‘honkey’ or ‘Elvis’. My parents didn’t raise a moron and I realised, as soon as I was old enough to make friends, that dickheads come in all shapes and colours.
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Yeah?
I realized early on that I am an arrogant prick and that I could not afford to discriminate based on race, gender or sexual orientation if I wanted to discriminate based on intelligence, character and the existence of some sort of moral backbone.
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Because I realised early on that a person who dislikes people who judge others by their skin colour and not by their individual character and merit is CLEARLY an arrogant prick?
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No really.
He could be just lazy, or as dumb a box of rocks and not being able to discriminate based on something other than the entirely obvious…[/quote]
Ahhh so there isn’t a difference between discriminating against a behaviour as opposed to a colour. I mean, all racists aren’t racists eh?
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First, What !?!
Second, since the question is out there for whatever reason, no, in some important aspects there is not.
Its all about feeling superior to make yourself feel better, it is just that racism is such a pathetic way of doing it.
If I look at the average skinhead for example, race is literally the only think they could use to make themselves feel superior to someone. [/quote]
The question is out there for a very good reason as the tone of your posts suggest that discriminating against racism is no more morally correct than discriminating against colour, which is ludicrous.
When someone tells me they are a racist they are telling me that have made the choice to judge other people by their pigmentation, something they are not in control of. The only real common factor these people all share is literally that - their colour.
Racists however ‘choose’ to share a common behaviour. You could argue many were born into it by parental/community pressure and don’t know any better but, I’m sorry, at some point in your life you have to take responsibility for your own behaviour.
Am I an arrogant prick for believing people should be judged by their individual merits instead of racial stereotypes? Fine. I’ll gladly be an arrogant prick. But does it make me feel superior? Don’t be ridiculous. I can assure you I would much rather live in a world where race wasn’t an issue, but that will apparently never happen, at least in my lifetime.
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You be strange and have obviously taken the “How to be easily offended by thinking every off hand remark is about me, me, me 101” course and graduated with flying colors.
I dont care about the moral side of this, shitheads are shitheads, end of story.
What I do care about is the psychological mechanisms at play, and you are displaying them right now.
Do you feel superior to racists?
Do you think that on a psychological level this is fundamentally different than them feeling superior to other races?
In the end you are a herd animal with a strong wish to be somewhat high on the totem pole, with the fact that your ideal self is meant to be definitely not racist, because not being racist is “better” than being racist .
The fact that todays racists are pathetic, for the most part, also does at least allow for the speculation that you try to boost your self worth by kicking those perceived by you to be lower on the totem pole.
To sum it up, mores schmores, in the end you have the same mind and mental mechanisms as any racist and you express those sentiments similarly. While your way of doing it might be a tad more socially acceptable you gotta realize that the universe does not care, the human mind is what it is.
