Testanabol - would you advocate the use of Metformin with Dianabol?
I have read a few things about it being toxic - i am not sure quite how much though.
Brook
Oh and one more thing.
Milk.
Liquid calories with a huge insulin response is not good for leaning out.
I love milk, and its a bulking staple, but when you cut or recomp, you should be dropping milk almost entirely.
Makes a huge difference in how “soft” you are.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
Oh and one more thing.
Milk.
Liquid calories with a huge insulin response is not good for leaning out.
I love milk, and its a bulking staple, but when you cut or recomp, you should be dropping milk almost entirely.
Makes a huge difference in how “soft” you are.[/quote]
Yip, I’ve calc’d out his one gallon staple and it ain’t pretty by my standards. Shit ton of protein though.
[quote]testanabol wrote:
not wanting to be advocating the use of more drugs here, but if insulin sensitivity is a problem, one could always consider the use of metformin.
If your eating at wendys everynight, which from my knowledge of the USA is similar to Mcdonalds?
If you can get grilled chicken burger (no breadcrumbs) take those and sling the bread then chew up some peanut butter or go double cheeseburgers and sling the bread.
Protein and Fat meals woolah!!!
And an equal amount of salt lol[/quote]
rofl so obvious, yet I never even considered ditching the bun.
Yup Westclock and GB you are right I drop milk in the summer. Typical diet when I return home is as follows:
Meal 1: 2 cups Oatmeal 3 whole eggs 3 egg whites
meal 2: 1 lb ground beef+ bowl of plain spinach leaves
Pre workout: chicken breast +1 cup brown rice
Post workout: Whey+carb shake
Meal 5: chicken breast +1 cup brown rice
Meal 6: 2 cans tuna +1 small red potato + 1 cup brocolli mixed together w/ low fat horseradish
Meal 7: 6 whole eggs +cup brocolli
Meal 8: casein shake in water +handful of peanuts
Then bedtime
Only beverage used is either tea or water.
Does that look alright for recomp or too many carbs? I’ve used diets similar to this in the past and I lost 3 inches on my waist over the course of 3 months while still gaining muscle. If you see any improvements I could make lemme know.
Edit: I think might need to make it 2 chicken breast instead of just 1 though…
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Yup Westclock and GB you are right I drop milk in the summer. Typical diet when I return home is as follows:
Meal 1: 2 cups Oatmeal 3 whole eggs 3 egg whites
meal 2: 1 lb ground beef+ bowl of plain spinach leaves
Pre workout: chicken breast +1 cup brown rice
Post workout: Whey+carb shake
Meal 5: chicken breast +1 cup brown rice
Meal 6: 2 cans tuna +1 small red potato + 1 cup brocolli mixed together w/ low fat horseradish
Meal 7: 6 whole eggs +cup brocolli
Meal 8: casein shake in water +handful of peanuts
Then bedtime
Only beverage used is either tea or water.
Does that look alright for recomp or too many carbs? I’ve used diets similar to this in the past and I lost 3 inches on my waist over the course of 3 months while still gaining muscle. If you see any improvements I could make lemme know.[/quote]
What works for me is to have 3 lows and 1 high and so on and so forth. On my low carb days I mainly have carbs in the morning and post workout. I basically add 2-4 cups of mixed frozen veggies (you can buy a big ass bag at Costco for $6.38) which I attempt at stir frying with some coconut oil to every meal. It never really tastes good but at least I tried. I either take some precapped ECA or if I’m feeling brave and can afford to kick my protein intake towards the 3-4g/lb I’ll run the big bad ass himself: clenbuterol. I think as long as your dedicated to getting your cardio in you should be fine.
What kind of cardio, how much, and how often do you plan on doing?
Also, your proposed diet seems small to me for a person of your size. What are you estimating your calories to be at?
[quote]DOHCrazy wrote:
What kind of cardio, how much, and how often do you plan on doing?[/quote]
I used to do fasted cardio 3 times a week in the morning and then steady state after lifting for 20 mins 2-3 times a week. I used to jog in the neighborhood for fasted cardio but I lost too much weight too quick, so I will just stick with steady state 3 times a week after lifting.
Along with a ECA stack that’s plenty to get to 10% or a little below. I’m not interested in getting into contest shape so I won’t do a whole lot of cardio.
GB: did you have all your macros/calories planned out when you did the carb cycling approach? I never really know how many I need to lose fat or gain muscle, I just follow the mirror.
Is the fasted cardio 3 days a week on lifting days or on non-lifting days?
I am also not interested in getting into contest shape, but I know next spring I will need to lean out.
How much does your cardio change on and off cycle?
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
GB: did you have all your macros/calories planned out when you did the carb cycling approach? I never really know how many I need to lose fat or gain muscle, I just follow the mirror.[/quote]
Initially yes, but after a while I started eyeballing it and following the mirror. Low carb days I’m in the ballpark of 100-120g of carbs. High carb I’m in the 400-500g (WHOA NOW! That’s a whole lot personally) range . Fucking Gerdy will probably top 1000g one day. I just make sure I keep my good fats and protein high though. I’ll loose the barn rather quickly if I don’t.
[quote]DOHCrazy wrote:
Is the fasted cardio 3 days a week on lifting days or on non-lifting days?
I am also not interested in getting into contest shape, but I know next spring I will need to lean out.
How much does your cardio change on and off cycle?[/quote]
Well I lift everyday, so cardio was always done on a lifting day. The fasted days I made sure were on days I wasn’t squatting, BPing, or deadlifting though.
I can’t do cardio on cycle lol. Test gives me such ridiculous pump that even walking up a flight of stairs nearly cripples me from the extreme calf pump. So any cardio I do is is done when I’m not on AAS.
My carbs stay pretty high as well even when cutting, low carb doesn’t seem to help me as much fat loss wise, and high carb makes me feel better/stronger
2 cups brown a day same as you.
But I do a couple slices of whole wheat bread and a banana for the morn carbs instead of 2 cups oats.
Carbs might be a little high, but if you incorporate heavier cardio its a good intake.
Also, you weigh more than me, so your carbs could be near perfect for you.
Insulin sensitivity and all that plays heavily into carb tolerance, adjust as necessary.
[quote]DOHCrazy wrote:
Also, your proposed diet seems small to me for a person of your size. What are you estimating your calories to be at?[/quote]
Yah I was ~240 last time I “dieted” like this. I will probably end up throwing in another pound of ground beef somewhere, or possibly add more chicken or eggs.
Well I have to say I like this plan, getting excited about being able to eat clean. I also wish I could put my AAS order in lol. Well hopefully in 1 to 1 1/2 years with 2-3 more cycles under my belt and food like this I can be NPC ready, let’s hope so.