Some real idiots in this thread…
[quote]anonym wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
Did you learn the term “bro-science” from your new friends? Your small, weak and stupid ass will fit in perfect over there. More concerned with what a lab report says then time under the iron and actually fucking progress made.
I joined that site and have been taking a peek around… seems like there is some good info here and there, but the use of “bro-isms” is seriously out of control.[/quote]
Yeah. I had been reading it for awhile before all that bullshit started. If I’m gonna wade through 6 feet of bullshit to get to 3 inches of quality training information I’d rather do it with the posters here. At least there is less tip touching here.
Plus, people that close their mind are pretty much ignorant.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Not sure how what I said makes me a moron?[/quote]
Because that is two posts now bitching and moaning about another poster, rather than giving OP advice. It is a waste of bandwidth. Shit like this is why so few accomplished people post here anymore.
I know you are all super hardcorez, but this is fucking BODYBUILDING. Where machines play a large part in building elite level muscle. Now if you don’t like that, or that people do that, I don’t fucking care. I especially don’t give a shit of what your opinion on the subject is.
He has an attitude? NO! He can be a dick? NO! He doesn’t play patty cake? NO!
Last I checked the “T” stood for Testosterone not fucking Estrogen. The fucking chicks on this site have more balls then the men that post in the BB section.
If you don’t like what he says or how he says it, BUT HIM ON YOUR IGNORE LIST and quit your bitching. Every other thread on this board is “whaaaaa I don’t like him, or Whhaaaaa I don’t like the way you said that.” Some of you need to take a midol and grow the fuck up.
The OP sort of had his nose in the air towards people that train for elite level muscle, like it is somehow so much easier than getting an elite level total, that he can do that while he wait to heal from surgery. I understood that wasn’t OP’s intent, but I can see how someone may have taken it that way.
This thread has gone out of control when idiots who don’t follow the context and general themes thrown around in the forums jump on someone like X for calling them on something which is quite ignorant.
The general point was the inference that intense bodybuilder training wouldn’t be the equivalent of powerlifting training consisting of 1RMs, and that this was wrong and the OP was being delusional that he could do the bodybuilding training even though powerlifting was not advised.
I personally thought the OP was being a condescending fuck, but I couldn’t be assed pointing that out. Hence the joy I get out of X, he generally doesn’t care and lets rip things I’m thinking anyway.
People want to spout their own bullshit and generally a number of guys here are just ignorant fuckers trolling for their own self-importance.
You know what, I don’t give a fuck if X lifts 450 for reps on a seated machine, a smith press, or any other fucking machine. Piles of people can’t do that, and the reality of how big an absolute difference going from a Smith/Hammer to a free weight is not worth considering when you’re up at that kind of load.
Fuck.
Oh yeah, the whole Doctor thing? Who gives a fuck.
Next.
E-dicks. Mine is bigger than Beans, he compared with me a few times and was quite sad, that’s why he’s angry in this thread.
You don’t need to be a dentist/doctor/md to realise that after hernia surgery any intense exercise is not a great idea.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
jdub85 wrote:
Charged wrote:
I hate to break it to you but DENTISTS are NOT DOCTORS, idiot.
Sounds like we have some Anti-Dentites here…
No, just ignorant.
Tip: If the guy can legally prescribe medications that require a prescription, they are a doctor.[/quote]
Physicians Assistants can also prescribe medications too 
(btw: they aren’t doctors)
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Not sure how what I said makes me a moron? If you put 4 plates on a smith and bench it that doesn’t mean you bench 4 plates. Same goes for hammer strength, or non counter balanced hydrolic piston press, or whatever X is gonna come on here claiming. I’ve got nothing against the guy personally [I’d have to know him to do that], but his act gets old. I’ve been on this site for a good while and have seen alot of people come and go. He’s stuck around and he’s still talking at people instead of with them - unless they agree with him - and people seem to eat it up.
Crew asked a simple question and the guy came in with his nose in the air and talked down to him. Didn’t answer a question, didn’t offer an observation or even post a silly irrelevant picture. He just talked shit, and he did it while bragging about fudged numbers. The guy’s strong, and obviously plenty big, but he feels the need to point it out at every available oppertunity, and when there isn’t an oppertunity he manufactures one. Seems kinda silly.[/quote]
My thoughts exactly. Well said Whiteflash, well said.
Crew
Definitely do the program! Don’t worry about possible hernias: I mean if it hasn’t happened its not real! Also everyone who posts on here is a trainer, medical professional, and all around health enthusiast. What would your doctor know? I bet you can do a deadlift right now and hit a personal records.
I mean think about it, you are rested, and you have dropped weight. I read a study that said if you are dehydrated, and well rested you can hit huge PRs. Basically I think you should do an AM, and PM workout using 2-3RM in the morning, and doing burn out sets in the evening. Followed by some running at mid day. The extra weight will help your recovery, and you will look better naked.
I also think its great that people gang up on prof x the minute they get a chance, and the best insults they have are “you a stupid weak dentist”. If anything you internet tough guys made his workout this morning even better than usual.
I am still baffled why a guy recovering, who has been told don’t lift, comes on a generally pubescent, testosterone driven website and asks advice…ASK YOUR DOCTOR. Ridiculous.
[quote]anonym wrote:
VikingsAD28 wrote:
crowbar46 wrote:
Apparently it is you sir who needs the education–PHYCHOLOGISTS can, in some states, indeed prescribe medications. I CLEARLY said: I sure as hell won’t take medical advice from a vet who, in your definition, IS a doctor!
Crowbar
In what states do they allow someone without a medical degree prescribe medication?
I don’t know what a phychologist is but a psychologist is not a medical doctor. They are often referred to as “doctor” because they may have a PHD, making them a doctor.
Psychiatrists on the other hand can prescribe medication because they have to go to medical school to be called a psychiatrist. Graduation from med school qualifies them as doctors.
Clinical psychologists are allowed to prescribe medication in two states (Louisiana and New Mexico).
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos056.htmf[/quote]
Well, I’m a clinical psychologist, in Europe though. If I or any of my colleagues would prescribe any kind of medication without a sufficient medical degree, we would be considered dealers and will be fired.
In essence (a bit simplistic though) a psychiatrist will come to a descriptive diagnose, prescribes the medication and can be involved in the further treatment. A clinical psychologist also could come to a descriptive diagnos, explores the different factors that are related to the diagnose and provides further suitable treatment accordingly.
[quote]jdub85 wrote:
Charged wrote:
I hate to break it to you but DENTISTS are NOT DOCTORS, idiot.
Sounds like we have some Anti-Dentites here…[/quote]
I lol’d
[quote]B rocK wrote:
Professor X wrote:
jdub85 wrote:
Charged wrote:
I hate to break it to you but DENTISTS are NOT DOCTORS, idiot.
Sounds like we have some Anti-Dentites here…
No, just ignorant.
Tip: If the guy can legally prescribe medications that require a prescription, they are a doctor.
Physicians Assistants can also prescribe medications too
(btw: they aren’t doctors)[/quote]
I hope you understand that a PA prescribes medications under the license of a physician, If there was some shit to come back from that script it would hit the doc. So they are basically writing these scrips on the docs behalf under his license, to make the docs life easier.
This debate is making some of you seem down right retarded. If someone’s title has the word doctor in it, than that person is a doctor. Examples for the slow people:
DDS= Doctor of Dental Surgery
PhD= Doctor of philosophy
PharmD= Doctor of pharmacology
Sinking in yet?
Also it is clear that I Bodybuilder will include Cluster reps which are similar to multiple one rep training maxes. Any program targeting the CNS will be heavy and taxing. Also if you are supposed to be avoiding the Valsalva Maneuver (exhaling against a closed glottis, or straining as in taking a shit) related to your surgery, you would likely be doing that with every rep.
Let’s try and keep this on-topic, guys.
[quote]Charged wrote:
I hate to break it to you but DENTISTS are NOT DOCTORS, idiot.[/quote]
Actually, they are. So, maybe you shouldn’t call people idiots when you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.
who ever is editing the videos for I,BB, have fun. That shit gets tiring and can piss you off at times.
I think some people are posting just to get others riled up. That is one of the problems
with forums, everyone has courage behind a keyboard.
“dentists are not doctors”
maybe in the jungles of the amazon they are not, but in the USA they certainly are.*
This post has to be a joke, I refuse to believe people are that stupid.
*no offense intended to any amazon Witch doctors practicing dentistry.
-g
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
who ever is editing the videos for I,BB, have fun. That shit gets tiring and can piss you off at times.[/quote]
Tim Patterson is actually doing that himself… the man never sleeps.
[quote]DF85 wrote:
300andabove wrote:
Powerlifter following I, BODYBUILDER…
confused
Why not use Wendlers 5/3/1 with Cephs bodybuilding template ?
Where might I find Cephs bodybuilding templat for 5/3/1 ?
Thanks[/quote]
Would like to see it too.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
who ever is editing the videos for I,BB, have fun. That shit gets tiring and can piss you off at times.
Tim Patterson is actually doing that himself… the man never sleeps.[/quote]
Really? That’s pretty cool.
I do some video editing, I know how daunting editing that many hours of footage can be.
Not a lot of actual answers for the OP on this thread so I thought I would prescribe one:
Kid, your doctor knows as much about training as I know about denistry…which is nothing.
Treat yourself as a beginner again. Like this is your first time in the gym. You’ve been in the hospital for two weeks…uh, that’s serious stuff. No heavy lifting for 6 weeks. In doctor-speak that usually means nothing over like 10-25lbs. Then when a doctor says “no powerlifting for months after that”. He doesn’t know the difference between powerlifting, bodybuilding or lifting groceries.
I’m still trying to figure out your condition since I don’t think you ever got around to telling that. You have a GI doctor and a surgeon and have been bed ridden for 2 weeks. I’d say that’s pretty serious. You have healing to do my son. I’ve seen people get hernias and rip back muscles by taking a shit.
I say nothing for 6 weeks. Nothing, just heal. Enjoy your time off. Go get drunk. Eat pizza. Write X a love letter, shit I don’t care.
Then start some bodyweight circuits: pullups, pushups, bodyweight squat, etc for 4 weeks.
Then just machine exercises for 4 weeks.
Then back to the dumbell/barbell work. That’s about 4 months post-op…I’d say pretty common for someone who just had serious surgery. Don’t underestimate the effect that surgery has on you and don’t overestimate your abilities.
If you don’t have that kind of patience then you’ll be back at the doctor’s office in 6 weeks. You’ve been warned.
I don’t have a PhD…I do have a bachelor’s degree in exercise science… and lots of common sense.
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
who ever is editing the videos for I,BB, have fun. That shit gets tiring and can piss you off at times.
Tim Patterson is actually doing that himself… the man never sleeps.
Really? That’s pretty cool.
I do some video editing, I know how daunting editing that many hours of footage can be.[/quote]
Agreed. I witnessed something like half an editing session. Each workout is filmed with 3 cameras and lasts around 45 minutes on average.