“Tip: If the guy can legally prescribe medications that require a prescription, they are a doctor.”
This is a truly nonsensical statement: I sure as hell won’t take medical advice from a vet, nor from a psychologist (who in many states can prescribe medications).
Crowbar
[quote]DF85 wrote:
300andabove wrote:
Powerlifter following I, BODYBUILDER…
confused
Why not use Wendlers 5/3/1 with Cephs bodybuilding template ?
Where might I find Cephs bodybuilding templat for 5/3/1 ?
Thanks[/quote]
In my training thread you can find a few assistance templates for 5/3/1 and even a 6-way split version which I used for a while.
The PL assistance templates I give people generally work just fine for both bbing and pling though, PL just gets a little more specific with exercise selection and perhaps a bit different with the rep ranges depending on whether the guy is lifting equipped or not, wants to stay in his weightclass or not, etc.
[quote]crowbar46 wrote:
“Tip: If the guy can legally prescribe medications that require a prescription, they are a doctor.”
This is a truly nonsensical statement: I sure as hell won’t take medical advice from a vet, nor from a psychologist (who in many states can prescribe medications).
Crowbar[/quote]
What? A vet can’t write a prescription to a human patient. I can. A psychologist does not prescribe medications. A PSYCHIATRIST does.
Get an education.
I think some people are confusing ‘doctor’ with ‘physician’.
If someone has gone to school are received a doctorate… then they are a Doctor.
[quote]MEYMZ wrote:
debraD wrote:
Give CrewPierce a break! He’s stuck in the hospital and trying to mentally plan how to undo what’s happened over the past week or so.
That’s why “I, BODYBUILDER”, in this case, could do more harm than good.[/quote]
It’s based around heavy potentiation work, isn’t it? Don’t quote me on that though.
So yeah, I’d suggest waiting/doing something else, too.
Perhaps just try some low-volume 6-way split or 5-way… No high frequency here.
Easy on recovery…
You know what? Fuck it.
I just wanted to know if the damn program was still around but apparently all people on these boards want to do anymore is inflate their own ego’s by shitting on people. No one even offered anything even remotely helpful!
If you didn’t think I would be ready for the program why not just say something like “Hey you body may not be able to take that program, so why not try X program first?”
Everyone seems to be an expert on this program here yet not a single person has seen an outline of it. Not too mention do you not think they will say it’s an extremely hard program and just to survive you will need to buy this product? It’s called marketing. But hey what do I know? Apparently nothing.
Y’all can have fun with your ego’s and total lack of helping others I’m out.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
DF85 wrote:
300andabove wrote:
Powerlifter following I, BODYBUILDER…
In my training thread you can find a few assistance templates for 5/3/1 and even a 6-way split version which I used for a while.
The PL assistance templates I give people generally work just fine for both bbing and pling though, PL just gets a little more specific with exercise selection and perhaps a bit different with the rep ranges depending on whether the guy is lifting equipped or not, wants to stay in his weightclass or not, etc.
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Thank you sir.
I could be wrong but from the video it looked to me like the I, BODYBUILDER program involves heavy partials for nervous system activation, and heavy work sets to take advantage of that. Add to that the program is suppose to require supplements because of its intensity and I would have to say that it is definitely off the radar for your rehab period. I have also been under the impression that the program is centered around very little if any machines (the op mentioned that he though machines are good for him since he was advised against deadlifts).
I am no powerlifter or doctor but I am an athlete and when I am advised against participating in my sport due to it being too draining because of an injury, I work on technique with lighter weights (without increasing the reps too much) also I would concentrate on lifts that you can do safely even if they are just assistance work. I would evaluate what you can do safely to get a training effect keeping carryover to powerlifting in mind. That is if your overall training goal is still to be a powerlifter.
[quote]Charged wrote:
Nice post crowbar, fact is, its about damage on his joints and bones, bodybuilding wouldnt have so much stress in those areas.[/quote]
Uh-oh… All depends on how you go about it… A high-frequency bb routine with fairly high volume can be the death of your tendons, particularly with bad exercise selection.
I see your point with the max effort work, but bb training just gives you a slightly different set of problems.
You can injure yourself during a deadlift max single just as well as you can when doing a 12 rep set of rack pulls…
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“It makes zero sense to use a program designed to be extremely intense if someone is instructed to avoid heavy lifting.”
Agreed–that he should not be using “I, BODYBUILDER”. However, he can add back some LBM using bodybuilding parameters (in terms of % of 1RM, reps/sets, volume, etc.) without training anywhere near as intensely as he probably ordinarily does in his powerlifting training.
On the doctor issue–that dead horse has been beaten enough. My statement stands as far as I’m concerned.
GP’s are trained on the human body as a whole in sufficient degree and detail to be entitled to call themselves doctors.
Crowbar
[quote]DF85 wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
DF85 wrote:
300andabove wrote:
Powerlifter following I, BODYBUILDER…
In my training thread you can find a few assistance templates for 5/3/1 and even a 6-way split version which I used for a while.
The PL assistance templates I give people generally work just fine for both bbing and pling though, PL just gets a little more specific with exercise selection and perhaps a bit different with the rep ranges depending on whether the guy is lifting equipped or not, wants to stay in his weightclass or not, etc.
Thank you sir.[/quote]
No problem. If you give me your lifting stats and goals, I can give you a routine based on that as well… Just ask in my training thread.
/hijack
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Charged wrote:
Nice post crowbar, fact is, its about damage on his joints and bones, bodybuilding wouldnt have so much stress in those areas.
Uh-oh… All depends on how you go about it… A high-frequency bb routine with fairly high volume can be the death of your tendons, particularly with bad exercise selection.
I see your point with the max effort work, but bb training just gives you a slightly different set of problems.
You can injure yourself during a deadlift max single just as well as you can when doing a 12 rep set of rack pulls…
[/quote]
Very true. Injuries can be found readily in both activities. Either way, I think the point has been made…if you have an injury that docs say should avoid heavy lifting, then avoid the program that is supposedly so intense that recovery could be compromised…which was the point from the beginning.
Apparently it is you sir who needs the education–PHYCHOLOGISTS can, in some states, indeed prescribe medications. I CLEARLY said: I sure as hell won’t take medical advice from a vet who, in your definition, IS a doctor!
Crowbar
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
You know what? Fuck it.
I just wanted to know if the damn program was still around but apparently all people on these boards want to do anymore is inflate their own ego’s by shitting on people. No one even offered anything even remotely helpful!
If you didn’t think I would be ready for the program why not just say something like “Hey you body may not be able to take that program, so why not try X program first?”
Everyone seems to be an expert on this program here yet not a single person has seen an outline of it. Not too mention do you not think they will say it’s an extremely hard program and just to survive you will need to buy this product? It’s called marketing. But hey what do I know? Apparently nothing.
Y’all can have fun with your ego’s and total lack of helping others I’m out.[/quote]
Hey, I tried…
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
It’s based around heavy potentiation work, isn’t it? Don’t quote me on that though.
So yeah, I’d suggest waiting/doing something else, too.
Perhaps just try some low-volume 6-way split or 5-way… No high frequency here.
Easy on recovery…
[/quote]
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
Ok…I agree with you here. Which is why I am confused because my GI doctor and surgeon said “avoid heavy deadlifts for a few months otherwise you risk a hernia” so that leaves one of the three lifts of powerlifting out for me.
So I figured OK, I’ll switch to bodybuilding for a few months using machines more and not focusing on the deadlift when some dentist tells me I’m an idiot for even asking about a bodybuilding workout.
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I’m confused. Yesterday, in your other thread discussing your medical condition, you said your doctor told you not to lift anything more than 10lbs for 6 weeks. Was that limited to deadlifts? I imagine if you’re not supposed to deadlift more than 10lbs, you’re probably not supposed to be hitting even 50% on squats and presses.
I could be wrong, seeing as how I’m not a doctor under anyone’s definition… but I have had my fair share of post-surgery orders. Let your body heal.
[quote]JN7844 wrote:
CrewPierce wrote:
Ok…I agree with you here. Which is why I am confused because my GI doctor and surgeon said “avoid heavy deadlifts for a few months otherwise you risk a hernia” so that leaves one of the three lifts of powerlifting out for me.
So I figured OK, I’ll switch to bodybuilding for a few months using machines more and not focusing on the deadlift when some dentist tells me I’m an idiot for even asking about a bodybuilding workout.
I’m confused. Yesterday, in your other thread discussing your medical condition, you said your doctor told you not to lift anything more than 10lbs for 6 weeks. Was that limited to deadlifts? I imagine if you’re not supposed to deadlift more than 10lbs, you’re probably not supposed to be hitting even 50% on squats and presses.
I could be wrong, seeing as how I’m not a doctor under anyone’s definition… but I have had my fair share of post-surgery orders. Let your body heal.[/quote]
He wants to hop on a mass gain program after the 6 week rest period.
[quote]jdub85 wrote:
Charged wrote:
I hate to break it to you but DENTISTS are NOT DOCTORS, idiot.
Sounds like we have some Anti-Dentites here…[/quote]
You anti-dentite son of a bitch!
[quote]anonym wrote:
I think some people are confusing ‘doctor’ with ‘physician’.
If someone has gone to school are received a doctorate… then they are a Doctor.[/quote]
x2
The term doctor does not only apply to individuals in the medial field. Anyone with a doctorate is a Dr. All the professors at my university are referred to as Dr.______. Whether it’s my physics professor or my microbiology professor.
But i sure wouldn’t go to a dentist for medical advice.
OP, to address your original question. I, BODYBUILDER is supposed to come out peri-September.
Why is it that Professor X comes into a thread, makes a simple comment, gets attacked by a hyper-sensitive OP and then the whole thread goes to hell?
Simple point: I, BODYBUILDER is supposed to be an intense program for advanced lifters. If you shouldn’t be lifting heavy, you probably shouldn’t be doing I, BODYBUILDER.
So did you doctors say deadlifts are out but heavy squats are OK (you said only one of three lifts are out)? That doesn’t make a lot of sense.
If there’s a doctor I’d trust with advice on lifting weights, it would be Professor X, over another doctor in any other field that does not lift weights.